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Dec 4, 2013 03:16:07   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
stymie wrote:
I too have written my representatives and received those same letters. Our only strength is in numbers and as I eluded too the only way I know to achieve that is some sort of pyramid scheme where each of us contact X number of people and ask they contact same and so on with a defined agenda to garner support. I have never done anything like this and was just throwing out a suggestion. I too feel strongly that something must be done and it has to start somewhere. Everything has a beginning, a middle and a end. This could be a beginning. I did not intend to solicit anyone's ire but somehow succeeded. I'm still open for discussion on whether or not this is viable. Lets sleep on it, but pursue the alternatives.
I too have written my representatives and received... (show quote)


What would be best?? I suggest that each major city have a march. If a few thousand or more show up with appropriate signs in each major city in the USA, then logistics would be easier to manage. Let us think about an email that could be sent to all our friends, something generic. A time and date for the "show of force" a POC at each one, someone to contact the local news (tv and radio) perhaps a few speakers. This could work. Of course someone would need to coordinate permits, contact the local fire department and police for support and ensure that the Left does not get violent....many things to consider.

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Dec 4, 2013 03:34:58   #
rumitoid
 
ginnyt wrote:
What would be best?? I suggest that each major city have a march. If a few thousand or more show up with appropriate signs in each major city in the USA, then logistics would be easier to manage. Let us think about an email that could be sent to all our friends, something generic. A time and date for the "show of force" a POC at each one, someone to contact the local news (tv and radio) perhaps a few speakers. This could work. Of course someone would need to coordinate permits, contact the local fire department and police for support and ensure that the Left does not get violent....many things to consider.
What would be best?? I suggest that each major ci... (show quote)


Could work for whom, ginnyt? But the doopleganger will naturally agree to whatever. A march for" Insanity Reigns" however has me in total agreement: triplets.

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Dec 4, 2013 06:02:51   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
great grama wrote:
My senator, Amy Klobuchar, always keeps in touch and responds to my letters. Betty McCullough in the House does the same. I know there are idiots in both houses, but the people voted them in.

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You chose to not answer my question, which was, do your officials DO what they say they will do? THAT should be the gauge by which we elect them.

Mine keep in touch too. They do, after all, want to get re-elected. And once in a blue moon one will respond to my letters. Do they DO anything for me? No, they don't. Do they vote the way most of their constituents want? No, they don't.

You obviously still trust the ballot box which has been corrupted for a long time now. There is now and has for as long as I know been massive cheating. To be perfectly frank, I don't trust most elections. And our parties don't even let us voters select who to run on the ticket. THEY decide for us.

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Dec 4, 2013 10:13:57   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
stymie wrote:
That may be the first time I ever agreed with anything you said and can only assume you meant the few liberals that are currently making all the decisions. BTW, how's that working for you?


I am not doing any worse than I did under Dickie, Ronnie, or the Bushes.

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Dec 4, 2013 10:34:32   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I am not doing any worse than I did under Dickie, Ronnie, or the Bushes.

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But you WILL when the final bill arrives.

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Dec 4, 2013 11:12:12   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Tasine wrote:
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But you WILL when the final bill arrives.


When the bills come in I pay them. There are many bills that it would be nice if they were smaller but I pay them all & try to control those that I can.

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Dec 4, 2013 11:21:55   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
ginnyt wrote:
What would be best?? I suggest that each major city have a march. If a few thousand or more show up with appropriate signs in each major city in the USA, then logistics would be easier to manage. Let us think about an email that could be sent to all our friends, something generic. A time and date for the "show of force" a POC at each one, someone to contact the local news (tv and radio) perhaps a few speakers. This could work. Of course someone would need to coordinate permits, contact the local fire department and police for support and ensure that the Left does not get violent....many things to consider.
What would be best?? I suggest that each major ci... (show quote)


Perhaps If one wishes to have ones views listened to it would be one on one in how one interacts with others on a day to day basis.

If you can not do it that way perhaps your message ism/t as good as you think it is.

I think being on a site like this is a good way to find out if you can reach out to others & sell your views. Before you take to the streets..

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Dec 4, 2013 11:55:00   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Perhaps If one wishes to have ones views listened to it would be one on one in how one interacts with others on a day to day basis.

If you can not do it that way perhaps your message ism/t as good as you think it is.

I think being on a site like this is a good way to find out if you can reach out to others & sell your views. Before you take to the streets..


My daily interactions are one-on-one and on rare occasions disagreements do occur, and in the rare case where emotions run high no one in the group resort to crass remarks. It is kept on an intellectual level. Many of those discussions are of current events, proposed actions, and general nonsensical chatter. Therefore, I would say that my communication skills are at least on par with yours. I rarely try to "sell" my point of view and when I find myself in such a position, I research the course of actions. I am not sure what you are trying to say with " your message ism/t as good as you think it is." I value your opinion. Because your comments are somewhat cryptic and I am failing to understand your point, would you elaborate to eliminate possible misunderstandings?

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Dec 4, 2013 12:27:01   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
ginnyt wrote:
My daily interactions are one-on-one and on rare occasions disagreements do occur, and in the rare case where emotions run high no one in the group resort to crass remarks. It is kept on an intellectual level. Many of those discussions are of current events, proposed actions, and general nonsensical chatter. Therefore, I would say that my communication skills are at least on par with yours. I rarely try to "sell" my point of view and when I find myself in such a position, I research the course of actions. I am not sure what you are trying to say with " your message ism/t as good as you think it is." I value your opinion. Because your comments are somewhat cryptic and I am failing to understand your point, would you elaborate to eliminate possible misunderstandings?
My daily interactions are one-on-one and on rare o... (show quote)


I would say that what you do now is what I was trying to say.

I think the first step in dealing with people is to be at ease & non confronting.

It is in our day to day life that we seek & need an understanding with those we interact with.

If we have that, the other things we can put up with while we seek ways to change them.

We may find that the changes need may not change all that much.

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Dec 4, 2013 12:59:15   #
stymie
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I would say that what you do now is what I was trying to say.

I think the first step in dealing with people is to be at ease & non confronting.

It is in our day to day life that we seek & need an understanding with those we interact with.

If we have that, the other things we can put up with while we seek ways to change them.

We may find that the changes need may not change all that much.


The perception is in the eye of the beholder, meaning since you are content with the status quo you see no need for big changes wherein my perception is that we are on the path to destruction and continuing on that path will drive this country head-on into unimaginable consequences. This president is narcissistic at best and may believe he his doing the right thing but his background does not qualify him for the position he holds. That's my nice way of saying he either has no idea of what he is doing or is purposely taking us down the path of destruction with help from others. Either way the end result will be the same.

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Dec 4, 2013 13:24:46   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
stymie wrote:
The perception is in the eye of the beholder, meaning since you are content with the status quo you see no need for big changes wherein my perception is that we are on the path to destruction and continuing on that path will drive this country head-on into unimaginable consequences. This president is narcissistic at best and may believe he his doing the right thing but his background does not qualify him for the position he holds. That's my nice way of saying he either has no idea of what he is doing or is purposely taking us down the path of destruction with help from others. Either way the end result will be the same.
The perception is in the eye of the beholder, mean... (show quote)


Well first off that post was an answer to someone else.

I have been an adult for almost 60 years.

I am not overly pleased with lots of things.

I live my life mostly day to day & find that I am able to adjust to most things that keep changing.

While there may be things this President is doing that may not please me & there are others that have done things that displease me I never felt then or now that any of them deserved the treatment you wish to put upon this President.

If you where to spent your time looking for some one you could support and offer to the people what they wish to see. then maybe tings would be more to your liking.

In the mean time I would suggest that you take a deeper look around & see just what the problems really are & just where they are coming from.

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Dec 4, 2013 13:30:09   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Well first off that post was an answer to someone else.

I have been an adult for almost 60 years.

I am not overly pleased with lots of things.

I live my life mostly day to day & find that I am able to adjust to most things that keep changing.

While there may be things this President is doing that may not please me & there are others that have done things that displease me I never felt then or now that any of them deserved the treatment you wish to put upon this President.

If you where to spent your time looking for some one you could support and offer to the people what they wish to see. then maybe tings would be more to your liking.

In the mean time I would suggest that you take a deeper look around & see just what the problems really are & just where they are coming from.
Well first off that post was an answer to someone ... (show quote)


Wherein you did not address your comment to my friend, he echoes my opinions of not only the course we are presently on, but those of Obama. I am respectful of your opinions and encourage you to keep posting. However, regardless of how vigorously you defend the status quo it is not a future that I personally want for my grandchildren.

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Dec 4, 2013 13:40:40   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Well first off that post was an answer to someone else.

I have been an adult for almost 60 years.

I am not overly pleased with lots of things.

I live my life mostly day to day & find that I am able to adjust to most things that keep changing.

While there may be things this President is doing that may not please me & there are others that have done things that displease me I never felt then or now that any of them deserved the treatment you wish to put upon this President.

If you where to spent your time looking for some one you could support and offer to the people what they wish to see. then maybe tings would be more to your liking.

In the mean time I would suggest that you take a deeper look around & see just what the problems really are & just where they are coming from.
Well first off that post was an answer to someone ... (show quote)


Did you defend Bush as readily as you do Obama?

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Dec 4, 2013 13:55:32   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Tasine wrote:
Did you defend Bush as readily as you do Obama?


I think if you look closer at my views on Obama it is the running him down with so little respect that I find offensive.

As to Bush I didn't defend him but I didn't go around running him down.

That as I see it makes quite a difference.

Bush time is over & work is sill going on from the time he was in office correcting things.

So it with Obama who has moved on & some one new will try to do the job.

It may be some one of your choosing of mine but in either case it is likely to be just more of the same.

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Dec 4, 2013 15:12:16   #
stymie
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I think if you look closer at my views on Obama it is the running him down with so little respect that I find offensive.

As to Bush I didn't defend him but I didn't go around running him down.

That as I see it makes quite a difference.

Bush time is over & work is sill going on from the time he was in office correcting things.

So it with Obama who has moved on & some one new will try to do the job.

It may be some one of your choosing of mine but in either case it is likely to be just more of the same.
I think if you look closer at my views on Obama it... (show quote)


When we have little or no expectations of change then we will not be disappointed. If that is the way you want this country to go then so be it for you. I, on the other hand am disappointed and want change, big change from the last five years, I will not spend time arguing over whose fault it is but must say for the record I strongly disagree with you in your evaluation that it is Bush's fault. The next three years will be different for you and all of us if this President continues unimpeded down the road to his perceived utopia. I have covered this in great detail in other posts so I will not repeat myself here but its going to get BAD. Hope you will be able to pay your bills then. Of course he will blame the Republicans as always and you will accept that as truth because your president said it. BTW, you can keep that too, period! GET IT?

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