Ricko wrote:
woz75-your response to Roy is an indication that you do not have a clue. As he has stated, Roy happens to be a common sense liberal who is not buying grandma Hillary's BS. The real idiots are those supporting the democrat poster child who is under FBI Criminal Investigation. Now one has to be totally devoid of both character and common sense to go down that road. Nobody on the Conservative side is being chased by the Sheriff. Good Luck America !!!
Bernie or Bust Over 50,000 Sanders Supporters Pledge to Never Vote for Hillary
Michael Krieger
Liberty Blitzkrieg
March 4, 2016
Hillary is the candidate of the corrupt establishment. The status quo wants Hillary in the White House so the parasitic gravy train can roll on. DNC head and Florida Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is one of these people. She isnt interested in reform, because reform wouldnt advance her personal interests. She wants things to stay the way they are, because its working great for her.
Genuine liberals are finally starting to see these people for the frauds they are, which is why the Democratic Party is currently splitting in two.
On one side there are those who understand United States policy doesnt need a tweak here or there it needs to be hauled off to the emergency room immediately. The so-called elites in the Democratic Party are just as disconnected and clueless as their Republican counterparts. Instead of accepting that paradigm level reform is required, they merely double down on their support of cronyism and rent-seeking.
I think Donald Trump is one of the most underrated presidential candidates in U.S. history, while Hillary Clinton is likely the most overrated. Democrats across America will very shortly experience extreme buyers remorse as Hillary melts into a puddle of Goldman Sachs checks in the face of the political hurricane that is Donald Trump.
Over the past severals weeks, Ive been hammering home the obvious fact that Hillary Clinton is a far weaker candidate than Sanders against Donald Trump in the general election. Ive been taken aback by the massive traffic generated by the recent post, Why Hillary Clinton Cannot Beat Donald Trump, and I think it speaks volumes about how passionately people feel about the topic. Its by far the most popular piece Ive published this year, with over 23,000 reads on Liberty Blitzkrieg alone.
One of the things I mentioned in that piece was the fact that a significant number of Sanders supporters will never vote for Hillary. This sentiment is so intense theres even a website advocating Revolt Against Plutocracy that is collecting pledges from Sanders supporters to vote Green Party should Hillary get the nomination. This is a brilliant strategy since a third party vote makes it much easier to quantify the exact numbers of people revolting against the DNC. 53,000 voters have already made the pledge.
Whats worse for the Democratic establishment, Im consistently encountering commentary from Bernie supporters thatthey would rather vote for Trump than Hillary. While this wont represent the majority, its likely to be material. In contrast, there probably arent more than a handful of Hillary supporters who would vote for Trump over Bernie. This is one reason Sanders is a much stronger general election candidate than Clinton.
To see what I mean, lets turn to the Washington Times:
The movement is called Bernie or Bust, and it means just that: If Sen. Bernard Sanders of Vermont loses the Democratic presidential nomination, a group of his supporters will either write in his name in the general election or consider casting their ballot for a Republican.
The one thing they certainly wont do: Vote for Hillary Clinton.
More than 50,000 people already have signed up at the Revolt Against Plutocracy, pledging to vote for the Green Party candidate in the general election or write in Mr. Sanders name if Mrs. Clinton wins the Democratic nomination. Other groups, such as Grassroots Action for Bernie, are taking to social media, using Facebook and Twitter to try to get the Bernieorbust hashtag trending.
We Bernie fans just wont vote for her, said Steph Faulkner, who hails from Mr. Sanders home state of Vermont and is an avid Sanders supporter. We are sick of the media telling us we have too. We dont like her. We dont trust her. We believe she is a Wall Street puppet. There is nothing they can say that will make us vote for such a woman. I mean, heck, people would vote for Trump over her, and he is a monster. What does that tell you? It tells me she is seen as the bigger evil. Trump is less evil than Hillary.
More than 50 percent of Sanders supporters will never vote for her, Chris Fox, a Sanders supporter in Fairfield, Ohio, said in an email. That is why she will not beat Trump. Weigh the Republican hate for her (motivation to vote) against the Democrat progressive liberals hate for the status quo (unmotivated to vote for her), and we have a major problem on our hands. Only Sanders can beat Trump, but thats not why we are voting for him. Hes the only person we trust with the job.
The sentiment was by no means universal. At the polls Tuesday, a number of Sanders supporters told The Washington Times that despite tension between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Sanders, they would vote for the former secretary of state if only to stop Republicans.
Any of the Republicans would move us more toward the killing of civilians and a more interventionist foreign policy than what weve seen from the Obama administration, said a 30-year-old woman voting in Atlanta.
Interesting logic. We know for a fact that Hillary is an interventionist, murdering neocon, but this woman is still willing to vote for her despite claiming to care about militarism.
The Huffington Post also covered the Bernie or Bust movement:
ST. PAUL, Minnesota A horde of Bernie Sanders supporters at a local pub were watching closely as the Super Tuesday election results rolled in, a few booing as Hillary Clintons smiling face, accompanied by a green check mark, repeatedly flashed across the screens.
When they learned their candidate had beaten Hillary Clinton in Minnesota, taking the largest share of the states available delegates, they chanted and cheered the Vermont senators name and many vowed never to support his opponent, even if she goes on to win the Democratic nomination.
I will never support Hillary Clinton, said Adam Burch, 28, of Minneapolis. I identify as a socialist. She stands for everything that Im against. Its Bernie or nothing.
Hes the only other person in this race who doesnt have someone backing him, Coltem explained. Trump is crazy; he does a lot of weird stuff. I would prefer not to vote for him for president, but thats how much I dislike Hillary Clinton.
There goes that Im voting for Trump instead of Clinton sentiment again. Im seeing it everywhere as of late.
The writing is on the wall, and now even Democratic operatives are beginning to sweat. Take a look at some of the commentary in a Politicoarticle published yesterday:
Its time to stop pointing and laughing at the Republican primary. For all the GOP front-runners flaws, many veteran Democrats are beginning to conclude, Donald Trump is a canny operator who just might end up in the White House if theyre not careful.
He appears to be cracking the code with white working-class voters who could help him put blue Rust Belt states in play against Hillary Clinton. Hes helping to fuel record turnout in GOP primaries and hes mastered the media like no candidate in recent memory, with his constant feeding of catnip to cable TV and his 140-character missiles on Twitter.
Its fair to say theres been a graveyard already out there of people underestimating him, said Doug Sosnik, a former Bill Clinton White House adviser. And I am old enough to remember the sort of Democratic intelligentsia that was hoping Ronald Reagan would be nominated by Republicans in 1980 because everyone knew he was a doddering old right winger who could never get elected president.
I think Trump could beat her like a tied-up billy goat, said Mudcat Saunders, a rural Democratic strategist whos supporting Bernie Sanders. There are many areas in key swing states like Virginia, North Carolina, Ohio, and Pennsylvania that look like Sherman went through and didnt burn anything. Empty factories, empty buildings, few opportunities for young people. Its sad. It should be no surprise to anybody that voters in those areas are gravitating to Trump.
Mary Kay Henry, president of the 2.1-million strong Service Employees International Union, told David Axelrods Axe Files podcast recently that Trump is touching this vein of the terrible anxiety that working-class people feel about their current status, but more importantly, how terrified they are for their kids not being able to do as well as they have, never mind doing better.
One thing that scares me the most about Trump is the fact that every one of these Republican primaries to date has record turnout. And I think a large part of that, though not all of that, but a large part of that is that Trump is bringing out people who dont normally vote, and adding to the Republican mix on those things and so I worry that in the general election along with the traditional Republican voters that he has the opportunity to bring out a chunk of voters that dont normally vote in those elections and in some elections that could tip the scales, he said.
If Trump plays his cards right, it could be a bloodbath for Hillary.