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Feb 25, 2016 10:33:08   #
Carol Kelly
 
snowbear37 wrote:
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I agree and will do the same thing. The least effective part of Presidential elections seems to be voters. Voter fraud, miscounts, people voting multiple times, dead people voting, "lost" ballots, etc.

"When the Spanish online voting company SCYTL bought the largest vote processing corporation in the United States, it also acquired the means of manufacturing the outcome of the 2012 election. For SOE, the Tampa based corporation purchased by SCYTL in January, supplies the election software which records, counts, and reports the votes of Americans in 26 states–900 total jurisdictions–across the nation.

As the largest election results reporting company in the US, SOE provides reports right down to the precinct level. But before going anywhere else, those election returns are routed to individual, company servers where the people who run them “…get ‘first look’ at results and the ability to immediately and privately examine vote details throughout the USA.” In short, “this redirects results …to a centralized privately held server which is not just for Ohio, but national; not just USA-based, but global.”

And although the votes will be cast in hometown, American precincts on Election Day, with the Barcelona-based SCYTL taking charge of the process, they will be routed and counted overseas."
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Very educational. I thought I had it figured out but was off the mark. So now we can all blame Spain. That EU was a HUGE error. Those countries never got along, but Germany finally got complete control. Maybe that's where our votes are counted.

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Feb 25, 2016 10:51:01   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
3jack wrote:
Can't understand what this has to do with the lie about Obama spending money. Try your deflection someplace else.


Eat it and die fool



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Feb 25, 2016 11:11:18   #
zillaorange
 
Ricko wrote:
Obama has done it again. It took this country's presidents 216 years to amass an 8.5 trillion dollar National Debt. Obama was able to double that debt by accumulating another 8.5 trillion in just seven years. Our taxpayers are weary but our lenders are rejoicing. A real democrat at work. If left to their own devices and not to be outdone, both Bernie and Hillary would triple our debt just to show they are even better democrats. Good Luck America !!!


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Feb 25, 2016 11:13:22   #
zillaorange
 
3jack wrote:
Only congress can spend money or authorize money to be spent. It know this might be difficult to understand, but you might want to give it a try.


unless of course obummer uses his "pen & telephone".

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Feb 25, 2016 11:15:54   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
Oh, really? Perhaps you would care to tell everyone here which party (R or D) had control of this congress during the last of President Bushes term? Let me help you. The democrats controlled congress and had control of the money.

Therefore the great recession would be the result of their monetary controls. A recession which was blamed on President Bush.

Can't have it both ways, can you?


ghostgotcha-the dems had full control of congress and the White House for the first two years of the Obama presidency. What resulted was hordes of new regulations thwarting the growth of small businesses. No mention of revising the tax code, balancing the budget, or creating a job friendly environment. All of that political capital was spent to ram Obamacare down the throats of unsuspecting American citizens. That program is on life support as we speak and will be gone by 2017 along with the fraud from Kenya. Now if Hillary is admitted to the Clinton Correctional Facility, America will have a chance to heal and recover. We should soon see if we have a real AG in this country. It would be a significant departure from the Holder era. Good Luck America !!!

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Feb 25, 2016 13:57:00   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
3jack wrote:
Only congress can spend money or authorize money to be spent. It know this might be difficult to understand, but you might want to give it a try.


Every time that the Republicans balk at a spending bill the Democrats jump up to say "look at what the Republicans are doing" they want the country to default on our bills by not passing this bill and other such BS. They do not want to control the budget, the Democrats just want to increase the size of government and the expense to get more votes.

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Feb 25, 2016 13:58:58   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Ricko wrote:
Obama has done it again. It took this country's presidents 216 years to amass an 8.5 trillion dollar National Debt. Obama was able to double that debt by accumulating another 8.5 trillion in just seven years. Our taxpayers are weary but our lenders are rejoicing. A real democrat at work. If left to their own devices and not to be outdone, both Bernie and Hillary would triple our debt just to show they are even better democrats. Good Luck America !!!


We must admit that nearly half of that was built into the budget Obozo inherited from Bush.

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Feb 25, 2016 14:03:18   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
3jack wrote:
Only congress can spend money or authorize money to be spent. It know this might be difficult to understand, but you might want to give it a try.


So, then the last two years of W Bush and the first two years of Obama were all the fault of the Democrat controlled Congress - as well as the last six years of Bill Clinton - interesting.

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Feb 25, 2016 14:25:51   #
zillaorange
 
steve66613 wrote:
Does anybody here think that if this government becomes socialist, the investing countries can REALLY milk the "cash cow"? They certainly don't want this nation fail! However, this government has milked us to the max...at least, about as far as we'll tolerate. So, isn't the next step socialism....where the government gets almost all of what we can generate?

So, does it matter who we elect for POTUS? Using manipulation of the Super Delegates, voting fraud, electoral college, etc. , slight-of-hand dupes the public into thinking the majority ruled....when it didn't.

Am I just totally paranoid?
Does anybody here think that if this government be... (show quote)


not at all ! when congress/ supreme court declared corporations as "people" they blew it ! voting fraud is rampant in my neck of the woods. a group which has settlements up here in the burbs & down in the city, they vote in both locations, in bloc, got the politicos by the short hairs. they fold EVERY TIME ! as far as the electoral college goes, I think it's time to go ! 1 person 1 vote. as I understand it, it came about because the politicos thought we were too dumb to make our own decisions.

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Feb 25, 2016 14:25:52   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Dave wrote:
So, then the last two years of W Bush and the first two years of Obama were all the fault of the Democrat controlled Congress - as well as the last six years of Bill Clinton - interesting.


By the same reasoning we could credit the GOP congress with a good bit of the increased debt from the Obama admin.

Lets face it, when you talk about debt, its a two way street.

Add to that their notion that the US citizens don't know what is good for them and we have gov problems.

Remember the first stimulus under Bush, pushed thru despite 90% or more opposition to it by the public with them so much as saying it was for our own good.

That, boys and girls, is the day freedom went bye, bye. Almost a good enough reason to believe some of the conspiracy theories!!

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Feb 25, 2016 14:34:36   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
By the same reasoning we could credit the GOP congress with a good bit of the increased debt from the Obama admin.

Lets face it, when you talk about debt, its a two way street.

Add to that their notion that the US citizens don't know what is good for them and we have gov problems.

Remember the first stimulus under Bush, pushed thru despite 90% or more opposition to it by the public with them so much as saying it was for our own good.

That, boys and girls, is the day freedom went bye, bye. Almost a good enough reason to believe some of the conspiracy theories!!
By the same reasoning we could credit the GOP cong... (show quote)


Well, at least you concede that the vaunted Clinton surpluses were really the GOP Congress surpluses - and the largest of the Obama deficits were the Democrat surpluses.

Also, you talk about the Bush stimulus which seems quite a bit different than your comment that Congress controls such programs - didn't know Bush was ever in Congress.

By the way, I am one of those conservatives who have severely criticized W Bush and the establishment Republicans for not being real conservatives. They've been largely Democrat lite

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Feb 25, 2016 14:35:53   #
greyfox Loc: western mass.
 
SGM B wrote:
YES THEY WILL! I have no clue how thinking Americans can even think of voting "D" this cycle. Gogol luck America indeed.

I agree!! J still wonder how those Dems gave this inept president a second term!!!!

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Feb 25, 2016 14:58:10   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
greyfox wrote:
I agree!! J still wonder how those Dems gave this inept president a second term!!!!


greyfox-for the same reason a socialist and a criminal are running, its all they have and the thought of having to find a job is repulsive to many democrat voters. Welfare checks and food stamps have become a way of life . Let Joe work . Good Luck America !!!

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Feb 25, 2016 16:13:59   #
zillaorange
 
greyfox wrote:
I agree!! J still wonder how those Dems gave this inept president a second term!!!!


wonder how many of our black brethren voted for the 1st time ?

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Feb 25, 2016 16:22:01   #
Robert Wilson Loc: Texas
 
The weak kneed wimp Republicans will bow down, kiss B.O.'s b-tt, roll over, and play STUPID, THEN GIVE HIM WHAT HE WANTS. In actuality, the G.O.P. should find the guts to impeach the mutant.

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