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Apr 21, 2016 19:18:56   #
son of witless
 
Obama and his brain dead voters continue to brag about all of the people who now have heath care insurance because of Obama care. Like everything our beloved leader does, it is what is left out of the hype that matters. It can be argued that Obamacare is in it's death spiral because the evil insurance companies are pulling out of the exchanges after losing their shirts. There are still some writers in financial publications who say this is all exaggerated. Maybe. Maybe like a Frankenstein monster Obamacare will continue to live on after it's Daddy is no longer on the political scene. What is not exaggerated are the high deductibles in Obamacare that limit it's usefulness.

This article from last November is still relevant.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/15/us/politics/many-say-high-deductibles-make-their-health-law-insurance-all-but-useless.html?_r=0

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Apr 21, 2016 19:52:43   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
Obama and his brain dead voters continue to brag about all of the people who now have heath care insurance because of Obama care. Like everything our beloved leader does, it is what is left out of the hype that matters. It can be argued that Obamacare is in it's death spiral because the evil insurance companies are pulling out of the exchanges after losing their shirts. There are still some writers in financial publications who say this is all exaggerated. Maybe. Maybe like a Frankenstein monster Obamacare will continue to live on after it's Daddy is no longer on the political scene. What is not exaggerated are the high deductibles in Obamacare that limit it's usefulness.

This article from last November is still relevant.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/15/us/politics/many-say-high-deductibles-make-their-health-law-insurance-all-but-useless.html?_r=0
Obama and his brain dead voters continue to brag a... (show quote)


The people who promote this garbage don't have to deal with it. That simple. Socialism is for the people, not the socialists.

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Apr 21, 2016 20:08:37   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
One of the big carriers is dropping out as of yesterday. It isn't known as yet how many states they will be leaving when the crying stops but I'll bet it's a bunch. This is just the tip of the spear our hateful despot of a president has thrust upon us.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-unitedhealth-leaving-obamacare-states-20160420-story.html.

And so it starts accelerating. The pace will quicken so stand by for more lies and deceit. In Trump terminology it will be HUUUUUGE.





son of witless wrote:
Obama and his brain dead voters continue to brag about all of the people who now have heath care insurance because of Obama care. Like everything our beloved leader does, it is what is left out of the hype that matters. It can be argued that Obamacare is in it's death spiral because the evil insurance companies are pulling out of the exchanges after losing their shirts. There are still some writers in financial publications who say this is all exaggerated. Maybe. Maybe like a Frankenstein monster Obamacare will continue to live on after it's Daddy is no longer on the political scene. What is not exaggerated are the high deductibles in Obamacare that limit it's usefulness.

This article from last November is still relevant.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/15/us/politics/many-say-high-deductibles-make-their-health-law-insurance-all-but-useless.html?_r=0
Obama and his brain dead voters continue to brag a... (show quote)

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Apr 21, 2016 20:10:00   #
son of witless
 
archie bunker wrote:
The people who promote this garbage don't have to deal with it. That simple. Socialism is for the people, not the socialists.


The high deductibles are the easiest to attack Obamacare with. The next liberal who defends Obamacare to me will have to tell me what deductible he has, and whether he has Obamacare. I am guessing the nuts who defend Obamacare are not on it.

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Apr 21, 2016 20:15:14   #
son of witless
 
missinglink wrote:
One of the big carriers is dropping out as of yesterday. It isn't known as yet how many states they will be leaving when the crying stops but I'll bet it's a bunch. This is just the tip of the spear our hateful despot of a president has thrust upon us.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-unitedhealth-leaving-obamacare-states-20160420-story.html.

And so it starts accelerating. The pace will quicken so stand by for more lies and deceit. In Trump terminology it will be HUUUUUGE.
One of the big carriers is dropping out as of yest... (show quote)


I listened to commentators on TV talking about Obamacare going into a death spiral. I decided to look online for stories. I found one guy, I think it was on Forbes who said the death spiral talk was premature. I don't think so. To keep Obamastein alive it will take massive inflows of taxpayer money. Even the big horned Rinos in the House and Senate will not go for that.

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Apr 21, 2016 20:17:09   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
The high deductibles are the easiest to attack Obamacare with. The next liberal who defends Obamacare to me will have to tell me what deductible he has, and whether he has Obamacare. I am guessing the nuts who defend Obamacare are not on it.


Screw em! I'm in a really nasty mood because my daughter had to have it, we helped pay for it, and now she is on her way to MEXICO to see a doctor who might help her!!!! MEXICO!!!! I'm beside myself right now!!!!!!!!!!

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Apr 21, 2016 22:07:17   #
Architect1776 Loc: Williamsport
 
son of witless wrote:
Obama and his brain dead voters continue to brag about all of the people who now have heath care insurance because of Obama care. Like everything our beloved leader does, it is what is left out of the hype that matters. It can be argued that Obamacare is in it's death spiral because the evil insurance companies are pulling out of the exchanges after losing their shirts. There are still some writers in financial publications who say this is all exaggerated. Maybe. Maybe like a Frankenstein monster Obamacare will continue to live on after it's Daddy is no longer on the political scene. What is not exaggerated are the high deductibles in Obamacare that limit it's usefulness.

This article from last November is still relevant.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/15/us/politics/many-say-high-deductibles-make-their-health-law-insurance-all-but-useless.html?_r=0
Obama and his brain dead voters continue to brag a... (show quote)


Obama Care is not the issue at all.
My wife's premiums nearly doubled and co pays did double but that still is not the issue.
The purpose of Obama Care is to disrupt the entire medical care system to the point of collapse. Then there will be enough idiots out there who will demand the Feds fix it. The answer will be to Federalize it and remove all private insurance completely. This is the ultimate goal. Very similar to Communism taking over in Russia followed a similar path.
Germany also went from a Kaiser to a failed democracy and then begged ultimately for a dictator and once in place could not remove him.
The only real solution is to do completely away with the stupid health insurance. Only have catastrophic insurance. Like you do not insure oil changes for your car so it should be for check ups etc. Will you be able to afford it? Of course. In fact I bet a quick check up like you get anyway will be about as much as many co pays are now. How do I know this? I hated the Phoenix VA,For good reason as you all know now, so I spoke with my wife's doctor, and asked how much did they make after the insurance discounted the bill, the cost of all the paperwork and staff and it came to $48 dollars. I said I would pay $50.00 for check ups and such for labs as well. It worked for 12 years for me until I moved to a better VA area.
So Obama care is just a step setting up government health care and a single payer system like other loser countries around the world.

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Apr 21, 2016 22:24:34   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Obama Care is not the issue at all.
My wife's premiums nearly doubled and co pays did double but that still is not the issue.
The purpose of Obama Care is to disrupt the entire medical care system to the point of collapse. Then there will be enough idiots out there who will demand the Feds fix it. The answer will be to Federalize it and remove all private insurance completely. This is the ultimate goal. Very similar to Communism taking over in Russia followed a similar path.
Germany also went from a Kaiser to a failed democracy and then begged ultimately for a dictator and once in place could not remove him.
The only real solution is to do completely away with the stupid health insurance. Only have catastrophic insurance. Like you do not insure oil changes for your car so it should be for check ups etc. Will you be able to afford it? Of course. In fact I bet a quick check up like you get anyway will be about as much as many co pays are now. How do I know this? I hated the Phoenix VA,For good reason as you all know now, so I spoke with my wife's doctor, and asked how much did they make after the insurance discounted the bill, the cost of all the paperwork and staff and it came to $48 dollars. I said I would pay $50.00 for check ups and such for labs as well. It worked for 12 years for me until I moved to a better VA area.
So Obama care is just a step setting up government health care and a single payer system like other loser countries around the world.
Obama Care is not the issue at all. br My wife's p... (show quote)


You are right! My doctor let me go to the lab for blood work. 30 bucks. She checked it, and me out for 45 bucks. She quit her private practice because of this crap!!

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Apr 22, 2016 00:04:32   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
archie bunker wrote:
Screw em! I'm in a really nasty mood because my daughter had to have it, we helped pay for it, and now she is on her way to MEXICO to see a doctor who might help her!!!! MEXICO!!!! I'm beside myself right now!!!!!!!!!!


Geez...that sucks! Obama care is a horrible joke.

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Apr 22, 2016 00:06:23   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Obama Care is not the issue at all.
My wife's premiums nearly doubled and co pays did double but that still is not the issue.
The purpose of Obama Care is to disrupt the entire medical care system to the point of collapse. Then there will be enough idiots out there who will demand the Feds fix it. The answer will be to Federalize it and remove all private insurance completely. This is the ultimate goal. Very similar to Communism taking over in Russia followed a similar path.
Germany also went from a Kaiser to a failed democracy and then begged ultimately for a dictator and once in place could not remove him.
The only real solution is to do completely away with the stupid health insurance. Only have catastrophic insurance. Like you do not insure oil changes for your car so it should be for check ups etc. Will you be able to afford it? Of course. In fact I bet a quick check up like you get anyway will be about as much as many co pays are now. How do I know this? I hated the Phoenix VA,For good reason as you all know now, so I spoke with my wife's doctor, and asked how much did they make after the insurance discounted the bill, the cost of all the paperwork and staff and it came to $48 dollars. I said I would pay $50.00 for check ups and such for labs as well. It worked for 12 years for me until I moved to a better VA area.
So Obama care is just a step setting up government health care and a single payer system like other loser countries around the world.
Obama Care is not the issue at all. br My wife's p... (show quote)


You got that right...you will find some defend all this mess with Obamacare, to the death!

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Apr 22, 2016 11:50:21   #
maureenthannon
 
To pay for Obamacare, the government took over 700 billion dollars from Medicare. Medicare is the insurance for those on Social Security, senior citizens and the disabled. These groups have the most diseases and health costs in America. How do they justify hurting the sickest Americans to give His Majesty control over every aspect of life for Americans?

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Apr 22, 2016 11:51:57   #
boatbob2
 
obamacare isn't the only thing that sucks,the moronic idiot,that came up with it,also sucks......

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Apr 22, 2016 12:26:43   #
BDOG
 
High deductible= Wealth redistribution- death sentence.

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Apr 22, 2016 18:52:54   #
docwill
 
son of witless wrote:
The high deductibles are the easiest to attack Obamacare with. The next liberal who defends Obamacare to me will have to tell me what deductible he has, and whether he has Obamacare. I am guessing the nuts who defend Obamacare are not on it.

Ask how much 'subsidy' they get. This is the fraud that disguises ridiculous premiums. A prime selling point was "taxpayers subsidize ER visits." We now pay more to subsidize premiums. And we get crushing deductibles...

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Apr 22, 2016 18:57:06   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
archie bunker wrote:
Screw em! I'm in a really nasty mood because my daughter had to have it, we helped pay for it, and now she is on her way to MEXICO to see a doctor who might help her!!!! MEXICO!!!! I'm beside myself right now!!!!!!!!!!


The ACA was enacted as a way to become a one payer system/socialist system. The only way that we can prevent that from happening is to elect any Republican for President.

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