no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Since the 1970's the effort has been major to indoctrinate the younger generation that all sexual attractions were equally valid and should be acted upon. It has been very effective, from Kinsey to the Franklyn School to Marcusese the effort has been relentless.Now we have a younger population that believes that 30% of the population is homosexual that you can actually have a womans' brain in a mans' body and that it is great to start being sexually active at ten to twelve. Movies, chat lines, modern "literature" and the school system have all joint together toward this end Act Up leader Stephen Warren stated it well in 1987 Warning to the Homophobes
Henceforth homosexuality will be spoken of in your churches and synagogues as an honorable state.

You can either let us marry people of the same sex [color=red] or better yet abolish marriage all together[/color

You will be expected to offr marriages that bless our sexual arrangements. you will also instruct your people in both homosexual and heterosexual behavior, and you will go out of your way to make certain that homosexual youths are allowed to date, attend religious functions together openly display what ever affection they wish, and enjoy each others sexuality as they see fit.

If the older people in your midst object, you will deal with them sternly, making certain that they renounce their ugly and ignorant homophobia in public of suffer public shame and humiliation.

You will also make certain that laws are passed forbidding discrimination against homosexuals and heavy punishments are assessed for disobedience.

Finally we will in all likelihood want to expunge a number of passages from your Scriptures and rewrite others, eliminating preferential treatment of marriage and using words that will allow for homosexual interpretations of passages describing biblical lovers such as Ruth and Boaz, or Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. Warning, if these things do not come to pass uickly, we will subject Orthodox Jews and Christians to the most sustained hatred and vilification in recent memory.
Remember, we have captured the liberal establishment and the press. We have already beaten you on a number of battlefields. You have neither the faith nor the strength to fight us, so you might as surrender now.

They have already changed the David and Jonathen story to claim they were sexual partners. they are demanding we give up and allow destruction of our culture so that the Marxist based propaganda can take other the Western civilization.
This was originally published in THE ADVOCATE the nation's most prominent gay magazine at the time.
THEY ARE SUCCEEDING. Do we have the faith to stand up to this evil masquerading as a civil rights issue?

Carol Kelly

That was Ireland and I saw that. I found it discouraging. Since one of my children was almost blown up leaving a restaurant in London. I wasn't so very surprised. As I said, it depends who are asked.

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

Please explain how your child's experience in London has anything to do with marriage equality?

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

And I agree with you on one thing. It does depend on who one asks. Asking fearful, selfish individuals to support marriage equality generally won't get the same response as when asking intelligent confident folks.

Carol Kelly

The Irish have done some dumb and very damaging things. That was a bumb vote. It was dumb when they helped the Germans in WWII, etc., etc. we were discussing queers here, weren't we.

TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon

The differences between the political mechanisms of ancient Athens and those of America today do not erase the similarities of mentality and sensibility popular rule creates in its citizens. Most important is the way democracy leads to radical egalitarianism: the belief, as Aristotle put it, “that those who are equal in any respect are equal in all respects; because men are equally free, they claim to be absolutely equal.” Because citizens are equal in their possession of political rights and some level of access to the machinery of the state, they then desire to be equal in every way. Yet everyday experience shows that there exist real differences of talent, ability, beauty, brains, hard work, and sheer luck among people, and these differences account for their varying levels of economic and social success. Hence the desire to use the coercive power of the state to level these differences, especially through the appropriation and redistribution of wealth through government distributed entitlements. The right to equality of opportunity then becomes the right to equality of result, with the power of the state as the instrument of achieving that utopian goal, usually at the expense of freedom.


source: http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/164756/explaining-democrats-success-bruce-thornton

Carol Kelly

I can accept that. But I'm normal.

Carol Kelly

That was brilliant!

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Well, we know you can cut and paste, but apparently, you don't understand English...

....so, I guess you just stick to screwing your goats and sheep then....

buffalo Loc: Texas

You do not understand, period. Certain unalienable rights are endowed by their Creator....not government. But, I wouldn't expect a paste eater like you to understand.

Your ad hominem attacks prove nothing.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Well, you introduced the ad hominem attacks, calling me a faggot, so I thought reach down to your level give you something.

You believe you understand, but you don't....guess that's why the senate isn't knocking on your door for Anton's replacement.

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

You call that interesting? I call it a foul ball. There are many organizations that do not pay tax's. Are the LBGT people helping out the poor? I think not! Are they striving for equality of all? I think not! Are they looking to help any other group of people besides themselves? I think not! They only want people to respect their so-called values and do not respect values of other groups.

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

No body is saying that they urge any of us into gay marriage. But they want us to go along with whatever they want but will not go along with other people religious teachings. Where is that being as accommodating to others as they want us to accommodate their preferences.

Ricktloml

[quote=no propaganda please]Since the 1970's the effort has been major to indoctrinate the younger generation that all sexual attractions were equally valid and should be acted upon. It has been very effective, from Kinsey to the Franklyn School to Marcusese the effort has been relentless.Now we have a younger population that believes that 30% of the population is homosexual that you can actually have a womans' brain in a mans' body and that it is great to start being sexually active at ten to twelve. Movies, chat lines, modern "literature" and the school system have all joint together toward this end Act Up leader Stephen Warren stated it well in 1987 Warning to the Homophobes
Henceforth homosexuality will be spoken of in your churches and synagogues as an honorable state.

You can either let us marry people of the same sex [color=red] or better yet abolish marriage all together[/color

You will be expected to offr marriages that bless our sexual arrangements. you will also instruct your people in both homosexual and heterosexual behavior, and you will go out of your way to make certain that homosexual youths are allowed to date, attend religious functions together openly display what ever affection they wish, and enjoy each others sexuality as they see fit.

If the older people in your midst object, you will deal with them sternly, making certain that they renounce their ugly and ignorant homophobia in public of suffer public shame and humiliation.

You will also make certain that laws are passed forbidding discrimination against homosexuals and heavy punishments are assessed for disobedience.

Finally we will in all likelihood want to expunge a number of passages from your Scriptures and rewrite others, eliminating preferential treatment of marriage and using words that will allow for homosexual interpretations of passages describing biblical lovers such as Ruth and Boaz, or Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. Warning, if these things do not come to pass uickly, we will subject Orthodox Jews and Christians to the most sustained hatred and vilification in recent memory.
Remember, we have captured the liberal establishment and the press. We have already beaten you on a number of battlefields. You have neither the faith nor the strength to fight us, so you might as surrender now.

They have already changed the David and Jonathen story to claim they were sexual partners. they are demanding we give up and allow destruction of our culture so that the Marxist based propaganda can take other the Western civilization.
This was originally published in THE ADVOCATE the nation's most prominent gay magazine at the time.
THEY ARE SUCCEEDING. Do we have the faith to stand up to this evil masquerading as a civil rights issue?[/quote]

I believe you have nailed it. Th new support for ALL things progressive is because of decades of propaganda, indoctrination, and misinformation. If the truth was being told the support wouldn't be near as high

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

There is also science that proves those that have thoughts about the same sex can be helped if they want. To most people, the thought of same sex marriage is not acceptable. Through out the ages normal has been a man and a woman as married couples. They could have had the same rights as man/woman couple by having a civil union. This was done in Arizona before all of the great push for marriage for gays.