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Jun 12, 2016 22:02:52   #
Sicilianthing
 
son of witless wrote:
I am sorry for the victims and their families.


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Me too but apologies wont fix it, we will mobilize to fight!

Prepare and meet with family and friends, it gets messy from here.

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Jun 12, 2016 22:10:12   #
zillaorange
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Probably the same sound you'll make when someone opens up on you with an AR 15 without warning. Did you get the "without warning" part? No amount of target practice or availability of lethal rounds, can help you - if you don't see it coming. All persons who commit such acts are cowards and cowards don't warn you they're about to unleash hell, so, unless you're armed and the 30th or 40th person shot - you won't be able to do any more than an unarmed person will, which is basically to die.

If arming yourself to the teeth makes you feel safer, then I suggest you stay in your bunker, because if you come out and another idiot is bent on mass casualties - you'll be the FIRST person they shoot - and you'll die without ever knowing what happened.

Being armed only helps you AFTER the fact, if at all.
Probably the same sound you'll make when someone o... (show quote)


it's HORRIBLE !!!

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Jun 12, 2016 22:12:48   #
son of witless
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Me too but apologies wont fix it, we will mobilize to fight!

Prepare and meet with family and friends, it gets messy from here.


I agree. We are getting the same useless " stay strong " idiocy from the TV talking heads. What ever homeland security is doing, it ain't good enough.

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Jun 12, 2016 22:27:34   #
Sicilianthing
 
son of witless wrote:
I agree. We are getting the same useless " stay strong " idiocy from the TV talking heads. What ever homeland security is doing, it ain't good enough.


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It doesn't work anymore

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Jun 12, 2016 22:35:24   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
eden wrote:
You are correct in one thing. The problem is not guns per se but the ease of access to them by mentally unstable people. Radical Islam and Mental Instability are probably interchangeable terms but then so is Radical Christianity or Judaism, Hinduism or any other radical "ism". As far as the Gun Ban lobby they should just get realistic because that horse left the stable a long time ago. America is awash in guns of all types and as others have pointed out criminals and the criminally insane will always find a way to get possession. The idea of transforming America into a European state with no guns allowed and concomitantly no shootings is just wishful nonsense. The truth is people who are prone to commit violence will do it with a knife, a hatchet, a car or a home made bomb. There is probably no way to completely eliminate gun violence in America but it could be substantially reduced if all sides starting listening and acknowledging the fears of the other side. As for the idea that a "good guy" with a gun could ameliorate a mass shooting I am skeptical. Experienced enforcement agents report how difficult it is to respond with deadly force in the confusion of any kind of shooting let alone a mass shooting where there are panicked people milling around and the shooter is mingled and does not present a clear target. The idea would only have merit if there were people (volunteers) willing to undergo specialized training in this field along the lines of the original Sky Marshal program. The NRA should also be a participant in any solution instead of allowing itself to become a political mouthpiece that attracts fringe groups with extreme religious, racial and political views who promote unwarranted hysteria over gun control. The accumulation of fear spawns the rationale of mob mentality and extra judicial actions that do not solve the problem and do not make us safer.

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You are correct in one thing. The problem is not g... (show quote)


I have to say, after reading your post, that I think you are one fine example of what terrorism can do to people. You seem to be terrorized and willing to let them get by with whatever they want to do.

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Jun 12, 2016 23:07:05   #
eden
 
oldroy wrote:
I have to say, after reading your post, that I think you are one fine example of what terrorism can do to people. You seem to be terrorized and willing to let them get by with whatever they want to do.



So posting something rational and constructive projects my "terror"? I don't know whether you are ignorant or just being deliberately obtuse. Perhaps you could go back and read my post again (unlikely) or at least ponder how you extropolated a willingness on my part to let "them" get by with whatever they want to do from what I posted. Join some fossil posse if you want, join a mob and go lynch somebody who looks different to you for the cheap thrill of instant frontier justice, just pray that you do not end up on the receiving end of such summary "justice" yourself one day.
In the meantime my money is on the cooler heads who run the justice system in this country. It's far from perfect but preferable to wannabe Sherrif Trump and his mob rule.

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Jun 13, 2016 00:01:22   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
bahmer wrote:
If we started removing all of the Muslims from this country we would have to remove the first family first to set a precedence for all others which wouldn't bother me either. I would love to see them removed as well as all other Muslims from America.


Right there with you bahmer!!!!!!

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Jun 13, 2016 00:04:24   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
lpnmajor wrote:
And we heard from the local police, county sheriff and the FBI - but where the hell was the Department of HOMELAND SECURITY? Did they get confused as to WHICH homeland they were to secure maybe? We sure are spending a lot of billions of dollars on a department that has few apparent duties - and ZERO street cred for stopping this kind of shit.

What's the point of being on "the FBI's radar"? No point I guess, you just go on with your life as normal. Now, to be fair, had this idiot been a foreigner, the FBI may have acted differently, but he wasn't, he was BORN here, making him a citizen. Imagine the furor that would erupt if we outlawed contacting terrorist organizations, or made it illegal to access their online material, I mean, what about the 1st amendment and free speech and all that shit? It's only illegal to ACT on your subversive thoughts, not illegal to have them - and only YOU know when and where that will happen, well, except maybe for your friends and family perhaps. Huh, there's a possible solution; make it a first degree felony when you are aware of an impending attack and don't report it, whether you are a spouse, other family member, friend or just an acquaintance. After a few death penalty cases of "failure to warn" are concluded, these "lone wolf" type of incidents may dry up a little, because SOMEONE knew this clown was going to do this. Maybe not specific details, but they KNEW and let it happen. IMHO, that's just as criminal as pulling the trigger.
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Its a dang good idea, major~!!! One that needs serious consideration..Aiding and abetting already on the books, enforce the damn laws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jun 13, 2016 00:06:59   #
Sicilianthing
 
lindajoy wrote:
Its a dang good idea, major~!!! One that needs serious consideration..Aiding and abetting already on the books, enforce the damn laws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Obama needs to resign!

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Jun 13, 2016 00:11:11   #
PeterS
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Bring lots body bags

Move your mouth all you like. The simply fact that you have had ample opportunity to act and you NEVER do means they will only need one--for you. You are a sick puppy Sici. You are working hard to be the craziest mouth on this board....

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Jun 13, 2016 00:12:28   #
PeterS
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Obama needs to resign!


And you need to be in a mental ward. We all need something, don't we Sici.

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Jun 13, 2016 00:13:08   #
Sicilianthing
 
PeterS wrote:
Move your mouth all you like. The simply fact that you have had ample opportunity to act and you NEVER do means they will only need one--for you. You are a sick puppy Sici. You are working hard to be the craziest mouth on this board....


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The invitation is always open for you or any other Scumbag FED traitor whos feeling froggy !

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Jun 13, 2016 00:14:14   #
Sicilianthing
 
PeterS wrote:
And you need to be in a mental ward. We all need something, don't we Sici.


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Traitors like you need to be Dead too.

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Jun 13, 2016 00:19:02   #
PeterS
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Probably the same sound you'll make when someone opens up on you with an AR 15 without warning. Did you get the "without warning" part? No amount of target practice or availability of lethal rounds, can help you - if you don't see it coming. All persons who commit such acts are cowards and cowards don't warn you they're about to unleash hell, so, unless you're armed and the 30th or 40th person shot - you won't be able to do any more than an unarmed person will, which is basically to die.

If arming yourself to the teeth makes you feel safer, then I suggest you stay in your bunker, because if you come out and another idiot is bent on mass casualties - you'll be the FIRST person they shoot - and you'll die without ever knowing what happened.

Being armed only helps you AFTER the fact, if at all.
Probably the same sound you'll make when someone o... (show quote)

You forget we live in a nation of gunslingers. Everyone of them thinks they are the fastest on the draw and are dying to prove it--well other people are dying but man do they want to prove it. The only practice this guy ever had was at the club--isn't a AR15 a beautiful thing! With today's gun, if someone wants you dead you are dead and no amount of talking tough will change that...

Nice post, btw...

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Jun 13, 2016 00:20:23   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
PeterS wrote:
Yeah Linda, Muslims are the only ones who hate gays aren't they! Reading your post it sounds like you've been to too many Trump rallies...


Show me in my post where I said anything about Muslim hating gays?? I said they are the ones attacking this country Peter, From 9-11 onward, Boston, San Bernardino, now Orlando just to name a few and its damn time to STOP it...That's what I said and what I mean!!!

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