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Nov 29, 2013 12:57:33   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
octive9 wrote:
Tell me something Dave, as an agnostic, what is your belief as to what happens when you die?


Why do you think I should answer your question while you ignore the several I posted to you? Is it a problem with your ego, or your ability to logically think.

As to your question, I will be a bit more responsive than you and answer, I don't know what happens when I, or you, or anyone else, dies. Further, I don't believe that you or anyone else knows. I do believe that some, maybe even you, have faith in that regards, but faith is not knowing, it is simply believing.

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Nov 29, 2013 12:58:57   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Jonathan Livingston Pigeon wrote:
Christians, many, if not most are hypocrites that proudly demonstrate their alleged Christian faith, and, slander the poor, the disenfranchised as "parasites, socialists, lazy bums".

Where is the compassion for the poor; the huddled masses. People often wear their religion on their sleeve as a badge of membership, but, rarely live the principles that it preaches. God the Hypocrite Above All Else.

The real tragedy in America is this Unholy Marriage of Born Again, Backwoods Evangelical Nut Jobs and the Tea Republican Party into a Union of Haters!
Christians, many, if not most are hypocrites that ... (show quote)


Anyone who disagrees with your social policies is either a nut or evil - nothing hateful in your opinion of yourself.

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Nov 29, 2013 13:01:27   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Jonathan Livingston Pigeon wrote:
Are these, self-proclaimed "Christians", helping the "needy" or greedily feeding them their "brand" of religious reality in exchange for food in order to convert more souls, that they, the giver, might be raptured?

Christians, true Christians, keep their mouth shut, live their faith and sow seeds by example, not by applause for their alleged "good deeds".

Remove the plank from one's own eye before calling the pot black, my friend. Jesus never called himself a Christian nor asked of the poor to donate to his palatial temple.

Christians need to bathe their minds with "Love" for everyone, not just Right Wing Nut Jobs and Stop the Hate by turning off Fox TV Network Faux News and Rush, impacted bowels, Limbaugh.
Are these, self-proclaimed "Christians",... (show quote)


Nice to see you've appointed yourself as the arbitrator of who is and isn't a Christian. I'm impressed. As an agnostic I had heard that "judge not lest you be judged in turn" was a Christian adage - but see you've overcome that limitation. Must be self gratifying to see yourself at such a high level of advancement.

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Nov 29, 2013 13:44:11   #
octive9
 
Dave wrote:
Why do you think I should answer your question while you ignore the several I posted to you? Is it a problem with your ego, or your ability to logically think.

As to your question, I will be a bit more responsive than you and answer, I don't know what happens when I, or you, or anyone else, dies. Further, I don't believe that you or anyone else knows. I do believe that some, maybe even you, have faith in that regards, but faith is not knowing, it is simply believing.


I'm not sure what questions I failed to answer, but I will be happy to answer any questions I can to the best of my ability.

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Nov 29, 2013 13:59:50   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
octive9 wrote:
I'm not sure what questions I failed to answer, but I will be happy to answer any questions I can to the best of my ability.


Go back to the previous posts - and if you think you answered any, you might consider a course in reading comprehension.

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Nov 29, 2013 16:43:57   #
octive9
 
Dave wrote:
Go back to the previous posts - and if you think you answered any, you might consider a course in reading comprehension.


Not going to happen. I am not going to dig through pages of posts to find your questions. You probably wouldn't want to hear my answers anyway.

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Nov 29, 2013 17:04:56   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
octive9 wrote:
Not going to happen. I am not going to dig through pages of posts to find your questions. You probably wouldn't want to hear my answers anyway.


As I'm sure you don't have any answers, I understand your reluctance to use you mouse? Using it might require you t use your brain and from what I've seen, that must be painful for you.

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Nov 29, 2013 17:42:14   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Amen!!
Dave wrote:
Why do you think I should answer your question while you ignore the several I posted to you? Is it a problem with your ego, or your ability to logically think.

As to your question, I will be a bit more responsive than you and answer, I don't know what happens when I, or you, or anyone else, dies. Further, I don't believe that you or anyone else knows. I do believe that some, maybe even you, have faith in that regards, but faith is not knowing, it is simply believing.

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Nov 29, 2013 18:11:32   #
octive9
 
Dave wrote:
As I'm sure you don't have any answers, I understand your reluctance to use you mouse? Using it might require you t use your brain and from what I've seen, that must be painful for you.


Insults are meaningless. Our concepts are very far apart, but I am willing to discuss them if you are willing to have a reasonable discussion instead of an insult throwing contest.

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Nov 30, 2013 07:38:19   #
Jonathan Livingston Pigeon Loc: Mildew, Ohio
 
There's a lot of anger, repressed hatred and rigidness in your responses, perhaps, your faith is not working. Christianity is not suppose to be a fundamentalist, shove it down your throat or kill 'em philosophy.

It's a lot about forgiveness of others, compassion and the understanding that even ones enemies are children of god!

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Nov 30, 2013 11:34:13   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
octive9 wrote:
Insults are meaningless. Our concepts are very far apart, but I am willing to discuss them if you are willing to have a reasonable discussion instead of an insult throwing contest.


Wow, sensitive when echoing your tone back - and as to your willingness to discuss, your idea of discussion is obviously ignore any response that will show the lack of both thought and consistency in your points, as well as the hollowness of your self identified moral superiority

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Nov 30, 2013 13:15:35   #
Jonathan Livingston Pigeon Loc: Mildew, Ohio
 
Thank you, Dave. I am always amazed at how bitter, angry and entrenched so called "Christians" can be when it comes to discussing religious differences.

Especially, disturbing in this new fangled, backwoods entity known as Born Again Christians, who seem to only recognize their brand of hypocrisy as the right one and will kill for their position.

These are very under educated, dangerous folks who have allowed their religion to be hijacked by Tea Republicans.

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Nov 30, 2013 15:03:45   #
bahmer
 
Jonathan Livingston Pigeon wrote:
Thank you, Dave. I am always amazed at how bitter, angry and entrenched so called "Christians" can be when it comes to discussing religious differences.

Especially, disturbing in this new fangled, backwoods entity known as Born Again Christians, who seem to only recognize their brand of hypocrisy as the right one and will kill for their position.

These are very under educated, dangerous folks who have allowed their religion to be hijacked by Tea Republicans.


The Born Again Christians that I know include Medical Doctors, Engineers in all areas of expertise, Lawyers, as well as African Americans, Caucasians, Indians from India,Thailand natives and just normal dukes mixture people in all levels of life and career. I have not yet met anyone who is willing to kill or has even suggested it for position or any other reason for that matter. These people that I know discuss differences openly and honestly and at some times part company and each maintains their original belief or differences. I do not know of any of these Christians that feels that we have been hijacked by the Tea Party or any other party for that matter. I did hear at the last democrat convention a petition to abolish God from its statement of belief though.

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Nov 30, 2013 19:03:12   #
Jonathan Livingston Pigeon Loc: Mildew, Ohio
 
Your responses are all aimed at taking swipes at Democrats, demonizing Liberals and glorifying Conservative Right Wing Republicans as the light and the truth, when it is the furthest thing from the truth.

Born Again Christians rail against Liberals from the pulpits of their churches and soil the true intentions of the Founding Father to separate church and state, because they knew how divinely deadly religious folks have been and are.

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Dec 1, 2013 11:50:32   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Jonathan Livingston Pigeon wrote:
Thank you, Dave. I am always amazed at how bitter, angry and entrenched so called "Christians" can be when it comes to discussing religious differences.

Especially, disturbing in this new fangled, backwoods entity known as Born Again Christians, who seem to only recognize their brand of hypocrisy as the right one and will kill for their position.

These are very under educated, dangerous folks who have allowed their religion to be hijacked by Tea Republicans.


You are obviously unaware of the bitterness in your post decrying bitterness in others - the irony escapes you, I'm sure.

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