Artemis

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

"12 years of formal training..."', ....ten years of practice in the field of psychiatry"....

The 12 years was behind bars most likely, and that ten years of practice was actually you standing out in front of K marts with a tin cup asking for donations to feed yourself....yep...lots of real research and education for you there, yes indeed.

Artemis

I've seen it read it and have been keeping up with it since it began, and has nothing to do with when I join in on this post. I don't understand why you berate Sing.when her stance is in concern for children? Please explain.

just care

Why is it that only gays and welfare recipients claim to be psychiatrists?

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

The article you cited referred to a few kids in a study did not indicate how many children, starting at what age identified themselves as the other sex and in what terms. What brain scans were done to go along with this identity? How many kids went through a transgender period and then changed to a cisgender identity. Studies of twenty kids all done with a bias in mind, may tell only part of the story. Frankly I don't care if some children identify as dogs, just don't demand an excercise pen in the bathrooms. I feel for these kids but can think back to two kids that I knew years ago and wonder what would have been the difference with different rearing. One was a boy that I saw in the library the grocery store and other places around town. His father and mother well always yelling at him that he was not as good as his sister. "why can't you be like your sister she behaves, doesn't get dirty and is always polite. you on the other hand are noisy wild, can't sit still and always have to mess up your clothes" How often does a boy have to hear that before he starts to believe that boys have no value? How many ntimes does he hear that before he wants to be a girl? The other case that was a couple of casual friends we had that had three boys and a girl. the little girl was the last of the kids, and the parents did everything for her. What ever she wanted, she got the best clothes,lots of dolls, a ct of her own, and her very own bedroom. Everything she did was perfect. All three boys shared a bedroom, the oldest handed down his clothes, so the youngest always had worn out clothes, then the parents scolded him for always looking slovenly. He couldn't have a dog, because their sisters cat would not like that. The cat loved the girl but attacked the boys who were always blamed when the cat came out of nowhere and scratched the boys. The youngest boy in that family did try to wear his sisters clothes a couple of times, and was spanked for doing so. He thought he was good only when he ws wearing a dress. We moved away while the kids were young, but heard later that the oldest died of a drug overdose at 14. Now tell me that the parents behavior had nothing to do with the results, and really mean it.

Singularity

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/the-truth-about-transgend_b_8564834.html

The Truth About Transgender Suicide
Nov 14, 2015 | Updated Feb 02, 2016

For this year’s transgender awareness week I wanted to write about something that the transgender community and its allies are often afraid to discuss. Those who want to drive transgender people into the closet, legislate against us, and stigmatize us, talk about all the time in order further marginalize us. It is literally a matter of life and death.

It is suicide.

People know that transgender people are at a higher risk of suicide, but why this risk is higher is often not understood by the public, or misused by people who wish us further harm. The statistic that 40% of transgender people have attempted suicide is used all the time to justify all sorts of things that have absolutely zero basis in science.

Why transgender people are at risk is something that has actually been studied in great detail by psychologists and sociologists. They have found many of the same factors increase risk across multiple peer reviewed studies.

Transgender people who are rejected by their families or lack social support are much more likely to both consider suicide, and to attempt it. Conversely, those with strong support were 82% less likely to attempt suicide than those without support, according to one recent study. Another study showed that transgender youth whose parents reject their gender identity are 13 times more likely to attempt suicide than transgender youth who are supported by their parents.

Discrimination increases suicide risk

Transgender people in states without LGBT legal protections are at higher risk of suicide. Other studies have found that transgender people who have been discriminated against are at a higher risk of suicide. What makes this worse is that discrimination against transgender people in health care, employment, accommodations, and housing is very common. Even in places with legal protections for transgender people, like Washington D.C., cultural bias and discrimination remains.

Physical abuse increases suicide risk

Transgender people who have been physically or sexually abused because they are transgender are at a higher risk of suicide. As the number of abusive incidents increases, the more likely the person is to have attempted suicide. The amount of abuse is also associated with the number of time suicide has been attempted. Again, studies on how often transgender people are assaulted show shockingly high levels of violence.

Being seen as transgender or gender non-conforming increases suicide risk

People who are seen as transgender or gender non-conforming are more likely to have attempted suicide. Also, people who have had access to surgery which allows them to “pass,” such as facial feminization surgery, report qualities of life not significantly different from the general population. This is perhaps the most damning study, since it strongly suggests that when transgender people are treated the same as cisgender (non-transgender) people, the risk of suicide becomes no different than for anyone else.

Internalized transphobia increases suicide risk

Internalized transphobia is when a transgender individual applies negative messages about transgender people in general to themselves. It’s not hard to find such messages in our culture, especially since a multi-million dollar smear campaign in Houston successfully convinced an uninformed populace that transgender people should be treated like rapists and pedophiles. When transgender people start applying such messages to themselves, the suicide attempt rate skyrockets.

Intersecting minority identities increases suicide risk

Multiple studies have found that transgender people of color are at higher risk of suicide than white transgender people. This is a result of the combined effects of racial and gender identity discrimination.

Notice a pattern here? None of these risks for suicide are about being transgender. They’re about what is being done to transgender people. And therein lies the rub.

There’s nothing inherently wrong with being transgender .

There is something horribly, horribly wrong with the way we as a culture treat transgender people.

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Singularity

Continued:
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/the-truth-about-transgend_b_8564834.html
The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has addressed the issue of suicide in LGBT populations, and reached the same conclusions on the actual causes of suicide in the transgender community:

“Suicidal behaviors in LGBT populations appear to be related to “minority stress”, which stems from the cultural and social prejudice attached to minority sexual orientation and gender identity. This stress includes individual experiences of prejudice or discrimination, such as family rejection, harassment, bullying, violence, and victimization. Increasingly recognized as an aspect of minority stress is “institutional discrimination” resulting from laws and public policies that create inequities or omit LGBT people from benefits and protections afforded others. Individual and institutional discrimination have been found to be associated with social isolation, low self-esteem, negative sexual/gender identity, and depression, anxiety, and other mental disorders. These negative outcomes, rather than minority sexual orientation or gender identity per se, appear to be the key risk factors for LGBT suicidal ideation and behavior.”

This doesn’t change the fact that people who push for discrimination against transgender misuse studies, and use “experts“ who are proponents of reparative therapy for all LGBT people, and haven’t seen a transgender patient in 35 years. Their so-called logic is that if people weren’t transgender and didn’t transition, they wouldn’t commit suicide. This is the intellectual equivalent of suggesting we should prevent rape by making women wear burqas, chastity belts, and never letting them leave the house.

Their pray-away-the-trans “solutions” to bringing down the suicide rate in the transgender community are almost a guarantee of more suicides. Studies show religious counseling increases the suicide rate in LGB people. Reparative therapy has never been demonstrated to be successful on transgender people, isn’t approved by any psychological organization, has no guidelines on how to conduct it, and no standard metrics of success.

In other words, any attempt to suggest that the solution to the problem of suicide in the transgender community is to stop being transgender is nothing more than chaff. These individuals are more interested in enforcing their brand of Biblical morality on society than the actual well-being of transgender people.

They’re hoping that no one will read this article. They’re hoping that no one will think the problem through. What happens when you rape, beat, fire, evict, reject, isolate, demonize, and humiliate a class people on a daily basis? What happens when all of this is done by people in the name of God? Would you expect a group of people experiencing this to thrive?

Or would you expect 40% of them to try to find escape in oblivion?

Leelah was right.

If we want to end the scourge of suicide, it’s time we stop trying to fix transgender people.

It’s time to fix society.

Artemis

You actually believe a psychiatrists are on welfare? I can't tell if you simply ignorant or just dishonest.

Artemis

Thank you Sing some valuable information for all to read, and this point alone...

quote:"Transgender people who have been physically or sexually abused because they are transgender are at a higher risk of suicide. As the number of abusive incidents increases, the more likely the person is to have attempted suicide. The amount of abuse is also associated with the number of time suicide has been attempted. Again, studies on how often transgender people are assaulted show shockingly high levels of violence."

is what makes the new hb2 law an atrocity, bias and against the civil rights act.

just care

Singularity,
Knock it off!
You are trying to deflect blame for transgender suicide on innocent people.
A transgender is obviously already confused. Its comments like yours that will push them over the edge and into suicide.
Transgender are confused not stupid. When you make statements like that ( talking down to them) you do more harm than good.
Using your logic that they commit suicide because people don't like or understand them is nonsense.
I was a Republican in Los Angeles. 70% of the people hated me. Hell, many people on this site don't like me. Am I suicidal? Hell no. Transgender suicide is no different than any other suicide. The transgender part is merely a symptom, not the original problem of mental illness. When you tell transgender part that their issue is someone else's problem, they may not seek professional assistance ( why would they, if its actually someone else's problem)? And suicide rates increase. Stop the rhetoric that transgender ism is the problem. Mental illness and suicide is the problem.

Singularity

I believe this is the fourth time I have posted this information for this same group of posters, including NPP, and then seen the same damn lies posted again.

I hate damn lies! I get really mad and hateful feelings arise in me when damn lies hurt children in the name of some twisted perverse malignant deity.

Singularity

You are a psychiatrist? Obviously not because you cannot read a simple study with comprehension.

You knock off being an illiterate facilitator of pain and death towards vulnerable children, huh?

just care

Not at all. I said " people who claim to be psychiatrists" and I can tell whether you're ignorant or dishonest. You're both. People who try to misquote me are obliviously dishonest. And anyone that believes that everyone claiming to be a psychiatrist , actually is one is ignorant.

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

People who think they are something they are not need mental help !

What I'm getting here from you is if transgender people were not given medical help then that would stop them committing suicide !

What would you do to stop men from saying they feel like they are women but really not so they can go into women's restrooms dressing rooms and showers !

There are ready cases that this has happened !

northernlights

Just care... Ha, you have trusting issues, you don't trust the poster claiming to be a psychiatrist and that she is lying and now immediately claiming my misreading your post was intentional when it was not, it was my error, as I did not view her comment as a claim, my apologies to that. It is no wonder you don't trust as you view it as ignorance.