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Jul 22, 2016 22:35:02   #
Morgan
 
lindajoy wrote:
Well said...Now be prepared to read "I am of no party either and just coming to the defense of the other side.."

Party?? What party,CDM?
They are one, in truth, neither moving forward with this country in mind....One just slightly more in line with fiscal responsibility first...

As you know, I quit voting "party" long ago...Now it is "they", meaning from President down, that I vote most aligned to my beliefs..I don't have a party label, I vote Country, first...

Appalled by the rhetoric of both I am extremely hopeful we are coming into a much needed shift "in the pendulum", since suggesting anything other than that is not reality...

Fatigued by mainstream media slant on everything it truly leaves us wondering what the "real mission" of our government is anymore..????

Interested in your view, please..
Well said...Now be prepared to read "I am of ... (show quote)




Right on cue and very predictable.

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Jul 22, 2016 23:20:57   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Morgan wrote:
Right on cue and very predictable.


Yes you are...You don't like getting what you give and as is your norm of course you are always only defending a position and frequently not your position....As if that excuses you..

If you said it, composed, offered it, it is your position...This thread as CDM mentioned, offered as exhibit A, obviously exhibits "intent" just to slam the other side ....

You take every opportunity to critique and criticize everyone else yet find offense when they defend against it..

People are passionate and don't appreciate being grouped together by some ridiculous label of party affiliation, and will stand for their "moral convictions" over it..Isn't that what you always reply in rhetorical justication???

And as I said earlier if this is your major concern over the serious issues before this country, it reads of pettiness...Nothing more...

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Jul 22, 2016 23:50:42   #
emarine
 
lindajoy wrote:
Yes you are...You don't like getting what you give and as is your norm of course you are always only defending a position and frequently not your position....As if that excuses you..

If you said it, composed, offered it, it is your position...This thread as CDM mentioned, offered as exhibit A, obviously exhibits "intent" just to slam the other side ....

You take every opportunity to critique and criticize everyone else yet find offense when they defend against it..

People are passionate and don't appreciate being grouped together by some ridiculous label of party affiliation, and will stand for their "moral convictions" over it..Isn't that what you always reply in rhetorical justication???

And as I said earlier if this is your major concern over the serious issues before this country, it reads of pettiness...Nothing more...
Yes you are...You don't like getting what you give... (show quote)




Interesting comments ... seems like this post has taken several directions ... the question was a simple yes or no... seems many posters chose to justify Mrs. Trumps actions rather than answer a simple question... The true answer was yes she did... I personally feel she used the phrases that needed repeating... they were all good points ... but she should have shared the credit with the First Lady to keep it honest... this is all part of the political game and good training for a potential future first lady... lets just hope that the Don passes world scrutiny a bit better....

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Jul 22, 2016 23:58:23   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
I agree with LJ.
We have a lot of long reflections and opinions on Melania's prepared speech;
Can we just keep is simple this time?
IMO It is simple:
Melania didn't write the speech. That was admitted in advance. The speech was worked on for 5 weeks; it just contained her sentiments and perspective.
IMO - Melania meant those words. That is what counts. Words are words. The heart is the heart.
We can decide on weather to believe the sincerity of the speech. I do. Her past and present backs that up.

Now applying those "copied" words to Michelle's past and her present, could be debated. Not doing it here.



lindajoy wrote:
Yes you are...You don't like getting what you give and as is your norm of course you are always only defending a position and frequently not your position....As if that excuses you..

If you said it, composed, offered it, it is your position...This thread as CDM mentioned, offered as exhibit A, obviously exhibits "intent" just to slam the other side ....

You take every opportunity to critique and criticize everyone else yet find offense when they defend against it..

People are passionate and don't appreciate being grouped together by some ridiculous label of party affiliation, and will stand for their "moral convictions" over it..Isn't that what you always reply in rhetorical justication???

And as I said earlier if this is your major concern over the serious issues before this country, it reads of pettiness...Nothing more...
Yes you are...You don't like getting what you give... (show quote)

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Jul 23, 2016 01:30:07   #
PeterS
 
Morgan wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/19/melania-trump-republican-convention-plagiarism-michelle-obama

Does Melania steal enough of the speech in part to no be accused of plagiarism? Maybe this is why the right gets accused for no original concepts, view for yourself ...and tell us what you think

Steal enough to be considered plagiarism? When you take the thoughts and words of someone else and use them as your own, without any form of accreditation to the author, you've committee plagiary. In high school plagiary will get you a zero and in College it will get you booted out. The real irony of this though is that Melania used, of all people, Michelle Obama to plagiarize. The right has demonize Michelle for 7 and a half years and Melania uses Michelle's words to sell Trump to the rest of the voters. If it wasn't so god damn funny I would say to strip Melania of her citizenship and boot her out but I am actually laughing so hard to ask for something so reasonable...

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Jul 23, 2016 01:39:51   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
emarine wrote:
Interesting comments ... seems like this post has taken several directions ... the question was a simple yes or no... seems many posters chose to justify Mrs. Trumps actions rather than answer a simple question... The true answer was yes she did... I personally feel she used the phrases that needed repeating... they were all good points ... but she should have shared the credit with the First Lady to keep it honest... this is all part of the political game and good training for a potential future first lady... lets just hope that the Don passes world scrutiny a bit better....
Interesting comments ... seems like this post has ... (show quote)


I do not think Michelle (MIKE) Obama can take credit for those lines used in her speech. It would stand to reason ANYONE years ago could have used the same or similar sentences far before (MIKE) Obama did.

And as for the topic to begin with...this is the NEWS media making it be a "crisis"...no one really cares about a damned speech when in reality everyone should care about the events world wide and what leader can come along and DO something about it! Screw MIKE Obama...and the rest of the Commie Party known as Democraps!

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Jul 23, 2016 01:44:00   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
PeterS wrote:
Steal enough to be considered plagiarism? When you take the thoughts and words of someone else and use them as your own, without any form of accreditation to the author, you've committee plagiary. In high school plagiary will get you a zero and in College it will get you booted out. The real irony of this though is that Melania used, of all people, Michelle Obama to plagiarize. The right has demonize Michelle for 7 and a half years and Melania uses Michelle's words to sell Trump to the rest of the voters. If it wasn't so god damn funny I would say to strip Melania of her citizenship and boot her out but I am actually laughing so hard to ask for something so reasonable...
Steal enough to be considered plagiarism? When you... (show quote)


Oh course..in your opinion Melania should be booted out for a mere speech...so now if THAT is so warranted,....you must be all for dropping an atomic bomb on Obama and the Clintons for THEIR crimes against the USA, right????? Or do you think just an ordinary firing squad for Hillary and the Obama's will be enough?

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Jul 23, 2016 02:01:52   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
America Only wrote:
Oh course..in your opinion Melania should be booted out for a mere speech...so now if THAT is so warranted,....you must be all for dropping an atomic bomb on Obama and the Clintons for THEIR crimes against the USA, right????? Or do you think just an ordinary firing squad for Hillary and the Obama's will be enough?


How about the fact that Melania should be booted for claiming she was a college graduate, but dropped out do this instead?



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Jul 23, 2016 09:16:01   #
Morgan
 
lindajoy wrote:
Yes you are...You don't like getting what you give and as is your norm of course you are always only defending a position and frequently not your position....As if that excuses you..

If you said it, composed, offered it, it is your position...This thread as CDM mentioned, offered as exhibit A, obviously exhibits "intent" just to slam the other side ....

You take every opportunity to critique and criticize everyone else yet find offense when they defend against it..

People are passionate and don't appreciate being grouped together by some ridiculous label of party affiliation, and will stand for their "moral convictions" over it..Isn't that what you always reply in rhetorical justication???

And as I said earlier if this is your major concern over the serious issues before this country, it reads of pettiness...Nothing more...
Yes you are...You don't like getting what you give... (show quote)




Your words are empty as you're a hypocrite in the emth degree, in your every written sentence...

1)You don't like getting what you give and as is your norm of course you are always only defending a position

It is always my position,and I've never said my point was not how I felt, how do I know this due, to the fact I wrote it, once again and very often you misconstrue what I've said, for example... I may have supported people to be unbiased against transgender or gay but I am neither, can you grasp the difference there.

2) If you said it, composed, offered it, it is your position...This thread as CDM mentioned, offered as exhibit A, obviously exhibits "intent" just to slam the other side ....

Who gives a damn, everyone does including you, the only difference is I don't get in their face about their topic or issue, I will say I do when posts are created to have a gang bang over maligning another poster. I admit I did use the opportunity with this thread to face some realizations, when we consider the negative opinions constantly outcast from the right over Michelle, including yourself, and still the incompetent excuses flow.

3) You take every opportunity to critique and criticize everyone else yet find offense when they defend against it..

You do the very same many times, when the post is in a complete contrary to your position, to say you don't would be a lie. You seem to think I don't find neutral grounds with other posters, you are very wrong. Yet there you are in judgement as we speak.

4) People are passionate and don't appreciate being grouped together by some ridiculous label of party affiliation, and will stand for their "moral convictions" over it..Isn't that what you always reply in rhetorical justication???

To try and defend oneself on opp as not being anything but right,as someone in the middle is a waste of time. For most here attacking anyone not from the right...is labeled left, and I realize I will never change their mind, so be it. So at times I will fight fire with fire, they are the lost Americans as the see other Americans as they enemy. Which to my amazement was literally spoken at the republican convention,so I am to assume this is the new position of the new deplorable republican party. Yes that's correct you heard it right. They are deplorable as they are in the process of dividing America, along with their reverberation of a revolution/civil war.

As I've stated before I am against political party's altogether, they are simply used as in religion to manipulate the masses.

5) This is my favorite, where did I ever say this was a major concern of mine? Putting words in my mouth again I see.You nor CDM or anyone else for that matter, had a choice here... to either share thoughts in this thread or not, if it is unimportant to you why are you both here? You just felt the compulsion of having to give us your opinion, well well well, that's good, that's what it was here for, but tell me again, who's being "personally" critical, attacking and not talking about the topic, except how unimportant it was...hmmm. You have a good day now, I am done with this.

PS Just love you teamwork you always employ to sabotage a thread, you are very successful at that.

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Jul 23, 2016 09:40:04   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Morgan wrote:
Your words are empty as you're a hypocrite in the emth degree, in your every written sentence...

1)You don't like getting what you give and as is your norm of course you are always only defending a position

It is always my position,and I've never said my point was not how I felt, how do I know this due, to the fact I wrote it, once again and very often you misconstrue what I've said, for example... I may have supported people to be unbiased against transgender or gay but I am neither, can you grasp the difference there.

2) If you said it, composed, offered it, it is your position...This thread as CDM mentioned, offered as exhibit A, obviously exhibits "intent" just to slam the other side ....

Who gives a damn, everyone does including you, the only difference is I don't get in their face about their topic or issue, I will say I do when posts are created to have a gang bang over maligning another poster. I admit I did use the opportunity with this thread to face some realizations, when we consider the negative opinions constantly outcast from the right over Michelle, including yourself, and still the incompetent excuses flow.

3) You take every opportunity to critique and criticize everyone else yet find offense when they defend against it..

You do the very same many times, when the post is in a complete contrary to your position, to say you don't would be a lie. You seem to think I don't find neutral grounds with other posters, you are very wrong. Yet there you are in judgement as we speak.

4) People are passionate and don't appreciate being grouped together by some ridiculous label of party affiliation, and will stand for their "moral convictions" over it..Isn't that what you always reply in rhetorical justication???

To try and defend oneself on opp as not being anything but right,as someone in the middle is a waste of time. For most here attacking anyone not from the right...is labeled left, and I realize I will never change their mind, so be it. So at times I will fight fire with fire, they are the lost Americans as the see other Americans as they enemy. Which to my amazement was literally spoken at the republican convention,so I am to assume this is the new position of the new deplorable republican party. Yes that's correct you heard it right. They are deplorable as they are in the process of dividing America, along with their reverberation of a revolution/civil war.

As I've stated before I am against political party's altogether, they are simply used as in religion to manipulate the masses.

5) This is my favorite, where did I ever say this was a major concern of mine? Putting words in my mouth again I see.You nor CDM or anyone else for that matter, had a choice here... to either share thoughts in this thread or not, if it is unimportant to you why are you both here? You just felt the compulsion of having to give us your opinion, well well well, that's good, that's what it was here for, but tell me again, who's being "personally" critical, attacking and not talking about the topic, except how unimportant it was...hmmm. You have a good day now, I am done with this.

PS Just love you teamwork you always employ to sabotage a thread, you are very successful at that.
Your words are empty as you're a hypocrite in the ... (show quote)


I could take line item exception to refute you but I'll let your written posts speak for you instead..Proof in the pudding works sooo much better..

Will however say to #5, your thread, your obvious major concern ..Otherwise why post it in comparison to all the issues before this country??

Teamwork?? Have not a clue what you're implying, nor do I care.

Your hypocrisy abounds itself..I could easily quote many of your comments..
Example with glaucon. "How foolish everyone is to start a thread against another poster"..Remember your words, to this effect, yet when it was little ball of hate, what did you do but join in????

Again, your posts, my posts and everyone else' post speak for themself..The best evidence in support of something...

One final issue aka, Morgan, you are fooling no one..

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Jul 23, 2016 10:22:00   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Right on LJ; You minimized wasting time on his BS.

"One final issue aka, Morgan, you are fooling no one."

Oh lets be honest LJ, some liberal lefties maybe? :-)

lindajoy wrote:
I could take line item exception to refute you but I'll let your written posts speak for you instead..Proof in the pudding works sooo much better..

Will however say to #5, your thread, your obvious major concern ..Otherwise why post it in comparison to all the issues before this country??

Teamwork?? Have not a clue what you're implying, nor do I care.

Your hypocrisy abounds itself..I could easily quote many of your comments..
Example with glaucon. "How foolish everyone is to start a thread against another poster"..Remember your words, to this effect, yet when it was little ball of hate, what did you do but join in????

Again, your posts, my posts and everyone else' post speak for themself..The best evidence in support of something...

One final issue aka, Morgan, you are fooling no one..
I could take line item exception to refute you but... (show quote)



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Jul 23, 2016 10:28:25   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
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Raylan Wolfe wrote:
How about the fact that Melania should be booted for claiming she was a college graduate, but dropped out do this instead?

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Jul 23, 2016 11:06:54   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Right on LJ; You minimized wasting time on his BS.

"One final issue aka, Morgan, you are fooling no one."

Oh lets be honest LJ, some liberal lefties maybe? :-)



Right on LJ; You minimized wasting time on his BS.... (show quote)


Thank you, eagle...A little more than just a lefty...Although remember, AKA, Morgan professes not to be party affiliate either...

Have a great day....

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Jul 23, 2016 11:20:50   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
lindajoy wrote:
Thank you, eagle...A little more than just a lefty...Although remember, AKA, Morgan professes not to be party affiliate either...

Have a great day....


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Jul 23, 2016 11:39:51   #
S. Maturin
 
"empth degree"... WTH is that, anyone know?


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