But, but, but...walls don't work! (Page 2): So you didn't like them when they were the Cleveland Browns?

LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA

the waker wrote:

Im a Ravens fan, let em burn 😉

So you didn't like them when they were the Cleveland Browns?

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Voice of Reason wrote:

According to Dem politicians and their followers, walls don't work. So, why are they building a wall around their own convention site in Philly? Apparently these hypocrites think walls only work when erected to protect Democrat politicians and their servants.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Wells-Fargo-Center-Xfinity-Live-to-Be-Inside-Perimeter-Secret-Service-Says-382433501.html

Folks would have a hard time tunneling beneath those walls - but the folks south of the border are expert tunnel makers and would be under any wall put there within days.

Voice of Reason Loc: Earth

the waker wrote:

At what point are they're actions considered "an act of terrorism"?
They're taking violent action to violate others 1st amendment right.
Not making it a topic, just saying.

I don't think that qualifies as terrorism. Terrorists target people going about their everyday lives.

The leftists at the Trump rallies are targeting people as punishment for daring to support somebody who doesn't conform to leftist PC and who expresses opinions different from leftist dogma. Criminal? Yes. Fascistic? Absolutely.

But not terrorism.

Voice of Reason Loc: Earth

lpnmajor wrote:

Folks would have a hard time tunneling beneath those walls - but the folks south of the border are expert tunnel makers and would be under any wall put there within days.

So you're saying that illegal Mexicans do the tunneling work Americans refuse to do?

According to leftist politicians, "walls don't work". They don't say, "Some walls work and some don't", they claim "walls don't work". Then they build one to protect themselves.

Kinda like how they want to take guns away from everybody but their own bodyguards. Hypocrites!

Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA

One of the first actions of a despot or Oligarchy is to take guns away from their citizens. Thomas Jefferson warned us about this.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1776, Jefferson Papers 344

the waker Loc: 11th freest nation

Voice of Reason wrote:

I don't think that qualifies as terrorism. Terrorists target people going about their everyday lives.

The leftists at the Trump rallies are targeting people as punishment for daring to support somebody who doesn't conform to leftist PC and who expresses opinions different from leftist dogma. Criminal? Yes. Fascistic? Absolutely.

But not terrorism.

True, at this point it doesn't qualify as terrorism...but if people become worried or afraid for they're lives to attend a public function due to violent behavior, it would serve the same purpose.
It's only a matter of time till something really stupid happens to or cause of one of these nut jobs.

Betta

In my view it doesnt need to be a physical wall. It can be built in one day. For each illegal that crosses our border and is detained, decrease the amount of foreign aid to that country by half million dollars.

So let's seeeee....that would mean that Mexico for instance would OWE the U.S. taxpayer mucho dinero. Also stop All money transfers to Mexico. Make it illegal and confiscate any money being transferred. Then lets see how fast el presidente de Mexico puts up his own damn wall.

Not only would the wall be free to build, the U.S. would have the funds to DEPORT illegals on buses going south of the border. That's how to build the wall and MAKE Mexico pay for it.

Voice of Reason wrote:

According to Dem politicians and their followers, walls don't work. So, why are they building a wall around their own convention site in Philly? Apparently these hypocrites think walls only work when erected to protect Democrat politicians and their servants.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Wells-Fargo-Center-Xfinity-Live-to-Be-Inside-Perimeter-Secret-Service-Says-382433501.html

PeterS

Voice of Reason wrote:

According to Dem politicians and their followers, walls don't work. So, why are they building a wall around their own convention site in Philly? Apparently these hypocrites think walls only work when erected to protect Democrat politicians and their servants.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Wells-Fargo-Center-Xfinity-Live-to-Be-Inside-Perimeter-Secret-Service-Says-382433501.html

This wall isn't 2,000 miles long and built by Mexicans for the purpose of keeping Mexicans out. Dumb and dumber are smarter than that....

jelun

Voice of Reason wrote:

According to Dem politicians and their followers, walls don't work. So, why are they building a wall around their own convention site in Philly? Apparently these hypocrites think walls only work when erected to protect Democrat politicians and their servants.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Wells-Fargo-Center-Xfinity-Live-to-Be-Inside-Perimeter-Secret-Service-Says-382433501.html

Hardly a wall, nice try...
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reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.

PaulPisces wrote:

Gimme a break!!!
There's a big difference between the effectiveness of a wall around the perimeter of a sports arena/inner city area and one that is 1,989 miles long (the size of the U.S. border with Mexico.)

Grown-ups thinking like grade-school kids....shameful.

There are many types of walls Paul . The combination of concrete , steel , electronic , human patrol and simply enforcing current laws by letting border patrol do their job .. The term Wall should not be narrowed to a physical structure only . Heck , put military training base's along our borders .. We can not simply give up ,, Good God man ! What would you suggest ??

jelun

Voice of Reason wrote:

So, according to you, exactly how long must a wall be to become ineffective?

I don't know about Paul, according to me a wall would actually have to be a wall and not a bit of diverted traffic to count as a barrier.

jelun

reconreb wrote:

There are many types of walls Paul . The combination of concrete , steel , electronic , human patrol and simply enforcing current laws by letting border patrol do their job .. The term Wall should not be narrowed to a physical structure only . Heck , put military training base's along our borders .. We can not simply give up ,, Good God man ! What would you suggest ??

Did you read what Paul wrote?

Radiance3

Voice of Reason wrote:

According to Dem politicians and their followers, walls don't work. So, why are they building a wall around their own convention site in Philly? Apparently these hypocrites think walls only work when erected to protect Democrat politicians and their servants.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Wells-Fargo-Center-Xfinity-Live-to-Be-Inside-Perimeter-Secret-Service-Says-382433501.html

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Walls could not totally prevent illegals climbing, because they dig deep tunnels into the US. Especially the drug dealers, and those being paid by terrorists to come into the US.

Israel was able to find and close all tunnels dug by Hamas, but Hamas funded by Saudi Arabia have dug deep tunnels again.
The Mexican drug dealers have billions of proceeds selling drugs, they can dig deep tunnels again to bring drugs to the US.

Now, Venezuelan people are hungry, the results of SOCIALISM being professed by the Pope, and Bernie Sanders. Socialism is dependency, being rationed by the government. People skills gifted by God are not used except the government dictates how the people behave, as long as the people support the dictator socialist leader.

reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.

jelun wrote:

Did you read what Paul wrote?

Yep,, did you ??

the waker Loc: 11th freest nation

LAPhil wrote:

So you didn't like them when they were the Cleveland Browns?

No, actually I was a Chargers fan then
Didn't become Ravens fan till '97.