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Nov 29, 2013 23:15:37   #
Richard94611
 
Thought you folks might be interested in the loss or gain of jobs under W and then under Obama. For those of you who want to push the blame for the recession onto Obama, this will be hard to swallow, though true. This is back a few years, but certainly reflects the transition.

found at the Bureau of Labor Statistics -

Private-sector Job situation last 12 months under B/USH (2008-2009):

February___________-136,000 (lost)
March_____________ -112,000 (lost)
April______________-215,000 (lost)
May______________ -216,000 (lost)
June______________-231,000 (lost)
July_______________­259,000 (lost)
August____________ -294,000 (lost)
September_________ -425,000 (lost)
October____________­-480,000 (lost)
November__________ -797,000 (lost)
December__________-658,000 (lost)
January____________-839,000 (lost)
.

Private-sector Job situation over past 12 months under OBAMA:

July_____________+175,000 (gained)
August__________ +52,000 (gained)
September______+216,000 (gained)
October________ +139,000 (gained)
November_______+178,000 (gained)
December_______+234,000 (gained)
January_________+277,000 (gained)
February________+254,000 (gained)
March__________+147,000 (gained)
April____________ +85,000 (gained)
May______________+105,000 (gained)
June______________+84,000 (gained)

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Nov 29, 2013 23:24:06   #
rumitoid
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Thought you folks might be interested in the loss or gain of jobs under W and then under Obama. For those of you who want to push the blame for the recession onto Obama, this will be hard to swallow, though true. This is back a few years, but certainly reflects the transition.

found at the Bureau of Labor Statistics -

Private-sector Job situation last 12 months under B/USH (2008-2009):

February___________-136,000 (lost)
March_____________ -112,000 (lost)
April______________-215,000 (lost)
May______________ -216,000 (lost)
June______________-231,000 (lost)
July_______________­259,000 (lost)
August____________ -294,000 (lost)
September_________ -425,000 (lost)
October____________­-480,000 (lost)
November__________ -797,000 (lost)
December__________-658,000 (lost)
January____________-839,000 (lost)
.

Private-sector Job situation over past 12 months under OBAMA:

July_____________+175,000 (gained)
August__________ +52,000 (gained)
September______+216,000 (gained)
October________ +139,000 (gained)
November_______+178,000 (gained)
December_______+234,000 (gained)
January_________+277,000 (gained)
February________+254,000 (gained)
March__________+147,000 (gained)
April____________ +85,000 (gained)
May______________+105,000 (gained)
June______________+84,000 (gained)
Thought you folks might be interested in the loss ... (show quote)


Little squiqqle signs: what do they mean? A plus or minus can easily be manipulated with just a scratch of a pen. Obama is evil, don't you get it; these are marks of the anti-christ.

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Nov 29, 2013 23:24:10   #
petertimber
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Thought you folks might be interested in the loss or gain of jobs under W and then under Obama. For those of you who want to push the blame for the recession onto Obama, this will be hard to swallow, though true. This is back a few years, but certainly reflects the transition.

found at the Bureau of Labor Statistics -

Private-sector Job situation last 12 months under B/USH (2008-2009):

February___________-136,000 (lost)
March_____________ -112,000 (lost)
April______________-215,000 (lost)
May______________ -216,000 (lost)
June______________-231,000 (lost)
July_______________­259,000 (lost)
August____________ -294,000 (lost)
September_________ -425,000 (lost)
October____________­-480,000 (lost)
November__________ -797,000 (lost)
December__________-658,000 (lost)
January____________-839,000 (lost)
.

Private-sector Job situation over past 12 months under OBAMA:

July_____________+175,000 (gained)
August__________ +52,000 (gained)
September______+216,000 (gained)
October________ +139,000 (gained)
November_______+178,000 (gained)
December_______+234,000 (gained)
January_________+277,000 (gained)
February________+254,000 (gained)
March__________+147,000 (gained)
April____________ +85,000 (gained)
May______________+105,000 (gained)
June______________+84,000 (gained)
Thought you folks might be interested in the loss ... (show quote)


Bush $38.00 per hour for educated and well trained techies while Obama $5.00 per hour at MCJOBS fast food jockeys uneducated and not fit for anything beyond grade school makes your comparison seen its true light.

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Nov 29, 2013 23:26:21   #
Richard94611
 
You're entitled to your opinion, even when it is confused and wrong.


petertimber wrote:
Bush $38.00 per hour for educated and well trained techies while Obama $5.00 per hour at MCJOBS fast food jockeys uneducated and not fit for anything beyond grade school makes your comparison seen its true light.

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Nov 29, 2013 23:27:48   #
Richard94611
 
As I predicted, people who hold the sort of political views you hold cannot believe facts contrary to those views.


rumitoid wrote:
Little squiqqle signs: what do they mean? A plus or minus can easily be manipulated with just a scratch of a pen. Obama is evil, don't you get it; these are marks of the anti-christ.

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Nov 29, 2013 23:37:30   #
petertimber
 
Richard94611 wrote:
As I predicted, people who hold the sort of political views you hold cannot believe facts contrary to those views.


You wouldn't know a fact from dirty words my friend since your lack of formal economics training is so evident that there is no longer any need to take you seriously

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Nov 29, 2013 23:40:36   #
rumitoid
 
Richard94611 wrote:
As I predicted, people who hold the sort of political views you hold cannot believe facts contrary to those views.


And people like you who are so enamored of your own opinion that you cannot recognize sarcasm. Actually, I was being facetious.

Several threads, including one started by me, deals with American citizens being very negative in attitude. Put positive numbers up like this, and Fox News and Conservatives have trained them to think it is a lie. Has to be impossible, given the persistent gloom report of Rightwing media.

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Nov 30, 2013 01:17:37   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Thought you folks might be interested in the loss or gain of jobs under W and then under Obama. For those of you who want to push the blame for the recession onto Obama, this will be hard to swallow, though true. This is back a few years, but certainly reflects the transition.

found at the Bureau of Labor Statistics -

Private-sector Job situation last 12 months under B/USH (2008-2009):

February___________-136,000 (lost)
March_____________ -112,000 (lost)
April______________-215,000 (lost)
May______________ -216,000 (lost)
June______________-231,000 (lost)
July_______________­259,000 (lost)
August____________ -294,000 (lost)
September_________ -425,000 (lost)
October____________­-480,000 (lost)
November__________ -797,000 (lost)
December__________-658,000 (lost)
January____________-839,000 (lost)
.

Private-sector Job situation over past 12 months under OBAMA:

July_____________+175,000 (gained)
August__________ +52,000 (gained)
September______+216,000 (gained)
October________ +139,000 (gained)
November_______+178,000 (gained)
December_______+234,000 (gained)
January_________+277,000 (gained)
February________+254,000 (gained)
March__________+147,000 (gained)
April____________ +85,000 (gained)
May______________+105,000 (gained)
June______________+84,000 (gained)
Thought you folks might be interested in the loss ... (show quote)


Impressive. Now do you know how many of these jobs went to American citizens? Bet you have not read this: http://cis.org/who-got-jobs-during-obama-presidency
Okay, I know you may not want to go to the article, so let me tell you 52 percent of the jobs are now held by foreign born. And did you bother about the statistics regarding the cost of living increasing while net pay has gone down? Hummm, how about the fact that the majority of the new jobs are only part time: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/21/part-time-job-creation_n_3788365.html

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Nov 30, 2013 01:17:37   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Sorry, duplicate entry

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Nov 30, 2013 07:39:23   #
Liberty Tree
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Thought you folks might be interested in the loss or gain of jobs under W and then under Obama. For those of you who want to push the blame for the recession onto Obama, this will be hard to swallow, though true. This is back a few years, but certainly reflects the transition.

found at the Bureau of Labor Statistics -

Private-sector Job situation last 12 months under B/USH (2008-2009):

February___________-136,000 (lost)
March_____________ -112,000 (lost)
April______________-215,000 (lost)
May______________ -216,000 (lost)
June______________-231,000 (lost)
July_______________­259,000 (lost)
August____________ -294,000 (lost)
September_________ -425,000 (lost)
October____________­-480,000 (lost)
November__________ -797,000 (lost)
December__________-658,000 (lost)
January____________-839,000 (lost)
.

Private-sector Job situation over past 12 months under OBAMA:

July_____________+175,000 (gained)
August__________ +52,000 (gained)
September______+216,000 (gained)
October________ +139,000 (gained)
November_______+178,000 (gained)
December_______+234,000 (gained)
January_________+277,000 (gained)
February________+254,000 (gained)
March__________+147,000 (gained)
April____________ +85,000 (gained)
May______________+105,000 (gained)
June______________+84,000 (gained)
Thought you folks might be interested in the loss ... (show quote)


If this is all true why do we have the smallest labor force in decades? Why are more people getting unemployment for longer periods of time? Why are more people in poverty? Why are more people getting food stamps? With all the new taxpayers why is the deficit exploding?

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Nov 30, 2013 07:55:18   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
And people like you who are so enamored of your own opinion that you cannot recognize sarcasm. Actually, I was being facetious.

Several threads, including one started by me, deals with American citizens being very negative in attitude. Put positive numbers up like this, and Fox News and Conservatives have trained them to think it is a lie. Has to be impossible, given the persistent gloom report of Rightwing media.


The "facts" are that most of these jobs are low end, low pay, and in many cases part time also. It is a method of "cooking the books" to base your stats on "jobs is jobs." All jobs are not created equal. Creating a bunch of low pay, low skilled and part time jobs does not equate to an economic recovery, it means more people having to obtain food stamps.

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Nov 30, 2013 08:13:56   #
nancyjess
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Thought you folks might be interested in the loss or gain of jobs under W and then under Obama. For those of you who want to push the blame for the recession onto Obama, this will be hard to swallow, though true. This is back a few years, but certainly reflects the transition.

found at the Bureau of Labor Statistics -

Private-sector Job situation last 12 months under B/USH (2008-2009):

February___________-136,000 (lost)
March_____________ -112,000 (lost)
April______________-215,000 (lost)
May______________ -216,000 (lost)
June______________-231,000 (lost)
July_______________­259,000 (lost)
August____________ -294,000 (lost)
September_________ -425,000 (lost)
October____________­-480,000 (lost)
November__________ -797,000 (lost)
December__________-658,000 (lost)
January____________-839,000 (lost)
.

Private-sector Job situation over past 12 months under OBAMA:

July_____________+175,000 (gained)
August__________ +52,000 (gained)
September______+216,000 (gained)
October________ +139,000 (gained)
November_______+178,000 (gained)
December_______+234,000 (gained)
January_________+277,000 (gained)
February________+254,000 (gained)
March__________+147,000 (gained)
April____________ +85,000 (gained)
May______________+105,000 (gained)
June______________+84,000 (gained)
Thought you folks might be interested in the loss ... (show quote)

You say during 2008 to 2009 there was a loss of jobs....
but that was the years obama was our president.!!!

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Nov 30, 2013 08:41:03   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Thought you folks might be interested in the loss or gain of jobs under W and then under Obama. For those of you who want to push the blame for the recession onto Obama, this will be hard to swallow, though true. This is back a few years, but certainly reflects the transition.

found at the Bureau of Labor Statistics -

Private-sector Job situation last 12 months under B/USH (2008-2009):

February___________-136,000 (lost)
March_____________ -112,000 (lost)
April______________-215,000 (lost)
May______________ -216,000 (lost)
June______________-231,000 (lost)
July_______________­259,000 (lost)
August____________ -294,000 (lost)
September_________ -425,000 (lost)
October____________­-480,000 (lost)
November__________ -797,000 (lost)
December__________-658,000 (lost)
January____________-839,000 (lost)
.

Private-sector Job situation over past 12 months under OBAMA:

July_____________+175,000 (gained)
August__________ +52,000 (gained)
September______+216,000 (gained)
October________ +139,000 (gained)
November_______+178,000 (gained)
December_______+234,000 (gained)
January_________+277,000 (gained)
February________+254,000 (gained)
March__________+147,000 (gained)
April____________ +85,000 (gained)
May______________+105,000 (gained)
June______________+84,000 (gained)
Thought you folks might be interested in the loss ... (show quote)


:thumbdown: :thumbdown:
Yah, minimum wage jobs. Part time jobs. I quess you don't know there are 20,000,000 people still out of work.

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Nov 30, 2013 08:55:12   #
nancyjess
 
ginnyt wrote:
Impressive. Now do you know how many of these jobs went to American citizens? Bet you have not read this: http://cis.org/who-got-jobs-during-obama-presidency
Okay, I know you may not want to go to the article, so let me tell you 52 percent of the jobs are now held by foreign born. And did you bother about the statistics regarding the cost of living increasing while net pay has gone down? Hummm, how about the fact that the majority of the new jobs are only part time: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/21/part-time-job-creation_n_3788365.html
Impressive. Now do you know how many of these job... (show quote)

i am thrilled you posted this... ! most people do not do their research deep enough. thank you ! keep it rolling.

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Nov 30, 2013 11:24:16   #
Richard94611
 
See if you can think for a while and see reasons.


Liberty Tree wrote:
If this is all true why do we have the smallest labor force in decades? Why are more people getting unemployment for longer periods of time? Why are more people in poverty? Why are more people getting food stamps? With all the new taxpayers why is the deficit exploding?

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