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Dec 9, 2013 20:53:53   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
AuntiE wrote:
Had he not placed them on separate lines, I would have done the same. It was because they were on separate lines, I took one as question and one as a statement. I tend to get "geeky" on writing.


Statement 1
I still think he worships a false God

Statement 2
Murder is murder unless it is to save another life.

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Dec 9, 2013 22:18:34   #
son of witless
 
BoJester wrote:
So you have a problem with the first amendment?
Your ignorance is what is pathetic. Everyone MUST agree with the conservative viewpoint?


Coming from an Obama liberal, that is funny. Anyone who disagrees with Obama is a racist. You guys can't stand when someone stands up to you.

Getting back to the first commandment. Your first seems to be not to have any Gods before the mighty Obama.

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Dec 9, 2013 22:41:29   #
Brian Devon
 
ABBAsFernando wrote:
Jesus Christ is a CONSERVATIVE!

This is what God thinks of LIBERALS:

Isaiah 32:5-8
King James Version (KJV)
5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be bountiful.

6 For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the Lord, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail.

7 The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right.

8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.
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Why don't you debate as to whether Moses was a conservative or liberal? How about the easter bunny? How about Satan?

Like Jesus, these are all mythological characters. There has never been a shred of archaelogical or scientific evidence that any of them ever existed.

Debating whether Jesus was a conservative or liberal is like the old debate about "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? What's the point? Why bother?

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Dec 9, 2013 22:52:28   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Brian Devon wrote:
Why don't you debate as to whether Moses was a conservative or liberal? How about the easter bunny? How about Satan?

Like Jesus, these are all mythological characters. There has never been a shred of archaelogical or scientific evidence that any of them ever existed.

Debating whether Jesus was a conservative or liberal is like the old debate about "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? What's the point? Why bother?


A few books that may be of interest to you: Bart Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist? and "The Jesus Discovery" (Simon & Schuster) by James Tabor and Simcha Jacobivici and the best one Jesus and His World: The Archaeological Evidence" (Westminster John Knox Press). All three are recent book, show evidence, and is well worth the read. I have a passion for anthropology and archeology, among my other interests I try to keep up on developing discoveries.

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Dec 10, 2013 01:26:38   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
ginnyt wrote:
A few books that may be of interest to you: Bart Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist? and "The Jesus Discovery" (Simon & Schuster) by James Tabor and Simcha Jacobivici and the best one Jesus and His World: The Archaeological Evidence" (Westminster John Knox Press). All three are recent book, show evidence, and is well worth the read. I have a passion for anthropology and archeology, among my other interests I try to keep up on developing discoveries.


I mentioned the other day he is a secularist. He has no interest in possibly being incorrect.

I am trying to figure out who keeps leaving a basket at Easter if there is no Easter Bunny. It will be most upsetting if they stop. :mrgreen: :| :hunf:

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Dec 10, 2013 07:14:11   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
AuntiE wrote:
I mentioned the other day he is a secularist. He has no interest in possibly being incorrect.

I am trying to figure out who keeps leaving a basket at Easter if there is no Easter Bunny. It will be most upsetting if they stop. :mrgreen: :| :hunf:


I find his entries problematic, sometimes he claims the Bible to be a myth and in other threads he talks about his religion.

The Easter Bunny....say it is not so! :| :(

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Dec 10, 2013 08:00:33   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
ginnyt wrote:
I find his entries problematic, sometimes he claims the Bible to be a myth and in other threads he talks about his religion.

The Easter Bunny....say it is not so! :| :(


I spend Easter with my BFF of, never mind the number of years, and a basket appears without fail. I could almost swear I saw little floppy ears hopping down the steps once. I will be most upset on this Easter Bunny issue. :shock:

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Dec 10, 2013 08:05:22   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
AuntiE wrote:
I spend Easter with my BFF of, never mind the number of years, and a basket appears without fail. I could almost swear I saw little floppy ears hopping down the steps once. I will be most upset on this Easter Bunny issue. :shock:


I got a pix of the one that vandalized my tulips last year!



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Dec 10, 2013 08:22:18   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
ginnyt wrote:
I got a pix of the one that vandalized my tulips last year!


The one I saw appeared (I was half asleep.) to be a darling large white one.

Our neighborhood has a bunny that is relatively tame. Of course, we have a lovely fox residing between three backyards as well.

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Dec 10, 2013 08:24:31   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
ginnyt wrote:
I got a pix of the one that vandalized my tulips last year!


Addendum....your rabbit looks much like the VV in real life.

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Dec 10, 2013 08:33:02   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
ginnyt wrote:
There is another thread saying that Jesus was a conservative. Let me relate a story we (Jews) tell their children about sin; and blaming each other.

This may be compared to the case of a king who had an orchard containing excellent early figs, and he placed there two watchmen, one lame and the other blind. He said to them: "Be careful with these fine early figs." After some days the lame man said to the blind one: "I see fine early figs in the orchard." Said the blind man to him: "Come let us eat them." "Am I then able to walk?" said the lame man. "Can I then see?" retorted the blind man. The lame man got astride the blind man, and thus they ate the early figs and sat down again each in his place.

After some days the king came into that vineyard and said to them: "Where are the fine early figs?" The blind man replied: "My lord, the king, can I then see?" The lame man replied: "My lord the king, can I then walk?" What did the king, who was a man of insight, do with them? He placed the lame man astride the blind man, and they began to move about. Said the king to them: "Thus have you done, and eaten the early figs."

Even so will the Holy One, blessed be God, in the time to come, say to the soul: "Why have you sinned before Me?" and the soul will answer: O Master of the universe, it is not I that sinned, but the body it is that sinned. Why, since leaving it, I am like a clean bird flying through the air. As for me, how have I sinned?" God will also say to the body: "Why have you sinned before Me?" and the body will reply: "O Master of the universe, not I have sinned, the soul it is that has sinned. Why, since it left me, I am cast about like a stone thrown upon the ground. Have I then sinned before You?"

What will the Holy One, blessed be God, do to them? God will bring the soul and force it into the body, and judge both as one.

As a nation, we are judged by other countries on what we do; not on what the Democrats do or Republicans. So it is true with what we do for the needy, not as a political party but as each human should do. Each person should give as they see fit, not have someone tell them what they can afford. When we are judged, we will not come before God as a Conservative or Liberal or even a Moderate. We will go naked, with only our deeds and be judged independently of everyone else. There is no shame in taking care of your family first and then others. But, there is shame if you do not take care of your own family and then others. This is something that everyone should consider before having a family. A basic question, will I be able to cloth, house and feed my family?
There is another thread saying that Jesus was a co... (show quote)



:thumbup: Such a class post. :thumbup:

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Dec 10, 2013 08:43:44   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
AuntiE wrote:
Addendum....your rabbit looks much like the VV in real life.


What can I say, I used to live in a rough neighborhood!

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Dec 10, 2013 08:44:48   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Searching wrote:
:thumbup: Such a class post. :thumbup:


Thank you. I think you are the only one who read the comment. You are most kind.

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Dec 10, 2013 09:20:06   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
ginnyt wrote:
Thank you. I think you are the only one who read the comment. You are most kind.


No, truly, thank you. I forgot to breathe for a moment. I know I must have, without realizing it, uttered a very soft "Ohhhh", because my husband asked if something was wrong. My reply was "no, at this exact moment, everything is very right." How articulate you are here and what insight. You give stunning clarity to the heart of the matter. It's really a shame, if I am the only one to have read this post. More's the pity. If I had the computer skills to do it, I would flash your post ALL OVER OPP, indeed I would.

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Dec 10, 2013 09:27:14   #
LAwrence
 
The liberalism of Jesus' day was quite different from today .He preached voluntary giving of yourself and your posessions.Today's liberalism is stealing from some to help others and keeping a good portion for yourself.

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