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Nov 27, 2013 13:32:11 #
A disturbing but telling story is playing out in Pennsylvania. Two men robbed a local store, but were killed by a private citizen who confronted them before they could get away. Now the families of the criminals want to sue the man who stopped a crime, because he killed their loved ones.
It's not fair," said Virginia Medina, mother of 24-year-old William Medina, who police said robbed Krick's Korner store alongside 18-year-old Robert De Carr on Monday.
The two men were shot and killed by a private citizen while leaving the store, and family members want to see charges pressed.
"[William] had no right to lose his life over something that man could have called the police for," said Medina. "He took the law into his own hands and walked away scot-free."
"How about if people just start running around here, policing the city on their own? How much worse is it going to get?" said Peter Ratel, Medina's cousin.
The family members said they are hurt by comments suggesting the alleged robbers were "thugs."
According to Medina, William was "no big hard criminal" and was rather a family-man who loved his young daughter.
Robert De Carr was described similarly by his sister, Taylor De Carr.
"My brother was a good kid," she told 69 News.
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While we may feel some empathy for the families of the deceased, the police report on the incident adds some facts to the case. The two masked robbers emerged from the store and were immediately confronted by the hero. He told them to stop and wait for the police to arrive. At this point the masked thugs pulled their weapons to take aim at the innocent man. This is when he opened fire, killing the two criminals. Thanks to security camera footage and witnesses, the man wont be charged with a crime like these hoodlums families want, nor can he be sued. Pennsylvania has something called the Castle Doctrine which prohibits the hero from being sued in civil court as well.
The families of the thugs may be hurting from their loss, but their reaction belies a greater problem in modern American culture. Culturally we have lost the ability to feel shame or understand responsibility. The families blame a passerby who was legally carrying a firearm (proving he has no criminal record) for trying to stop their relatives from committing a violent crime instead of being angry with their kin for putting on masks, pulling guns, and violently attacking another person.
robberyMoreover, the hero didnt shoot them as they exited the store. He warned them to stop and wait for police and these thugs chose to instead pull their guns to shoot him. The sister of one of the men said My brother was a good kid. No, he wasnt. He was the type of evil person who could terrify someone else with the idea that they might die, just so he could steal their hard earned money. He was a bad man and as harsh and mean as it sounds, his death means that the community is safer.
We also apparently need to educate these folks on the purpose of the police. Generally, the police do not stop crimes, they investigate them and then punish them. It is up to us, the average citizen who may see the crime being committed, to STOP crime from happening. I dont think most people would advocate for vigilantism, but most of us do teach our children that when they see wrong being committed its their responsibility to take action.
The man who killed these thugs is a hero, not for killing them, but for being willing to right the wrong that he saw happening. These thugs are dead, not because he got involved, but because they chose to commit a violent crime.
Stop making excuses and start taking responsibility. Our freedom, our liberty, is not some faraway idea that is out there for the government to protect its up to each of us to defend it. We should reward those who do, not defame them.
It's not fair," said Virginia Medina, mother of 24-year-old William Medina, who police said robbed Krick's Korner store alongside 18-year-old Robert De Carr on Monday.
The two men were shot and killed by a private citizen while leaving the store, and family members want to see charges pressed.
"[William] had no right to lose his life over something that man could have called the police for," said Medina. "He took the law into his own hands and walked away scot-free."
"How about if people just start running around here, policing the city on their own? How much worse is it going to get?" said Peter Ratel, Medina's cousin.
The family members said they are hurt by comments suggesting the alleged robbers were "thugs."
According to Medina, William was "no big hard criminal" and was rather a family-man who loved his young daughter.
Robert De Carr was described similarly by his sister, Taylor De Carr.
"My brother was a good kid," she told 69 News.
video platformvideo managementvideo solutionsvideo player
While we may feel some empathy for the families of the deceased, the police report on the incident adds some facts to the case. The two masked robbers emerged from the store and were immediately confronted by the hero. He told them to stop and wait for the police to arrive. At this point the masked thugs pulled their weapons to take aim at the innocent man. This is when he opened fire, killing the two criminals. Thanks to security camera footage and witnesses, the man wont be charged with a crime like these hoodlums families want, nor can he be sued. Pennsylvania has something called the Castle Doctrine which prohibits the hero from being sued in civil court as well.
The families of the thugs may be hurting from their loss, but their reaction belies a greater problem in modern American culture. Culturally we have lost the ability to feel shame or understand responsibility. The families blame a passerby who was legally carrying a firearm (proving he has no criminal record) for trying to stop their relatives from committing a violent crime instead of being angry with their kin for putting on masks, pulling guns, and violently attacking another person.
robberyMoreover, the hero didnt shoot them as they exited the store. He warned them to stop and wait for police and these thugs chose to instead pull their guns to shoot him. The sister of one of the men said My brother was a good kid. No, he wasnt. He was the type of evil person who could terrify someone else with the idea that they might die, just so he could steal their hard earned money. He was a bad man and as harsh and mean as it sounds, his death means that the community is safer.
We also apparently need to educate these folks on the purpose of the police. Generally, the police do not stop crimes, they investigate them and then punish them. It is up to us, the average citizen who may see the crime being committed, to STOP crime from happening. I dont think most people would advocate for vigilantism, but most of us do teach our children that when they see wrong being committed its their responsibility to take action.
The man who killed these thugs is a hero, not for killing them, but for being willing to right the wrong that he saw happening. These thugs are dead, not because he got involved, but because they chose to commit a violent crime.
Stop making excuses and start taking responsibility. Our freedom, our liberty, is not some faraway idea that is out there for the government to protect its up to each of us to defend it. We should reward those who do, not defame them.
Nov 27, 2013 13:35:43 #
ldsuttonjr wrote:
A disturbing but telling story is playing out in P... (show quote)
sorry left out the author : Onan Coca
Nov 27, 2013 13:43:29 #
Nov 27, 2013 15:30:26 #
Nov 27, 2013 16:01:10 #
lpnmajor
Loc: Arkansas
TiredOne wrote:
Who is the useless being supported by the Useful Idiots???
Yeah, I didn't see it either.
Nov 27, 2013 16:41:08 #
TiredOne wrote:
Who is the useless being supported by the Useful Idiots???
Lets see! According to informed sources; whatever that means anymore? 49% of the population is on some form of public assistance! That is insane! How much of that is really warranted? Those abusing assistance are useless! God and family members only know who these people really are! Then there are those "pumped full of sand bunch!" These people are low information buffoons, and straddle the fence on issues they generally know nothing about or even care! (Useful idiots)! Buffoons that control the government play on these useful idiots. They have managed to put into place a social gauntlet that is unsustainable! It has and is squandering the American treasury; using social issues and lobby power to garner votes both legal and fraudulent! Now don't patronize me on this situation. Don't put the "have v the have not " on the table! We were founded as a free-market Republic! Over the last 70 years we have corrupted that free-agency approach to our economy with socialism. We have run out of everyone else money! Now a serious social issue is on our hands - with even more serious fiscal implication at our doorstep! Whats the solution? No one wants to implicate the Tort System - but that is where most the evil lies. Personal responsibility is taking a serious hit in our society, not to mention accountability! Tort has placed a parasitic fee on all aspects of society and has hindered the ability to make a fair and shareable profit in America! Have a great Thanksgiving!
Nov 27, 2013 20:22:06 #
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Lets see! According to informed sources; whatever... (show quote)
Well, certainly a common "rant"... but I guess I fail to see how it relates to the article that this thread was titled after.
I just replied on another thread that would seem to address your anger and talking points... I didn't mention Tort reform... but it's just another perfect example of the misdirection going on... Sounds plausible... but has little basis of reality to claim it's "where the most evil lies"... LOL... I don't care much for lawyers much myself, but to believe Tort issues are even a significant problem demonstrates little understanding of the fundamental problems we currently face...
Nov 27, 2013 20:50:47 #
TiredOne wrote:
Well, certainly a common "rant"... but I... (show quote)
Not a rant, but perceived frustration on the lack of accountability and fiscal responsibility. You can't see the lack of parent accountability and the abundance of stupidity in these family units? Again no anger just perception. You must be a true tired one not to understand the true ramifications of our Tort system. It has become a fourth branch of government, a parasite - controlling a large percentage of our GNP, yet operates essentially in a defacto arena. Happy Thanksgiving - get some rest!
Nov 28, 2013 06:24:44 #
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Lets see! According to informed sources; whatever... (show quote)
GE is on more " public assistance " ( tax loopholes ) than all the people of Ohio combined .
Nov 28, 2013 07:19:08 #
That's the problem with this country. Most people react after only hearing "part of the story". Criminals seem to have more "rights" than their victims. Everybody has someone who "loves them", it doesn't negate the fact that some people do bad things, no matter how many people "love them". Good post!
Nov 28, 2013 07:52:18 #
Confused wrote:
GE is on more " public assistance " ( tax loopholes ) than all the people of Ohio combined .
What is GE? Thanks. :-D
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Nov 28, 2013 10:40:34 #
Confused wrote:
GE is on more " public assistance " ( tax loopholes ) than all the people of Ohio combined .
That is probably a fact! Another Fact! GE is completely in the back pocket of the current regime! Hypocrisy abounds this Thanksgiving!
Nov 28, 2013 11:08:22 #
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