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New Research on spaying or neutering your dog
Jun 8, 2016 19:13:37   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
For years people have had their dogs neutered or their bitches spayed if they did not want them to be part of the reproducing population. Veterinarians have been pushing for males to be neutered at 4 months and many have pushed for bitches to be spayed even earlier. the clim is that it lowers the cancer rate and makes the animal more trainable and sociable. Much new research indicates the opposite may be true.

Male livestock has been neutered early, such as beef cattle, sheep and goats. Neutered before puberty help prevent the animal from developing the adult male muscle mass, maintains the juvenal behavior that makes them more manageable, and helps prevent male to male aggressiveness. Bull calves neutered early are steers, those neutered later are oxen, and are work animals, not dinner.

Using the same logic, veterinarians have advised neutering before puberty, therefore removing the hormones that cause the dog puppy to become an adult fully developed male, and in the bitch the look and behavior of the adult female. People training protection dogs, police cadaver, drug, or service ogs had begun to notice some unwanted site effects of doing this. Long bone development particularly in the hind legs in neutered dogs was developing unevenly, causing rear legs to be too long for the front legs, increasing hip dysplasia rates. Bone changes in the front legs were also different, with a propensity to broken down pasterns in young dogs and bitches. What trainers notices most however, was the lack of focus, and concentration in these early sterilized animals, making them worthless for those uses requiring serious training. Bladder incontenance in young bitches seldom occurred in unspayed bitches but is normal in early spayed bitches.

Many breed clubs funded research by veterinary school such as Cornell, and the University of Illinois (Urbana) plus Virginia Tech. The results have been analyzed and now Veterinarians are recommending that animals not be neutered or spayed until they are through puberty and advise that giant breed and some large breed males be two before neutering, small breed males and bitches can be neutered or spayed at a year without any added risks. This is most important for working dogs and dogs that you want to be able to focus and learn, rather than remain in the silly puppy stage, what we call the "space cadet" stage for the rest of their lives. Also keep in mind the bone problems common in early neutered dogs.
Studies are now being done on triggers for Cushings which seems to be much more common in early spay or neutered dogs and bitches. Some breeds such as Scotties, West highland white Terriers and Petite Bassett which are prone to develop cushings syndrome may have even more risk with early spay or neutering. These studies have been ongoing for a number of years, and the results are just becoming available.

Apparently interrupting puberty in dogs has some serious consequenses. Worth thinking about isn't it.

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Jun 8, 2016 19:17:44   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
[quote=no propaganda please]For years people have had their dogs neutered or their bitches spayed if they did not want them to be part of the reproducing population. Veterinarians have been pushing for males to be neutered at 4 months and many have pushed for bitches to be spayed even earlier. the clim is that it lowers the cancer rate and makes the animal more trainable and sociable. Much new research indicates the opposite may be true.

Male livestock has been neutered early, such as beef cattle, sheep and goats. Neutered before puberty help prevent the animal from developing the adult male muscle mass, maintains the juvenal behavior that makes them more manageable, and helps prevent male to male aggressiveness. Bull calves neutered early are steers, those neutered later are oxen, and are work animals, not dinner.

Using the same logic, veterinarians have advised neutering before puberty, therefore removing the hormones that cause the dog puppy to become an adult fully developed male, and in the bitch the look and behavior of the adult female. People training protection dogs, police cadaver, drug, or service ogs had begun to notice some unwanted site effects of doing this. Long bone development particularly in the hind legs in neutered dogs was developing unevenly, causing rear legs to be too long for the front legs, increasing hip dysplasia rates. Bone changes in the front legs were also different, with a propensity to broken down pasterns in young dogs and bitches. What trainers notices most however, was the lack of focus, and concentration in these early sterilized animals, making them worthless for those uses requiring serious training. Bladder incontenance in young bitches seldom occurred in unspayed bitches but is normal in early spayed bitches.

Many breed clubs funded research by veterinary school such as Cornell, and the University of Illinois (Urbana) plus Virginia Tech. The results have been analyzed and now Veterinarians are recommending that animals not be neutered or spayed until they are through puberty and advise that giant breed and some large breed males be two before neutering, small breed males and bitches can be neutered or spayed at a year without any added risks. This is most important for working dogs and dogs that you want to be able to focus and learn, rather than remain in the silly puppy stage, what we call the "space cadet" stage for the rest of their lives. Also keep in mind the bone problems common in early neutered dogs.
Studies are now being done on triggers for Cushings which seems to be much more common in early spay or neutered dogs and bitches. Some breeds such as Scotties, West highland white Terriers and Petite Bassett which are prone to develop cushings syndrome may have even more risk with early spay or neutering. These studies have been ongoing for a number of years, and the results are just becoming available.

Apparently interrupting puberty in dogs has some serious consequenses. Worth thinking about isn't it.[/quote

Spayed or Neutered Dogs Have Higher Disease Rates - Mercola.com
healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2013/.../early-neutering-effects.asp...
Jun 26, 2013 - The researchers focused on joint disorders and cancers because ... that play important roles in body processes like bone growth plate closure. ... In early neutered males there was a 5 percent occurrence, and in early spayed ...
Don't Make This Mistake When Scheduling Your Dog's Neutering ...
healthypets.mercola.com/.../healthypets/.../dangers-of-early-pet-spaying-or-neutering....

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Jun 8, 2016 21:23:46   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
[quote=no propaganda please][quote=no propaganda please]For years people have had their dogs neutered or their bitches spayed if they did not want them to be part of the reproducing population. Veterinarians have been pushing for males to be neutered at 4 months and many have pushed for bitches to be spayed even earlier. the clim is that it lowers the cancer rate and makes the animal more trainable and sociable. Much new research indicates the opposite may be true.

Male livestock has been neutered early, such as beef cattle, sheep and goats. Neutered before puberty help prevent the animal from developing the adult male muscle mass, maintains the juvenal behavior that makes them more manageable, and helps prevent male to male aggressiveness. Bull calves neutered early are steers, those neutered later are oxen, and are work animals, not dinner.

Using the same logic, veterinarians have advised neutering before puberty, therefore removing the hormones that cause the dog puppy to become an adult fully developed male, and in the bitch the look and behavior of the adult female. People training protection dogs, police cadaver, drug, or service ogs had begun to notice some unwanted site effects of doing this. Long bone development particularly in the hind legs in neutered dogs was developing unevenly, causing rear legs to be too long for the front legs, increasing hip dysplasia rates. Bone changes in the front legs were also different, with a propensity to broken down pasterns in young dogs and bitches. What trainers notices most however, was the lack of focus, and concentration in these early sterilized animals, making them worthless for those uses requiring serious training. Bladder incontenance in young bitches seldom occurred in unspayed bitches but is normal in early spayed bitches.

Many breed clubs funded research by veterinary school such as Cornell, and the University of Illinois (Urbana) plus Virginia Tech. The results have been analyzed and now Veterinarians are recommending that animals not be neutered or spayed until they are through puberty and advise that giant breed and some large breed males be two before neutering, small breed males and bitches can be neutered or spayed at a year without any added risks. This is most important for working dogs and dogs that you want to be able to focus and learn, rather than remain in the silly puppy stage, what we call the "space cadet" stage for the rest of their lives. Also keep in mind the bone problems common in early neutered dogs.
Studies are now being done on triggers for Cushings which seems to be much more common in early spay or neutered dogs and bitches. Some breeds such as Scotties, West highland white Terriers and Petite Bassett which are prone to develop cushings syndrome may have even more risk with early spay or neutering. These studies have been ongoing for a number of years, and the results are just becoming available.

Apparently interrupting puberty in dogs has some serious consequenses. Worth thinking about isn't it.[/quote

Spayed or Neutered Dogs Have Higher Disease Rates - Mercola.com
healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2013/.../early-neutering-effects.asp...
Jun 26, 2013 - The researchers focused on joint disorders and cancers because ... that play important roles in body processes like bone growth plate closure. ... In early neutered males there was a 5 percent occurrence, and in early spayed ...
Don't Make This Mistake When Scheduling Your Dog's Neutering ...
healthypets.mercola.com/.../healthypets/.../dangers-of-early-pet-spaying-or-neutering....[/quote]


While reading this think of the puberty delaying hormones that are used in children who are confused about which gender they are. The questions I have asked about that have been considered hate speech by the LGBTQ people on OPP. Have they done enough research to know what the side effects may be twenty years from then. It is only recently that the research has been started on dogs about things that they have been noticing for twenty years.

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Jun 8, 2016 21:25:46   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
no propaganda please wrote:
For years people have had their dogs neutered or their bitches spayed if they did not want them to be part of the reproducing population. Veterinarians have been pushing for males to be neutered at 4 months and many have pushed for bitches to be spayed even earlier. the clim is that it lowers the cancer rate and makes the animal more trainable and sociable. Much new research indicates the opposite may be true.

Male livestock has been neutered early, such as beef cattle, sheep and goats. Neutered before puberty help prevent the animal from developing the adult male muscle mass, maintains the juvenal behavior that makes them more manageable, and helps prevent male to male aggressiveness. Bull calves neutered early are steers, those neutered later are oxen, and are work animals, not dinner.

Using the same logic, veterinarians have advised neutering before puberty, therefore removing the hormones that cause the dog puppy to become an adult fully developed male, and in the bitch the look and behavior of the adult female. People training protection dogs, police cadaver, drug, or service ogs had begun to notice some unwanted site effects of doing this. Long bone development particularly in the hind legs in neutered dogs was developing unevenly, causing rear legs to be too long for the front legs, increasing hip dysplasia rates. Bone changes in the front legs were also different, with a propensity to broken down pasterns in young dogs and bitches. What trainers notices most however, was the lack of focus, and concentration in these early sterilized animals, making them worthless for those uses requiring serious training. Bladder incontenance in young bitches seldom occurred in unspayed bitches but is normal in early spayed bitches.

Many breed clubs funded research by veterinary school such as Cornell, and the University of Illinois (Urbana) plus Virginia Tech. The results have been analyzed and now Veterinarians are recommending that animals not be neutered or spayed until they are through puberty and advise that giant breed and some large breed males be two before neutering, small breed males and bitches can be neutered or spayed at a year without any added risks. This is most important for working dogs and dogs that you want to be able to focus and learn, rather than remain in the silly puppy stage, what we call the "space cadet" stage for the rest of their lives. Also keep in mind the bone problems common in early neutered dogs.
Studies are now being done on triggers for Cushings which seems to be much more common in early spay or neutered dogs and bitches. Some breeds such as Scotties, West highland white Terriers and Petite Bassett which are prone to develop cushings syndrome may have even more risk with early spay or neutering. These studies have been ongoing for a number of years, and the results are just becoming available.

Apparently interrupting puberty in dogs has some serious consequenses. Worth thinking about isn't it.
For years people have had their dogs neutered or t... (show quote)


I wonder if sterilization would eliminate these problems?

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Jun 8, 2016 22:33:15   #
buddy42 Loc: Bonita Springs, Fl
 
bilordinary wrote:
I wonder if sterilization would eliminate these problems?



It hasn't helped the liberals and as you know they are close relatives of canines and bovines!

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Jun 9, 2016 09:13:30   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Keep in mind that the research does not include cats. Because cats come in season around 3-4 months and every three weeks until pregnant. therefor it is a great idea to have queens not used in a planned breeding program be spayed early. On the other hand, toms neutered after one year are much less likely to develop bladder or kidney stones than those neutered earlier. It takes that long for the plumbing of the male to fully develop so small stones can pass, and stones are one of the main killers of cats.
Would delaying puberty in boys possible result in a larger number of middle age men developing stones, painful and requiring surgery. IT IS WAY TOO EARLY TO TELL, as it is a new procedure.

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Jun 9, 2016 18:04:52   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
no propaganda please wrote:
For years people have had their dogs neutered or their bitches spayed if they did not want them to be part of the reproducing population. Veterinarians have been pushing for males to be neutered at 4 months and many have pushed for bitches to be spayed even earlier. the clim is that it lowers the cancer rate and makes the animal more trainable and sociable. Much new research indicates the opposite may be true.

Male livestock has been neutered early, such as beef cattle, sheep and goats. Neutered before puberty help prevent the animal from developing the adult male muscle mass, maintains the juvenal behavior that makes them more manageable, and helps prevent male to male aggressiveness. Bull calves neutered early are steers, those neutered later are oxen, and are work animals, not dinner.

Using the same logic, veterinarians have advised neutering before puberty, therefore removing the hormones that cause the dog puppy to become an adult fully developed male, and in the bitch the look and behavior of the adult female. People training protection dogs, police cadaver, drug, or service ogs had begun to notice some unwanted site effects of doing this. Long bone development particularly in the hind legs in neutered dogs was developing unevenly, causing rear legs to be too long for the front legs, increasing hip dysplasia rates. Bone changes in the front legs were also different, with a propensity to broken down pasterns in young dogs and bitches. What trainers notices most however, was the lack of focus, and concentration in these early sterilized animals, making them worthless for those uses requiring serious training. Bladder incontenance in young bitches seldom occurred in unspayed bitches but is normal in early spayed bitches.

Many breed clubs funded research by veterinary school such as Cornell, and the University of Illinois (Urbana) plus Virginia Tech. The results have been analyzed and now Veterinarians are recommending that animals not be neutered or spayed until they are through puberty and advise that giant breed and some large breed males be two before neutering, small breed males and bitches can be neutered or spayed at a year without any added risks. This is most important for working dogs and dogs that you want to be able to focus and learn, rather than remain in the silly puppy stage, what we call the "space cadet" stage for the rest of their lives. Also keep in mind the bone problems common in early neutered dogs.
Studies are now being done on triggers for Cushings which seems to be much more common in early spay or neutered dogs and bitches. Some breeds such as Scotties, West highland white Terriers and Petite Bassett which are prone to develop cushings syndrome may have even more risk with early spay or neutering. These studies have been ongoing for a number of years, and the results are just becoming available.

Apparently interrupting puberty in dogs has some serious consequenses. Worth thinking about isn't it.
For years people have had their dogs neutered or t... (show quote)



wish I had lnown this about 13 years ago
had puppy neutered and she had much trouble with her legs
excellent report

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Jun 9, 2016 20:11:22   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
badbobby wrote:
wish I had lnown this about 13 years ago
had puppy neutered and she had much trouble with her legs
excellent report


Thank you for reading it.
While we do not breed dogs and both Cane Corsos are neutered, done after two years of age, we have so many friends in conformation showing as well as performance events that we keep up. Those things that matter for the physical and mental soundness of our service and therapy dogs are very important to us. The youngest member of our dog household is a Welsh Terrier who finished his AKC conformation championship recently. After the breeder has him collected for future breedings, has gotten all the health certifications, hips, patellas, heart, eyes, and temperament certification, we will have him neutered as he is really intended to be a therapy dog, the conformation career was just because he turned out to be an exceptional representative of the breed, and the breeder wanted his championship obedience titles and therapy certification is now what we are working on. If you ever wonder how come good purebred dogs from reliable breeders cost so much, keep in mind that fees and show expenses to finish his championship were around $10,000, and all the health certifications were around $800.00, so before he is ever used for breeding she has at least $11,000 invested in him. But he is now Champion Chaos and soon to have obedience and rally titles, plus therapy certification. All for the love of dogs. DOG PEOPLE ARE CRAZY.

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Jun 9, 2016 20:55:36   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
buddy42 wrote:
It hasn't helped the liberals and as you know they are close relatives of canines and bovines!


Now your insulting the animal kingdom!

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Jun 9, 2016 21:46:21   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
bilordinary wrote:
Now your insulting the animal kingdom!



nope
just people

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Jun 10, 2016 00:12:38   #
buddy42 Loc: Bonita Springs, Fl
 
bilordinary wrote:
Now your insulting the animal kingdom!




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Jun 11, 2016 09:21:06   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
While considering the influence of removing the normal hormones early, please keep in mind that hip and elbow dysplasia and Legge Perthes disease all have a major genetic component. When purchasing a purebred dog, find out how many of the pedigree animals have been certified dysplasia free. It does matter for the health of the dog and particularly all the giant breeds or any retriever breeds, as they are all prone to dysplasia.

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