Peter responded - You're not taking a knife to a gun fight. You are taking a gun to a gun fight. And it's not the criminals who are doing all the mass shootings. It's terrorists and nut jobs who are legally buying guns. If the only guns available are revolvers or bolt action rifles the damage would be far less and, as this one, barely a postscript when it could have been so very much worse. And are you saying you can only hunt and compete if you have semiautomatic weapons? Are you really that bad of a shot?

My response to Peter - Sell it to the victims of crime and terror. Sell it to the unarmed citizens of Chicago, etc. Sell it to the women in Europe being attacked and raped. The ideas that you can point and shoot will definitely deter an attacker. If they're smart they'll run and if not so be it. People have the right to use any weapon at their disposal to defend themselves.
You can't stop the "terrorists and nut jobs" by taking away the guns of law abiding citizens. Terrorists, nut jobs, and criminals don't follow laws and many already have caches of guns, including automatics, which they will never ever turn in no matter what the law says. Don't believe me about the stockpiles, ask law enforcement. Your logic does nothing to limit offensive weapons; it would only leave the law abiding citizen at a defensive disadvantage.
Your theory gives the false illusion of safety, and applied in real life situations, you're either a deceived victim or you're dead.

Well, when I hunted deer I used a 30-06 Winchester Model 70 bolt action with a 3x9 scope. It was more than adequate but if you are trying to make the case that your wife needs more fire power because she is a girl--well, if she is that bad a shot maybe you shouldn't be putting a gun in her hand in the first place.

And I do understand that with all the neanderthals in this country that our gun laws will never change. That being said, the fact remains that there is no reason for semi-auto or automatic weapons in this country especially if our intent is simply self defense. In that case a well placed shot by someone who knows how to use a gun is all that needed. Here in Texas we just had a break in into a gun store and all that was taken were the semi-autos. At least make it harder for criminals to get their hands on the guns they want but here they got 50 semi-auto's in under 2 minutes and for what--all so your wife can be an adequate deer hunter?

You guys are the ones making the case for concealed carry--fine, at least give people a chance to make use of their guns by limiting what the insane nut jobs who like to go on shooting rampages can carry! But because you people have inadequacy issues we all have to risk being potential victims of every nut job out there. And not to mention that terrorists don't have to worry about smuggling in weapons but they can use a strawman to go into any gun store and buy anything they want to carry out a murderous rampage. Than again, if they are citizens, they could go into a gun store and buy them for themselves couldn't they.

Guns in this country have become a sickness. It isn't about self defense nor is it about hunting. You people have this paranoid delusion that government is going to come and get you so you have to be armed to the teeth. That's what this is all about--it's about your paranoia and nothing more. A 44 magnum will take down any bad guy out there and a 30-06 will handle any big game animal on this continent. And guess what, an AR-15 will be no better than a Daisy BB gun against what our government can do to you. But hey, go ahead and hide behind the second amendment--because that's all it is that you are doing, hiding....

I recently made the point in a gun debate that we should only be able to own revolvers and bolt action rifles because they are limited in the amount of damage they can do before running out of ammo and the shooter having to reload. During the pause, where he is reloading, you now have the opportunity to rush him or you can pull out your own six shooter and blow him/her away. A case in point is the latest school shooting because where a 14 year old shooter ran out of ammo after shooting only 4 people where he than had to run away on foot.

This is exactly why we should be limited to revolvers and bolt action rifles. Our right to self-defense and hunt remain intact while the damage others can do against to us is limited because of the equipment they will have to use. Lets ban ALL semi autos and automatics and become it will led to a safer and, hopefully, saner nation.

What do you think? Great idea huh! Can I hear a AMEN!

http://www.wlwt.com/news/report-of-2-people-shot-at-madison-high-school/38252402

Kevyn wrote:
He has been a great commander and chief, he respects service members, has fought for veterans and most importantly has not sent our fighting men to be killed and wounded for no reason other than personal hubris and with no goal as his predisesor routinely did.



Zilla maybe they know the following and this is just a drop in the bucket of disrespect shows to our service members.

Kev wrote: He respects service members -
Ans: While Obama goes on lavish vacations, this is what service members get. Do you know lower ranks qualify for food stamps?
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/benefits/pay/2015/09/04/2016-military-pay-raise/71632544/
and
http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/17/news/economy/military-food-stamps/

Kev wrote: He fought for veterans - Tell it to the Vets who died waiting for treatment from the VA.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/02/politics/va-inspector-general-report/
and
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/09/03/va-inspector-general-307k-veterans-died-waiting-for-health-care/

Tell it to the Vets targeted as terrorists by Operation Vigilant Eagle.
http://govtslaves.info/veterans-targeted-by-obama-adminstration-as-potential-terrorists-for-being-disgruntled/

Where's their pay raise?
http://paycheck-chronicles.military.com/2015/10/15/2016-cost-of-living-adjustment-likely-zero/

Well, when I hunted deer I used a 30-06 Winchester Model 70 bolt action with a 3x9 scope. It was more than adequate but if you are trying to make the case that your wife needs more fire power because she is a girl--well, if she is that bad a shot maybe you shouldn't be putting a gun in her hand in the first place.

And I do understand that with all the neanderthals in this country that our gun laws will never change. That being said, the fact remains that there is no reason for semi-auto or automatic weapons in this country especially if our intent is simply self defense. In that case a well placed shot by someone who knows how to use a gun is all that needed. Here in Texas we just had a break in into a gun store and all that was taken were the semi-autos. At least make it harder for criminals to get their hands on the guns they want but here they got 50 semi-auto's in under 2 minutes and for what--all so your wife can be an adequate deer hunter?

You guys are the ones making the case for concealed carry--fine, at least give people a chance to make use of their guns by limiting what the insane nut jobs who like to go on shooting rampages can carry! But because you people have inadequacy issues we all have to risk being potential victims of every nut job out there. And not to mention that terrorists don't have to worry about smuggling in weapons but they can use a strawman to go into any gun store and buy anything they want to carry out a murderous rampage. Than again, if they are citizens, they could go into a gun store and buy them for themselves couldn't they.

Guns in this country have become a sickness. It isn't about self defense nor is it about hunting. You people have this paranoid delusion that government is going to come and get you so you have to be armed to the teeth. That's what this is all about--it's about your paranoia and nothing more. A 44 magnum will take down any bad guy out there and a 30-06 will handle any big game animal on this continent. And guess what, an AR-15 will be no better than a Daisy BB gun against what our government can do to you. But hey, go ahead and hide behind the second amendment--because that's all it is that you are doing, hiding....

It is well documented that greatly reducing the number and type of arms available to the public in time significantly reduces mayhem. As recently as the seventies in much of the country anyone could walk into a hardware store and buy dynamite and blasting caps. Dynamite attacks by mobsters and outlaw bikers were common as we're bomb attacks by radical political groups. Quickly these sorts of arms were banned. Currently you can not posess such explosives once common on farms without federal license, and storage of explosives are closely regulated. While some old dynamite and caps are likely still on shelves in old barns it's ready availability has been reduced to the point dynamite attacks in the US have been almost entirely eliminated. Think of the increase in damage that would have resulted if domestic terrorists like the Boston bombers, Bundy terrorists in Oregon or San Bernardino shooters could access unregulated cheap dynamite.

I don't think you can afford an Abrams but I'll check out at Pantex to see if they have any surplus nukes, but they're probably pretty pricey. You might see if you can get a plutonium pit, but you'll disolve before you get home. This may come as a shock to you, but automatic weapons made before 1978 (I think) are legal to own. You have to get a tax stamp from the ATF for around $400. You can also get a legal suppressor (silencer) by buying a tax stamp for $200. You have to apply and you are checked out before you are approved, a period of several months. Then an ATF agent moves next door to you and taps your phones. I just hope you've got lots of money to feed your Thompson!