Immigration--NOT!
Dec 8, 2013 17:02:02 #
Brian Devon wrote:
A "free state"? Might help to define your terms. Patrick Henry, Mr. "Liberty" himself defined liberty...as the freedom to own and whip slaves....
As you have NO idea what the premise of the "free state" commentary was concerning, you input has no value.
Dec 8, 2013 17:03:19 #
Brian Devon wrote:
A "free state"? Might help to define your terms. Patrick Henry, Mr. "Liberty" himself defined liberty...as the freedom to own and whip slaves....
Just curious, where is that definition?
Dec 8, 2013 17:03:37 #
alex
Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
Brian Devon wrote:
A "free state"? Might help to define your terms. Patrick Henry, Mr. "Liberty" himself defined liberty...as the freedom to own and whip slaves....
you should either reread what she wrote or what you wrote or maybe both
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Dec 8, 2013 17:04:18 #
banjojack wrote:
I am sure what you meant to say is there is need for the Southern CA enclave to conclave. There is nothing like an enclave conclaving to get the juices flowing.
That is twice I have done that. Every time I type it; I look at it; think it looks wrong, and do not back check myself. :oops: :oops: :oops:
Dec 8, 2013 17:05:08 #
alex wrote:
you should either reread what she wrote or what you wrote or maybe both
He has decided to enter into commentary for which he failed to read the starting point.
Dec 8, 2013 17:05:43 #
banjojack wrote:
Just curious, where is that definition?
In his California dreamin?
Dec 8, 2013 17:06:20 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
Brian Devon wrote:
Shalom back to you. I'm curious though, where did you acquire your homophobia? Most American Jews, like their non-Jewish neighbors are in favor of gay marriage. They're insightful enough to realize someone else's choices don't put their family life at risk. What did your parents do to you? Just curious.
I am not homophobic.
"[A man] shall not lie with another man as [he would] with a woman, it is a to'eva" (Leviticus 18:22).
The term to'eva is usually translated as "abomination". However, because the word is used twice in regards to homosexuality, its second use has been understood by the Talmud to be a contraction of the words to'eh hu va, meaning "He is deviating from what is natural." (literally "He is wandering with it [from the natural way of the world]" since the Hebrew word to'e means "He is wandering", va "with it").
But, because you are not orthodoxy or hold any reverence to the Bible or Torah, this would not make sense to you. I just view a sexual relationship between same sex as unnatural. I do not hate a person who is homosexual, I do not exclude them from friendship, I just do not discuss their bedroom activities with them.
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Dec 8, 2013 17:12:38 #
ginnyt wrote:
I am not homophobic. br br " A man shall n... (show quote)
That's wise. I don't discuss ANYONE'S bedroom activities with them. Its not really any of my business.
Dec 8, 2013 17:14:37 #
ginnyt wrote:
I am not homophobic. br br " A man shall n... (show quote)
Basically he is a secularist.
Dec 8, 2013 17:19:02 #
Dec 8, 2013 17:20:57 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
Brian Devon wrote:
That's wise. I don't discuss ANYONE'S bedroom activities with them. Its not really any of my business.
I have on occasion. If a woman of my family comes to ask a question or is having problems and needs to have an adult or another woman to talk with, then I will discuss the issue. I did have the conversation with both my sons, before they became sexually active. Something that I think all parents are obligated to do as part of education. My mother and father had the discussion with me, so if the subject of sex is presented; it is not an embarrassment, it is a fact of life and should be dealt with as such. Having said that, I do not actively go out and ask people what their sexual proclivities. Their preferences have never been a precursor to friendship or acquaintanceship.
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Dec 8, 2013 17:21:45 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
Brian Devon wrote:
Fair enough. I plead guilty...you found me out!
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Dec 8, 2013 17:24:49 #
ginnyt wrote:
To whom are you replying? Please use the quote reply button.
Most probably me. I called him a secularist.
Dec 8, 2013 17:26:47 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
AuntiE wrote:
Basically he is a secularist.
Then as such, I find it difficult that a Liberal system would not fit.... it seems that many laws are now written to force compliance to birth control, recognition of gays in the military, abortion...... A true secularist would insist that these are personal matters and laws should never be made to force a person(s) into acceptance of such restrictions.
Please, AuntiE, educate me because I need guidance.
Dec 8, 2013 17:35:08 #
ginnyt wrote:
Then as such, I find it difficult that a Liberal system would not fit.... it seems that many laws are now written to force compliance to birth control, recognition of gays in the military, abortion...... A true secularist would insist that these are personal matters and laws should never be made to force a person(s) into acceptance of such restrictions.
Please, AuntiE, educate me because I need guidance.
Please, AuntiE, educate me because I need guidance.
Secularism is indifference and/or rejection of religion or religious values. He has clearly stated he does not follow the tenets of Judaism or the Bible, etc. It is a Libertarian who "would insist these are personal matters and laws should never be made..."
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