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May 1, 2016 21:41:10   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
eden wrote:
I posted this in full because it does refute what Rossiter says and if true that four distinguished scholars reached said conclusions, it appears to at least compromise his reactive diatribe, (although I must say that I think the medical profession like the clergy should stay out of politics in general.) That you will not accept this as a refutation is moot since you seem so fond of arguing black is white. Doctors are somewhat prone to the conceit that because they acquire a Medical License with occasional life or death decisions in their hands that places them to the right hand of God. We see this in Rossiters categorical imperitives "it is so because I say it is so"...
We do not need to play your game of trying to get you to see reason and you play the iconoclast and refuse to concede anything. The awful truth is your wretched far right conservative views belong in the 13th century and the hijacked vehicle for this viewpoint, the once proud Republican Party has been unofficially renamed "Titanic 2" and has just entered the ice pack. Lets hope something more modern and rational is recoverable from the wreckage.

"Little known shrink and political hack Dr. Lyle Rossiter has released a new book entitled "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness" that is designed to feed the red meat hunger of Right Wing ideologues at a time when the Conservative movement is on the ropes after seven years of incompetence and corruption under George W. Bush.
Most of its claims are not so subtle reversals of the conclusions reached by four distinguished scholars that were funded by the US Government in a study to discover the roots of conservatism.
The report "Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition" cost $1.2 million and was supervised by the National Foundation as well as the National Institutes of Health. It found that conservatism is essentially a set of neuroses rooted in "fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity".
In an article published in the highly respected peer reviewed scholarly journal "Psychological Bulletin" the authors state:
"This intolerance of ambiguity can lead people to cling to the familiar, to arrive at premature conclusions, and to impose simplistic cliches and stereotypes."
Among the sufferers of this heart-breaking malady the researchers studied President George W. Bush and found him to be a "textbook case" of the madness. Among the early warning signs that he exhibits is "his preference for moral certainty and frequently expressed dislike of nuance." The scientists believe that it was Bush's aversion to shades of gray and the need for "closure" that led him to ignore intelligence that contradicted his beliefs about Iraq's non existent WMD's.
At the time that this report came out conservatives were outraged and dismissed the whole thing as merely the opinion of the scientists involved. It is highly amusing now to watch conservatives fall all over themselves to tout Dr. Rossiter unscientific and undocumented political scree simply because it gives them comfort in the face of their impending humiliation at the polls come November."


Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/250462#ixzz47SMHCrx4
I posted this in full because it does refute what ... (show quote)


I'm still waiting for someone to refute what Rossiter said. All I get is a bunch of deflection. Won't one of you even try? Are you really that pathetic? Pick anything he says and try to refute it. I dare you. Cowards.

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May 1, 2016 21:58:42   #
Onelostdog Loc: Restless Oregon
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
I'm still waiting for someone to refute what Rossiter said. All I get is a bunch of deflection. Won't one of you even try? Are you really that pathetic? Pick anything he says and try to refute it. I dare you. Cowards.


I wish you all the luck in the world attempting to get a liberal to come up with any kind of concrete answer. Spin, deflect, lie, coerce individuals with BS and insults then flame out and go hide in their safe place, all the typical wanker stuff that is so well known by everyone who is not a liberal/progressive. Once again lots of luck.

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May 1, 2016 22:59:03   #
katgiles
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
It's one of the few things liberals have in their arsenal. Try to discredit the source. I'll bet Moldy and Kev haven't even read the book, let alone the article I posted. Typical liberal BS.

For more than 35 years he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago.

Rossiter says the kind of liberalism being displayed by both Barack Obama and his Democratic primary opponent Hillary Clinton can only be understood as a psychological disorder.
It's one of the few things liberals have in their ... (show quote)


I enjoyed it very much. And, I did note that the author footnoted although I did not check out the sources. It sounded reasonable to me. Especially in light of the fact that all psychiatriay is = is guesswork. There is no actual way for a phiachiatrist to prove his hypothesis. Just saying.

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May 1, 2016 23:03:40   #
katgiles
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
I'm still waiting for someone to refute what Rossiter said. All I get is a bunch of deflection. Won't one of you even try? Are you really that pathetic? Pick anything he says and try to refute it. I dare you. Cowards.


I do not think there is a scientific way to prove or disprove any psychiatric points. For a psychiatrist to take it upon himself to try and explain why George Bush did thus and so is simply a hypothesis. It cannot be scientically proved or disproved. All psychiatry is a collection of hypotheses. Just saying.

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May 2, 2016 04:28:28   #
eden
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
I'm still waiting for someone to refute what Rossiter said. All I get is a bunch of deflection. Won't one of you even try? Are you really that pathetic? Pick anything he says and try to refute it. I dare you. Cowards.



You are right dear boy and we are all wrong, defeated by your immaculate logic, impeccable research and brilliant expositional writing. We shall retire in high dudgeon and leave you to savour your well deserved victory.

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May 2, 2016 04:33:25   #
eden
 
Onelostdog wrote:
I wish you all the luck in the world attempting to get a liberal to come up with any kind of concrete answer. Spin, deflect, lie, coerce individuals with BS and insults then flame out and go hide in their safe place, all the typical wanker stuff that is so well known by everyone who is not a liberal/progressive. Once again lots of luck.


You sound like an expert on wankers. Thank God we have you.

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May 2, 2016 06:09:11   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
eden wrote:
It's obvious from your posts you are not a doctor. Your specious analysis of a very complex issue and your boilerplate absolutist remedies betray an angry and disturbed mind. Luckily the vast majority of Americans including many Republicans do not agree with your right wing PC talking point driven agenda.


You never answered my question.....If an unborn fetus, viable or not, has not gained the right to life, then how can someone be charged with murder of that unborn fetus if he kills him, say in a drunk driving incident, even if the mother is not killed? I am all for abortion for any reason or NO reason before viability. But if you start trying to put excuses for it, like for the mother's health or for rape and incest, that opens another can of worms that pro-abortionists aren't going to like. There is never a medical indication to abort a normal viable fetus, PERIOD! In a case of rape or incest, say of a 13 yo, WHO gets to make the decision to abort?

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May 2, 2016 08:00:52   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
"Searching for 'Lyle Rossiter' + 'expert testimony', I learned that Dr Rossiter is not particularly good at his expert-witnessing grift; the Google provided no end of cases where courts had thrown out his testimony because he had no expertise and no evidence and was merely a hack with opinions that his clients had paid for.

In one memorable case, 'Believing that Dr. Rossiter’s testimony would do more harm than good, and after seeing the prosecutors effectively cross-examine some of the other defense witnesses, Foster’s attorneys decided not to present Dr. Rossiter’s testimony.'

I suspect that he has plenty of time to nurse his grievances, and to write books about the mental illnesses that cause the rest of the world to ignore his genius."

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May 2, 2016 09:15:20   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
Obama and Clinton are both sociopaths.

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May 2, 2016 09:58:17   #
skott Loc: Bama
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
FOREWORD.
Many of us are familiar with the left-wing’s penchant for referring to rightwingers
as “right-wing nuts”. It is harder for liberals to refer to those holding Ph.D.s as
“nuts”, but I have known some of the latter who were a little strange. However, would
a left-winger refer to a psychiatrist (who naturally holds an M.D.) as a nut? Especially
one who has forty years experience as a forensic psychiatrist (who diagnoses nuts).
It’s an interesting question, because what we have in this book, The Liberal
Mind5, by Lyle Rossiter, is a right-wing psychiatrist who shows persuasively that the
thought processes of the average liberal are, in fact, a mental disorder. It’s a disorder
not unlike a personality disorder. And, of course, Rossiter has dealt with personality
disorders for forty years, since criminals usually display them. So, here we have a
psychiatrist saying most liberals are nuts. And, he can prove it. What a turn of the
tables.

http://alphaaquila.org/Library/synopsis_rossiter.pdf
FOREWORD. br Many of us are familiar with the left... (show quote)


So basically Rossiter is saying that ISIS/ISIL is correct and sane, and that all of us more liberal countries that are opposing them are certifiably insane. While this is partially a troll, you need to understand that conservatives just as liberals are degrees from a point of view and not absolutes. (Sorry for the big boy words.) Obviously one man with a PHD in something does not get to set the rules for the whole of the science. Coes the DSM IV or DSM V say that liberalsim is a mental desease? The answer is no. He is just a biased hack that wrote a book. In psychiatry there is a long tradition of personal bias being one of the hardeset things to overcome. Obviously he has not.

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May 2, 2016 10:03:11   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
skott wrote:
So basically Rossiter is saying that ISIS/ISIL is correct and sane, and that all of us more liberal countries that are opposing them are certifiably insane. While this is partially a troll, you need to understand that conservatives just as liberals are degrees from a point of view and not absolutes. (Sorry for the big boy words.) Obviously one man with a PHD in something does not get to set the rules for the whole of the science. Coes the DSM IV or DSM V say that liberalsim is a mental desease? The answer is no. He is just a biased hack that wrote a book. In psychiatry there is a long tradition of personal bias being one of the hardeset things to overcome. Obviously he has not.
So basically Rossiter is saying that ISIS/ISIL is ... (show quote)

Exactly, Skott It can be safely stated that psychiatrists from all politically ideological views are guilty of personal bias.

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May 2, 2016 11:18:05   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Still waiting for someone to refute what he said. This is not about bias or anything else you people have mentioned. How about addressing what he actually said? What's so hard about that?

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May 2, 2016 11:38:48   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
Still waiting for someone to refute what he said. This is not about bias or anything else you people have mentioned. How about addressing what he actually said? What's so hard about that?

Quite frankly, any rebuttal would prove pointless, LBOH. Individual's ideological differences make it almost impossible to buy into opposing views or opinions. Just as many would dismiss Lossiter's personal views with reasonable rebuttals, their rebuttals would not be accepted by those with a conservative slant. People usually choose to believe what they wish...facts/truths be damned.

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May 2, 2016 12:06:44   #
skott Loc: Bama
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
OK. How about you try to refute what he said? Pick just one thing, and try to refute it. You can't.


I can. The DSM IV and the DSM V, do not recognize "liberalism" as a mental disorder.
He does not get to make up his own disorders. The medical community has to have a consesus on it.

Now it is your turn. Try to refute what I just said.

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May 2, 2016 12:57:51   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
skott wrote:
I can. The DSM IV and the DSM V, do not recognize "liberalism" as a mental disorder.
He does not get to make up his own disorders. The medical community has to have a consesus on it.

Now it is your turn. Try to refute what I just said.


A majority does not make right.

ROSSITER’S APPROACH.
His Analytical Procedure.
Rossiter’s book is analytical, as were the first five in this series of synopses
(including Weiss6). That is, he works downward from a basis of established fact, and
applies it to characterize and model the liberal mind. This is a deductive approach,
much like proving a mathematical theorem. Rossiter is possessed of all the historically
proven facts about personality disorders. He simply observes that by its beliefs and
actions, the liberal mind matches that established data.
By mind, he means the thought processes that are used by individual liberals.
He then generalizes to the corporate level of liberalism, from which proceed the liberal
agenda and political actions. His characterization is in psychiatric terms, in general,
and the terms of personality disorders, specifically. He models the liberal mind as a
personality disorder because its beliefs and resulting actions fit exactly the psychiatric
model of a personality disorder. His evidence supporting this model is the statements
and actions of liberal politicians and intellectuals, individually and corporately.

There is also the simple fact that every diagnosis we have, from the shrinks, originated as one persons opinion.

Now, refute that.

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