jetson

I do not walk in darkness. I trust my life to be secure in Christ's hands. What ever he allows, to befall on me, He will see me through it. Will our nation perils get worse, since we have become as wicked or even wicker that Sodom and Gomorah. I can't say. But, I know what God did with Israel, for their wicked ways. The same with Sodom and Gororah. The Bible says, the old testament was given to us, for an example, and that is why I believe, if we stay on the road, we are traveling on, will lead to our downfall.

jetson

Never said religion was in our constitution. But, our constitution was created from many of the laws given to Moses. Can you deny that.

jetson

Never said religion was in our constitution. But, our constitution was created from many of the laws given to Moses. Can you deny that.

jetson

Well, I thank God, He forbids me call you a nasty name, and I don't have a desire to. You have a perfect right to accept Christ or not. I have never tried to force religion on nobody. As Christ said, if they don't accept His gospel, just get up and leave. That is what I do. You must be thinking of the muslim religion or the catholic religion that use to kill you if you didn't accept theirs. The muslims, will still kill you. Doing it, in Africa this very week. I have never known or heard of a Christian, trying to force his religion on anybody. There are many calling themselves Christian, who have, but they were not Christian. This country was only made great, because of the faith in Jesus Christ, who is the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the creator of everything, that is. Doesn't matter about your opinion, beliefs or mine either. He is God. So you and I are not going, to take Him out of the political system. How can you, when he places, our rulers in the office he is in. If He selects who the ruler is, then I would have to believe politics and religion are interwoven together. It seems, He gives us the leader we deserve. After all the pharaoh, Moses struggle with, did not God harden his heart.

DotsMan

The First Amendment to The Constitution:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;...."

Yes it is exclusionary, but remember, The Constitution is intended to protect "The People" from the government, not to protect the government from "The people".

This says that the Federal Government can neither establish a religion nor prevent their establishment and practice. It does NOT say that "The People" cannot attempt to influence the government based on their religious beliefs.

OH YES!! Before you bring up that "Jefferson's wall of separation" thing! His statement was in response to a church group that was in a dispute with a state government and asked Jefferson to intervene on its behalf basically saying, "Sorry folks, I'm not allowed to get involved." The federal government is not allowed to intervene is religious activity.

Unfortunately, the liberal Left and their supporting organizations like the ACLU have twisted the constitution into a tool to try to exclude Christianity from the public discourse.
You see, Christianity and Communism are mutually exclusive. Communism cannot exist where Christianity flourishes because Christianity promotes personal responsibility and initiative and Communism requires social uniformity and universal control of every ones lives by the government.

Thank you for your attention

jetson

It doesn't matter about mans constitution, Most of it come from God's laws. Religion is, already interwoven into it. God is in control of this world. He will allow Satan to go so far. Did he not allow Satan to go so far with Job. Sure, Satan is God of this world, but God will not allow him to go, but so far. If he had complete control, you and I would be dropping dead at this very instant. He would destroy everything on earth immediately. He hates God. He also hates you and I.

jetson

Atheist and unbelievers, like to quote famous people. Try quoting the greatest that ever lived. JESUS CHRIST.

jetson

Sure God is all about love. I don't know what Bible you have been reading. The Bible is about judgment also. Did He not judge Sodom and Gomorah. Did he not harden the heart of Mose's pharaoh. Did he not warp up the Babylonian's king's mind, when he boasted of all he had done. Did not Christ warn about the punishment of the wicked etc.. Seems to me, judgment and punishment of the wicked go along with, love that was being preached, in the Bible. The Bible is much more than love. It is also about judgment and punishment.

Onelittlevoice

All human being act on the basis of value. I choose or decide what is valuable to me. "This is a good thing for what I want or value". "This is a bad thing for what I want or value." All decisions are made that way. Sometimes it also may be the lesser of two evils, or the greater of two goods. In any case, it is always based on value. BIG question! Whose values do we follow? Historical character Jesus?, Mohammed, Moses, Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, Caeser, Napoleon, Hitler,? Current characters? Who? Do we combine all? What happens when they are in conflict? Do we "follow" no one and everyone do as they please? Those with power and guns stop those who "go to far".
It is impossible for a human being to escape making choices. On what value basis are they made.

rumitoid

The Judgment of God comes from love, jetson; you can't separate them. Love contains all of God's nature.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Yes I CAN! I know you're wrong because for starters the first amendment. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Whereas, Moses clearly provided the 10 Commandments that state (ironically the 1st commandment): “You shall have no other gods before me". Have you ever played fantasy football?, I think you are a fantasy Christian! Maybe you go to church once and while, but the reality is: You don't even read or pay attention to either the Constitution or the bible. You're just an idiot with an opinion instead of facts.

Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA

Hate to interrupt here, but how can you say that you did NOT say religion is in our constitution, since you say our Constitution was CREATED from many of the laws given to Moses. If I took apples and made a pie, the pie would be apple.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

You can interrupt any time when you're right...thus disrupting the cacophony of idiots that have opinions instead facts. This guy is such a clown.
That being said: we are a secular nation designed to protect the rights of every religion regardless of whether we agree with it or not. Not impose a religion: we tolerate it, period.

Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA

Perhaps you don't walk in darkness, but my perception is that you see very little hope for this country. Who am I to say, but you are willing to state in so many words in your initial premise that you believe that God chose Obama to be our leader because (my perception is that you see Obama as evil) we have fallen by the wayside as a country and are getting our just desserts, a clever way by God to punish us for how we as a Nation are acting. Well, just desserts in some ways, perhaps, because Obama has made some not so bright moves, but in no way in line with hey, Obama is our God chosen leader and we get what we deserve -- rapes of children, etc., etc., etc. I gently remind you that God gave us free will; therefore God did NOT choose Obama, nor did he just "allow" it. Free will is how it came about that Obama became President. We all voted. It's as simple as that, God gives us free will/free choice and when we voted, we got Obama. My opinion.

MrEd Loc: Georgia

I see you quote the first amendment, but do you KNOW what an established religion is? Yes, this country was founded on Christian principals and as such this nation was free and had more freedoms then at any other time in history. Does the fact that the Supreme Court lie to you have any bearing on how you act? This nation was established as a Christian nation and as such it will only last so long as it is held to Christian standards.

First of all, An established religion is one mandated by a government and EVERYONE has to tithe to it even if they do not belong to it and they were told how much to tithe. We had established churches before the constitution did away with them, BUT, the states are still free to establish a religion if they so desire, just not the federal government. This is to stop churches like the Church of England from controlling our lives. We have various means of controlling the state governments that we do not have with the federal government. Read the first amendment again and especially the VERY FIRST WORD. It says CONGRESS shall make no laws, but that does not include the states.

One thing that REALLY bothers be about a lot of Christians is that they are more interested in sitting on the side lines waiting for the second coming then stopping this government from running all over us. Nothing in the Bible says we should just sit here and take it, in fact it is quite the opposite. We should be watching this government and making sure it holds itself to our constitution and especially the SCOTUS. There are a pack lying frauds on that bench and they need to be taken down, but will they. Not likely, since most people in this country do not know or understand our constitution.

In order to understand the constitution, you also need to understand the Federalist Papers and I will wager that most people don't have any idea of what I am talking about or what they say and why you need to know them. The Supreme Court decisions using the 14th amendment to make abortion legal and all the other garbage they have come up with is totally against our constitution, but I would wager again that very few could tell me why. It is, after all, our responsibility to hold this government to the constitution and if we don't, then we have no one to blame but ourselves.