A Shameful Example of Voter ID Laws
Apr 29, 2016 13:00:44 #
OK. You all have discussed all the ways this is not a valid example of restrictive voter ID laws, and some of your comments are perhaps at least a bit valid. And I fully admit it is a manipulative meme.
But what of the individuals who have been voting without an ID for years, and are well-known in their small communities, who now must produce an ID?
And what about the Texas laws, wherein a valid student ID issued by the state is not adequate for a voting ID?
These laws are awfully akin to a poll tax, disproportionately impacting the poor. And anyway I think they do little to nothing to prevent purported voter fraud.
But what of the individuals who have been voting without an ID for years, and are well-known in their small communities, who now must produce an ID?
And what about the Texas laws, wherein a valid student ID issued by the state is not adequate for a voting ID?
These laws are awfully akin to a poll tax, disproportionately impacting the poor. And anyway I think they do little to nothing to prevent purported voter fraud.
Apr 29, 2016 13:04:03 #
PaulPisces wrote:
Probably not a lot in that age group, but that was... (show quote)
I guess you did not watch a video showing the fallacy of the statement, no voter fraud. It proved beyond a doubt that the voting machines can be rigged. What about in the last election there were more people to vote in some counties than were registered or another county where no votes were cast for the Republican candidate, that is not logical in any sense of the word.
Apr 29, 2016 13:10:46 #
bmac32 wrote:
That is just way too much for any liberal to look at past the first two sentences. They have only the ability to use their heart and not their brains.
Apr 29, 2016 13:30:19 #
TroubleshooterTim
Loc: People's Republic of Oregon
PaulPisces wrote:
What more can I say? This is shameful.
Shameful?
At the time you posted this she had already received her ID . . .
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/107-year-old-woman-who-danced-with-obamas-finally-gets-her-id/
Would you please spend a minute validating the information you put out there. This borders on willful deception of the truth, but certainly intellectual negligence on your part. Now that is shameful.
Apr 29, 2016 13:42:04 #
bmac32 wrote:
Dig deep, dig hard there most be 1000's of that age group.
There is no need to dig deep. If there is even one lone person denied the right to vote, due to some inane voter ID law, it's one too many.
Apr 29, 2016 15:17:59 #
oldroy
Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
PaulPisces wrote:
OK. You all have discussed all the ways this is n... (show quote)
I was in my 70s the first time we had to show our driver licenses to vote, but didn't think anyone was trying to hurt my feelings with that law. The funniest thing I have ever seen in a polling place was when a local judge, well known, tried to vote without his DL in hand. He lived over 15 miles from town which meant he drove in and that is illegal here since you are to have your DL with you when driving. He whined and howled for a short time and then drove back out for the license and came back and voted. All that for just a local, county and state election.
Yep those people even threatened not to let me vote the first time they asked me for the license and I refused. I had taught their kids and they knew me well but they were willing to do their jobs. Here in Kansas you need the DL or a ID they procure from the DMV people, the same place I get mine.
Apr 29, 2016 15:21:43 #
oldroy
Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
3jack wrote:
There is no need to dig deep. If there is even one lone person denied the right to vote, due to some inane voter ID law, it's one too many.
You wouldn't agree with me that motor voter is inane and also should have never happened, would you?
Apr 29, 2016 15:55:16 #
Be interesting to find out how she was "vetted" so she could get into the white house - no driver's license? How goes she cash checks or use a credit card?
Apr 29, 2016 16:12:01 #
oldroy
Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
Mainder01 wrote:
Be interesting to find out how she was "vetted" so she could get into the white house - no driver's license? How goes she cash checks or use a credit card?
I doubt she uses a credit card or writes checks. Her gender and the color of her skin gives her all kinds of goodies old white women wouldn't have.
Apr 29, 2016 17:08:40 #
These cases are going to be few and far between plus I'm sure there are hundreds of dead people that will cover her vote for hillary or bernie !
Problems like these are bound to arise anytime there is a effort to stop fraud and there will always be folks like you that like the idea that fraud will be harder to prove without the Voter ID thus the reason you jump on band wagons like this !
In the even she has lets says a family Bible which many have recorded marriages and births take the to the County Court house !
That's what I had to do to change the misspelling of my middle name !
Problems like these are bound to arise anytime there is a effort to stop fraud and there will always be folks like you that like the idea that fraud will be harder to prove without the Voter ID thus the reason you jump on band wagons like this !
In the even she has lets says a family Bible which many have recorded marriages and births take the to the County Court house !
That's what I had to do to change the misspelling of my middle name !
Apr 29, 2016 18:05:29 #
PaulPisces wrote:
Probably not a lot in that age group, but that was... (show quote)
Would you say that if there were voter fraud folks would be willing to expose it when their candidate was the beneficiary? I don't. Trust but verify. And that old woman...she can get an ID. I don't believe for the minutest second she couldn't.
Apr 29, 2016 18:07:55 #
4430 wrote:
These cases are going to be few and far between pl... (show quote)
I don't believe the woman can't get an ID. This doesn't smell right.
Apr 29, 2016 18:32:23 #
PaulPisces wrote:
OK. You all have discussed all the ways this is n... (show quote)
Just because someone has a valid student ID does not mean they are a registered voter in the state.
Apr 29, 2016 18:36:29 #
3jack wrote:
There is no need to dig deep. If there is even one lone person denied the right to vote, due to some inane voter ID law, it's one too many.
If there is even one case of voter fraud that means that there could be many more that have slipped by the states.
Apr 29, 2016 18:42:46 #
Louie27 wrote:
Just because someone has a valid student ID does not mean they are a registered voter in the state.
Of course not Louie. Neither does a valid drivers license nor a passport.
Registering to vote is a separate process which gets one on the rolls. The ID is simply to confirm identity at the polling place.
If the state issued the student ID is it any less valid for that purpose than another state-issued ID?
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