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Why do we let this happen?
Dec 13, 2013 11:06:10 #
Floyd Brown wrote:
This was a reply to an others post. If it is of interest look up tjat post.
You are not looking for truth any way.
You are not looking for truth any way.
oh and your the bearer of trurh
Dec 13, 2013 11:13:24 #
Floyd Brown
Loc: Milwaukee WI
vernon wrote:
oh and your the bearer of trurh
Too often when we read things we may get a negative feeling for what re are reading. I feel that is why I was short with you.
Sorry!
I hope for the most part when I write something I say it is what I feel or think. I try do do the sane with those who's posts I read.
Dec 13, 2013 11:15:00 #
ginnyt wrote:
I found that a significant number do as you suggest. But, my interest was in what happened to the owners, what happened to their farms and businesses after the war, if they had to give up their farms where did they go..... many questions that is not PC to ask. Everyone focus their attention on blacks, and that is all fine and well. I guess I have always liked the roads less traveled.
i believe that most of them were driven into poverty and had their great mansions destroyed by the yankees.there is just a few of the great mansions that survived.
Dec 13, 2013 11:32:08 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
vernon wrote:
i believe that most of them were driven into poverty and had their great mansions destroyed by the yankees.there is just a few of the great mansions that survived.
If what you say is true, then why did Blacks not feel vindicated? The people who owned them were reduced to poverty, their wealth gone, their homes and farms gone. In most normal way of thinking, that would be enough. I also found a reference where all the freed slaves were offered transportation back to their motherlands. Why did they want to stay in the US? Seems to me, if they hated it here, were so badly treated, and longed for their heritage then why did they not leave? That being the case, then they should be pissed off at the forefathers for declining the offer instead of hating the decedents of the whites that owned their great, great.....fathers and mothers. I also learned that only 8 percent of the population of the US owned slaves, so why do they blame all whites? Just seems odd to me.
Dec 13, 2013 11:44:07 #
ginnyt wrote:
If what you say is true, then why did Blacks not f... (show quote)
i doubt it was 8%.the comman man couldent afford a slave and if he had one he couldent take care of him food clothes ect.if the war hadent come i really believe that slavery would have ended by the turn of the centuary it wouldent have been econmically feasible with the tractor and cotton picker coming along
Dec 13, 2013 11:56:14 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
vernon wrote:
i doubt it was 8%.the comman man couldent afford a slave and if he had one he couldent take care of him food clothes ect.if the war hadent come i really believe that slavery would have ended by the turn of the centuary it wouldent have been econmically feasible with the tractor and cotton picker coming along
I agree with your assessment, as with anything there is always a better and bigger machine. But, I still wonder why they did not take advantage of the free transportation back to their homeland. And, why be bitter toward a complete race of people for what only a small percentage did? I guess I need to dig deeper into real historical records. The new history will not tell the complete story as seen back in the day.
Thank you for your honest reply!
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Dec 13, 2013 12:03:20 #
ginnyt wrote:
I agree with your assessment, as with anything the... (show quote)
lincoln setup the nation of liberia for freed slaves ,i dont know if they could allow them to go to their home land because they were so far advanced they would have enslaved the population.
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Dec 13, 2013 12:17:46 #
alex
Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
ginnyt wrote:
I agree with your assessment, as with anything the... (show quote)
there is a small country on the south-west coast of Africa that was started by some slaves that were transported back to Africa under just such a deal, it is now one of the most brutal gov't's in Africa
Dec 13, 2013 12:19:17 #
alex
Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
vernon wrote:
lincoln setup the nation of liberia for freed slaves ,i dont know if they could allow them to go to their home land because they were so far advanced they would have enslaved the population.
I think this is the country I was referring to
Dec 13, 2013 12:35:48 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
vernon wrote:
lincoln setup the nation of liberia for freed slaves ,i dont know if they could allow them to go to their home land because they were so far advanced they would have enslaved the population.
I did not find any reference to that train of thought, but it is interesting. So, here is a further question. If Africans were already enslaving Africans (and still do) how much of an impact would the rehoming of these slaves cause? I wonder if Lincoln cared? If you read the transcripts of many of Lincoln's speeches, he seemed to think that blacks could not be assimilated into white society. He rejected the notion of social equality of the races, and held to the view that blacks should be resettled abroad. As President, he supported projects to remove blacks from the United States. It seems that most Americans at that time was in favor of paying for their transportation back to their fatherland. I found one paper on the net that is written from neither conservative or liberal point of view but based on the transcripts of Lincoln. http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n5p-4_Morgan.html
It supports what I saw in the archives. Very interesting!
Dec 13, 2013 12:51:03 #
GERARD A. SANCHEZ
Loc: Las Vegas, Nv. 89123
RetNavyCWO wrote:
COLAs for Social Security, military and govt civil... (show quote)
The U.S. Department of labor C.P.I. annalist are cheating every year lo lower the C.O.L.As. to Social Security retirees, veterans, etc. but members of our U.S. Congress in 2009-2010 increased their members cost of living for their office budget 8% and the M.R.A. members of congress representational allowance more than the C.P.I. applied to everybody else. Our U.S. cost of living (INFLATION) is more than 16% today.
Dec 13, 2013 13:20:07 #
ginnyt wrote:
I agree with your assessment, as with anything the... (show quote)
I think by the time the slaves were freed, most of them were third or fourth or more generations away from when their ancestors were brought to America. They would have been afraid of going to the jungles in a faraway land. I seem to recall reading something like that decades ago, too.
Dec 13, 2013 13:28:50 #
ginnyt wrote:
I did not find any reference to that train of thou... (show quote)
that was an interesting article .
Dec 13, 2013 13:33:20 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
RetNavyCWO wrote:
I think by the time the slaves were freed, most of them were third or fourth or more generations away from when their ancestors were brought to America. They would have been afraid of going to the jungles in a faraway land. I seem to recall reading something like that decades ago, too.
So, if I follow you. The blacks decided, make a conscious decision to stay in the US. And, this being held as a truth, then the blacks of today have no beef about slavery. They do have a complaint about the way they were treated up until the 60s, this I understand. But now we are almost 2 generations removed from the 60s. I think that I read a study complete with scientifically based questions and the blacks who have the major issues are the last two. Those in their 60s and beyond did not show any bigotry toward whites. So, here is another question. Welfare and special benefits are relatively new and have increased for the past 40 years. Could the biased treatment (a) have given birth to the recent mob and gang violence and (b) could there be a relationship between welfare increases to hatred?
Dec 13, 2013 13:35:30 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
vernon wrote:
that was an interesting article .
I had read several bound hand written documents that were transcriptions of Lincoln's personal papers and speeches. This article was actually toned down and painted a more tolerant view of Abe. But, I am glad you found it interesting.
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