Ve'hoe

Ask the American Indian movement guys (AIM) they are all around or a group called "One People",, if they have a Wicasa Wakan around,,, Wicasa = man Wakan= medicine or spirit,,, a holy man.....pronounced a Weechassa Walk on many are trained,,, and the real ones have the claw marks in their chest from the sun dance,,, a lot of tribes combine their festivals and pow wows they are a lot of fun!! Go a few times and folks will get to know you ,, and just like before you will be one of the family,,, just bring a gift of tobacco for the wakan,,,, always bring a gift and a dessert or meal for after ward,,,,,like a pot luck..

Ve'hoe

I get some ribbing at the pow wows,,, "Your name is White Ni---???" but then they are friendly,,, guess they think that is punishment enough,,,,

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Thank you! I would ask my friend, but I do not want him to feel he has to find a place, which would be how he and I think of each other. I once made the mistake of admiring a band he wore, and he insisted that I take it. So, I vowed that I would not put him in a spot like that again. We too bring gifts to the Rabbi when visiting, so bringing a desert and tobacco would not be hard to remember. I will start my search tonight. Thank you. Perhaps when you are listening; tell God that I appreciate him putting you in my path to guide me now that I am searching for answers and His voice.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

LMAO. It is enough punishment! :lol: :lol:

Ve'hoe

NO NO!! That is the INDIAN way,,, when you don't ask again you take away his ability to be a "Big man." Giving is a BIG deal in the Indian world,,, you share everything,,,, eventually your "stuff" comes back around,,,

It is not "putting him on the spot" IT is allowing him the opportunity to contribute part of HIM to YOU,,,, thank him for this part of him,,,, and bring something to trade of YOU,,, then ask anything you like, he will give it to you cause it makes him feel good! Don't deny that to him, it is important to injuns!!!

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I never though of that. Thank you. When I visit I always bring something....especially for the heads of the house and the children. Food is always shared, flowers for the woman of the house and after lots of hugging, we settle into talking or just listening. I love to just listen. Many times I have to dry my eyes from laughing too hard. It is always sad to say good by. I think he knows how much I care for him and his family, but I never thought that not asking for to deny him. I will make amends. Thanks again.

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AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

His Sandra Fluke comments were so rude. Having said that Ed Schultz suggesting he wished Laura somebody (Fox News) should be in a grave is a bit more egregious. I tend toward CSPAN; however, my perception has been MSNBC tends to wish death and defecation more often on people.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

Absolutely waiting for that; however, there had best be a defibrillator nearby IF such happens.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Neither of you, Larry or Ginnyt, are difficult to read or digest! I consider both of you to be quite competent as writers and thinkers.

This does not qualify as our always agreeing, but certainly expresses my appreciation of both those thoughts, and your ability to convey them. And, we often, do agree!

You are both to be admired as contributors to the forum. :thumbup: :mrgreen:

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

I might add, this has been one interesting thread, for me, at least. The posts of individuals, and the exchanges between them, have been illuminating, for me, in that I am always enthralled with the knowledge of others on subjects I am somewhat lacking in that knowledge.

Although all are to commended, I find your posts, Ve'hoe,
extemely interesting. Your background is so diverse, and you are so forthright in speaking openly about everything, I am fascinated, often, by your input/insight.

I am concerned, however, about those militant girl scouts! :lol:

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I agree, with your assessment of VeHoe, and so enjoyed the off the subject chat. I am sure that many did not appreciate me taking so much space to explore tribal thinking, but the diversion was so rewarding.

It was refreshing and I learned from VeHoe. I admire his ability to bridge issues and still remain clear on his point. All without anger!

Ve'hoe

Being a "half-breed" I have had to walk a narrow road between two worlds,,,, I saw the futility of the "sitting on the rez" mentality,,,early on,,, also saw the stupidity and deceptive lies behind the "fight the evil white man" groups.
I went off to college,,, got bored went into the USMC as a pilot and around the world, and into war.

I found a curious factor in "choosing" the crappiest jobs that nobody else wanted,,, they were FUN and you got into the darnedest situations,,, I got a reputation for never refusing a deal good or bad,,,, kind of like the Jim Carey "yes Man" movie,,,, I actually tried to change that one career to save a marriage,, but it didn't work,,,, got divorced and that wife left me anyway... so I hammered out a medical degree, stayed in the reserves,,, 911 occurred and all hell broke loose and drug me back to war...
I retired, a couple more scars for character, and I will be back in no time,,, only slightly damaged.

One thing for sure,, I don't listen to whiners who say they cannot "change" their situation,,, they can,, they just don't have the guts to really do it!! They are right "it isn't EASY" but it can be done....I've done it.

The best revenge on an Ex wife is to become a Dr and marry a much more attractive wife than she was!!! I never gave up on life,,, still haven't,,, somebody is going to have to take it from me,,,,

Ve'hoe

I do read David and Saul,,,, Joshua was a zealot!! Hard to take someone that warlike,,, but he was a man of God!!
War on a "heavenly" level is beyond the comprehension of men,,, we fail at it, just like we fail at our religion,,
Good suggestions!! Good thread...

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

:thumbup: :mrgreen: SEMPER FI, Marine!

I shoulda known! :wink:

Ve'hoe

The JAR head is hard to hide,,,, it is more than "Just the shape of my Head"