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For over two hundred years an ID wasn't needed and now it is: what has changed? Massive voter fraud...that has never been found. Incidents of such fraud, yes, and evenly split between parties (as long as you are not prejudice Democrat zombies; even the dead have rights, right?).
Rushing into place voter ID laws shortly before an election that demographics clearly show far more Democrats will be adversely affected than Republicans and there is little time left to secure such identification is as the Republicans report, just protecting the vote? Why did the change have to be sudden on how things were done traditionally for over two centuries? Why id the Pennsylvania legislature announce that their new voter ID law would elect Romney? Oops, I know the answer: Democrat zombies, right.
Any expense that infringes or imperils on the right to vote is called a "poll tax," a practice perfected in the segregated South. To most of us living in this modern society, spending close to five bucks on a cup of good coffee in the morning and perhaps not even finishing it, having bank accounts and making financial transactions almost daily, the possible imposition of getting what we see as a basic piece of existence, an official state ID, is ridiculous. What? Ten or twenty bucks? But more to the point, why the heck don't you have that anyway? Are you on the run or a terrorist? Some useless welfare flake?

When I grew up in New York City, many residents did not bother to get drivers licenses; public transport was thoroughly relied on. A different time, yes, but many young people eligible to vote have not yet had that need. Many elderly no longer drive, as well as those disabled. Many poor have no vehicle. Then there is spending money for something was that was once free and considered the right of every citizen to exercise without financial constraints, now demands money.
Due to my own reckless behavior for a while, a dollar was a possible breaking point. A mere dollar. Take the chance of using some food money (for me, beer, but I am distracting from the point I want to make about the honest poor) to get on public transportation to find a job is huge. To get this ID, also means paying for a birth certificate. It is an imposition and weight.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Alex, RINO is a term invented by your fellow traveler rightwingnuts to describe establishment Republicans who don't toe the Tea Party line as "Republicans In Name Only." Did you mind assume it was another slur meaning commie, marxist, muslim--the usual falsifications slung around by the farrightwingnuts on OPP and other political comment sites.

I've noticed that your posts are usually short and, shall we say, short in comprehension...never an idea or explanation, just a jibe usually. Jibe away, but understand that no one will take you seriously until you actually have something to say.

RINO indeed... laughable Alex. Don't feel bad--I'm equally obtuse often and have difficulty following all the code words and angle in posts. ha.

ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa

Hungry Freaks: Your full of Manusa! Talking about a term that never existed in our drafting of the Constitution (separation of Church & State) It was coined by Jefferson in a private letter 200 years ago, and plagiarized by Hugo Black - Supreme Court Judge 1945. Know where in our Constitution or Bill of Rights is that statement mention! Try "Freedom of Religion!" Our Constitution was drafted by men of religion for people of religion - that is a fact! “We have no government armed with the power capable of contending with the human passions, unbridled be morality and true religion. Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people, It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
John Adams - Second President
The word substituted for God is found (Diety) It means the same thing!

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I just love this guy, he is black, he is bold and pulls no punches! Thank you for the link!!!

ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa

Hungry Freaks: Maybe this will tell you something!
Signers of our Great Religious Document!
John Adams – Puritan and Husband of Abigale, daughter of a Congregational Minister
Samual Adams – Old South Congregational church member, son of a church deacon and married to Elizabeth Checkley, daughter to Reverend Checkley
Josiah Bartlett – Congregationalist and physician
Carter Braxton – Episcopalian and vestry member
Charles Carroll – Roman Catholic
Samuel Chase – Episcopalian, vestry member, and son of an Anglican priest
Abraham Clark – Presbyterian and church trustee
George Clymer – Quaker, son of an Anglican and possibly an Episcopalian
William Ellery – Congregationalist
William Floyd – Presbyterian
Benjamin Franklin – Deist, but was raised Episcopalian
Elbridge Gerry – Episcopalian
Button Gwinnett – Episcopalian
Lyman Hall – Congregationalist and preacher
John Hancock – Congregationalist, son of a minster, and grandson of a minister
Benjamin Harrison – Episcopalian
John Hart – Presbyterian and preacher (non-practicing)
Joseph Hewes – Quaker
Thomas Heyward, Jr. – Episcopalian
William Hooper – Episcopalian and son of a minister
Stephen Hopkins – Episcopalian (with Baptist ancestry)
Francis Hopkinson – Episcopalian and son of a Bishop of the Church of England
Samuel Huntington – Congregationalist
Thomas Jefferson – Deist, but was raised Episcopalian
Francis Lightfoot Lee – Episcopalian, raised by a Reverend
Richard Henry Lee – Episcopalian
Francis Lewis – Episcopalian and son of a clergyman
Philip Livingston – Presbyterian and descendent of a Scotch minister
Thomas Lynch, Jr. – Episcopalian
Thomas McKean – Presbyterian, instructed at youth by a minister
Arthur Middleton – Episcopalian
Lewis Morris – Episcopalian
Robert Morris – Episcopalian
John Morton – Episcopalian
Thomas Nelson, Jr. – Episcopalian
William Paca – Episcopalian
Robert Treat Paine – Congregationalist and clergyman
John Penn – Episcopalian
George Read – Episcopalian and pupil of a reverend
Caesar Rodney – Episcopalian and husband to a clergymen’s daughter
George Ross – Episcopalian and son of a minister
Benjamin Rush – Presbyterian
Edward Rutledge – Episcopalian
Roger Sherman – Congregationalist
James Smith – Presbyterian and cared for by a reverend
Richard Stockton – Presbyterian
Thomas Stone – Episcopalian
George Taylor – Presbyterian and son of a clergyman
Matthew Thornton – Presbyterian
George Walton – Episcopalian
William Whipple – Congregationalist
William Williams – Congregationalist, son of a minister, and grandson of a minister
James Wilson – Episcopalian and a Presbyterian
John Witherspoon – Presbyterian clergyman (the only clergyman to sign the Declaration)
Oliver Wolcott – Congregationalist
George Wythe – Episcopalian
I don’t know where people get their information from sometimes but it’s absolutely staggering the pure historical ignorance we’ve been seeing around the internet lately. These Patriots were religious!

ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa

Old School: I agree as well! Hear!...Hear!

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

And more filth from Old Freak. What's wrong with you, old man?

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

You kind of suck at this debating stuff.

This was implemented this past August:

The Obama administration unexpectedly announced two new gun control measures on Thursday, including one that would curb the import of military surplus weapons -- in a move that could anger collectors.

Vice President Biden announced the new measures Thursday morning. The new rules, announced while Washington was otherwise focused on the crisis in Syria, took the form of executive actions, which President Obama added to the list of 23 steps the White House already determined the president could take on his own.

As far as your analogy of Obamacare to car insurance,,,,,wrong again. Driving a car is a privilege and one must take a test, be old enough, or even have access to a vehicle. If you are not old enough, cannot pass the test, or have access to a vehicle, regardless of how old you are, you are not required to have car insurance. Not everyone drives Nimrod.

On Obamacare:

Why on earth would a 4 year old need contraception included in their plan and an 85 year old need maternity coverage in theirs? It's ludicrous don't you think?

Here...let me explain this abomination to you so maybe even a Hungry Freaky dude can even understand.

The actual purpose for this massive takeover of one-sixth of the entire U.S. economy and ultimately the establishment (through Obamacare's intentional and inevitable destruction of private health insurance) of a true "single payer" system - that is, socialized medicine.

The payoff is a permanent, vast increase in government control over virtually every aspect of Americans' lives. Since so many things affect people's health, once the government is paying for all healthcare, it will progressively regulate and control individuals' lives to minimize their health risks - what they eat, what they do, what they drive, what kind of entertainment they watch - EVERYTHING. Period

Can you possibly comprehend this thing, or am I going too fast for a hungry freak such as yourself.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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Exactly, Bill, and the no information voters will see to it that we will forevermore live under jackbooted tyrants......if we allow it.

votenoobama Loc: Texas

Republicans are not and have not restricted any Blacks from Voting. Bluejacket, tell me how many Black people you know, that don't have ID.? You can check each State that has Voter ID., laws and you will see everyone that is register can vote and there has not been any problems at All.
You statement is not TRUE.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

The only clue we have as to what you're like or about is your posts, and they show that you're a foul-mouthed political freak and crank, you old geezer. Now me, I'm also a political freak and crank but I admit it and try to avoid filth.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

I would have thought they would. True conservatives stand for principles not total nuclearian partisanship like the fake conservatives of the extreme right, the CINOs--they're radicals, the opposite of true conservative.

Brian Devon

Thomas Jefferson? Who gives a rat's ass what this outrageous hypocrite chose as his religious identification? The man was a racist rapist who believed in slaves doing his dirty work while he piously pontificated and prattled ad nauseum about "freedom" and "liberty".Jefferson was the most prominent hypocrite ever produced by this nation with the exceptions of Joe McCarthey( a sanctimonious drunk) and J. Edgar Hoover, a sanctimonious self-hating gay drag queen.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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Why so much anger at dead people you never met? How do you know what you know about these people? Not from witnessing it, but from what others said, and you don't know if it is true or not. But the hatred you spew is toxic and shouldn't be spread about.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I do not know of any blacks that do not have IDs, but most of the illegal aliens do not. But, they should not be voting in the first place. I am in favor of having to show an ID when voting! They are easy to obtain. But, now that I think about it, there are lots of fake IDs (for a price) that illegals use to gain employment.

The honor system does not work if the people have no honor.