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Feb 12, 2016 15:39:31   #
Singularity
 
bylm1 wrote:
You don't even make sense, Pete. Why are you asking if God possesses the ability to tell who deserves help? Are you saying that if God doesn't punish someone immediately that it is because he can't tell if they are guilty? Or if God isn't giving them help now that he can't tell their intentions? That is simply crazy. You say you aren't a Christian but you know enough about Christian tenets to know this. I don't think you know squat about Christian tenets. Who is your God anyway? You say you aren't theistic. Does that mean you are trusting yourself only? You talk in circles.
You don't even make sense, Pete. Why are you aski... (show quote)

If everything unfolds according to God's perfect plan and you are unhappy with that plan, who is wrong, you or God? He says the poor will always exist, so you must be prepared to perpetually offer assistance, alms and charity, out of love, to these fellow humans.
And you are exhorted to note that God loves a cheerful giver.

You don't sound cheerful, much.

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Feb 12, 2016 15:44:16   #
Sicilianthing
 
Singularity wrote:
If PeterS is your friend, he should become angry at your shoddy, rude treatment of him!

If he is your enemy, that reply is the opposite from what your Lord and Savior, Jesus, expects you to offer. He commands you to love your enemies. He says it is his second biggest beef! The first is to love Him, of course

I can only conclude that you are a very poor Christian and your commentary on Christianity is fatally flawed, not PeterS.


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PASS !

Nope not my friend ! No way...

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Feb 12, 2016 15:46:27   #
Sicilianthing
 
Singularity wrote:
If PeterS is your friend, he should become angry at your shoddy, rude treatment of him!

If he is your enemy, that reply is the opposite from what your Lord and Savior, Jesus, expects you to offer. He commands you to love your enemies. He says it is his second biggest beef! The first is to love Him, of course

I can only conclude that you are a very poor Christian and your commentary on Christianity is fatally flawed, not PeterS.


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The 2 Party sham perpetuated by the ScumBag Bankster, CFR and TriLateralist special operative interests could careless about Religion so keep religion out of it...

They also don't care about it when they come to murder you with the FED or Foregin entities in disguise...

HINT !

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Feb 12, 2016 15:58:24   #
Singularity
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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PASS !

Nope not my friend ! No way...


Then, my dear, YOU, if a Christian, are commanded to show love for him.

Sorry, them's the rules from your Saviors own words.

If you can believe that kinda thing.

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Feb 12, 2016 16:12:49   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
Single or alone:, Moses killed his neighbor because that neighbor was abusing his brethren. Don't quote what you think you know. Your an atheist, because you said your lord not Our Lord. Your transparent and I see who you are.

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Feb 12, 2016 16:12:51   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Singularity wrote:
If everything unfolds according to God's perfect plan and you are unhappy with that plan, who is wrong, you or God? He says the poor will always exist, so you must be prepared to perpetually offer assistance, alms and charity, out of love, to these fellow humans.
And you are exhorted to note that God loves a cheerful giver.

You don't sound cheerful, much.



Sometimes I am not cheerful. It usually occurs when I read something that has been twisted completely around from what its original intent was, like you have been doing as well as a few others. You have admitted that you are not a Christian, I think. It's pretty difficult to remain cheerful when Bible passages are used to prove something they don't really say. One of my favorite writers, an African-American, said that it is very commendable to take a dollar out of your pocket and give it to someone in need. When you reach into my pocket and take a dollar out, that is considered theft. Ultimately, you will not be the judge of whether an act is charitable or righteous. God, who can see into the heart, will be the judge.

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Feb 12, 2016 16:14:43   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Singularity wrote:
Then, my dear, YOU, if a Christian, are commanded to show love for him.

Sorry, them's the rules from your Saviors own words.

If you can believe that kinda thing.



See what I mean?

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Feb 12, 2016 16:15:43   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Loki wrote:
The Bible was the only book necessary? What about "The Law of Nations" that all the anti-Cruz posters seem to think is the Bible? What about the works of John Locke, whose beliefs influenced John Adams and Thomas Jefferson AND Ben Franklin? Are you discounting the works also of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, and others? Let's not forget Plutarch, either. Almost all of the Founders were well versed in the sciences of the day, and skilled in mathematics also. Most had well stocked Libraries.
The Bible was the only book necessary? What about ... (show quote)


I do not remember the quote per se but we should obey the laws of God and the laws of men except where the laws of man interfere with the laws of God. That in no way discounts the other books of early scholars.

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Feb 12, 2016 16:19:10   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
bylm1 wrote:
Sometimes I am not cheerful. It usually occurs when I read something that has been twisted completely around from what its original intent was, like you have been doing as well as a few others. You have admitted that you are not a Christian, I think. It's pretty difficult to remain cheerful when Bible passages are used to prove something they don't really say. One of my favorite writers, an African-American, said that it is very commendable to take a dollar out of your pocket and give it to someone in need. When you reach into my pocket and take a dollar out, that is considered theft. Ultimately, you will not be the judge of whether an act is charitable or righteous. God, who can see into the heart, will be the judge.
Sometimes I am not cheerful. It usually occurs wh... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Feb 12, 2016 16:22:11   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
bylm1 wrote:
See what I mean?


I do not know if she knows the real meaning of giving as said by our Lord Jesus.

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Feb 12, 2016 16:24:20   #
Singularity
 
bylm1 wrote:
Sometimes I am not cheerful. It usually occurs when I read something that has been twisted completely around from what its original intent was, like you have been doing as well as a few others. You have admitted that you are not a Christian, I think. It's pretty difficult to remain cheerful when Bible passages are used to prove something they don't really say. One of my favorite writers, an African-American, said that it is very commendable to take a dollar out of your pocket and give it to someone in need. When you reach into my pocket and take a dollar out, that is considered theft. Ultimately, you will not be the judge of whether an act is charitable or righteous. God, who can see into the heart, will be the judge.
Sometimes I am not cheerful. It usually occurs wh... (show quote)


Would you be so kind as to point out what is twisted? I would hate to continue to post erroneous stuff.

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Feb 12, 2016 16:42:35   #
Singularity
 
bylm1 wrote:
See what I mean?


Get on the bus, Gus! Are you saying you think others will be surprised that I am an atheist?

Or perhaps you had another point....

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Feb 12, 2016 16:46:54   #
Sicilianthing
 
iFrank wrote:
Single or alone:, Moses killed his neighbor because that neighbor was abusing his brethren. Don't quote what you think you know. Your an atheist, because you said your lord not Our Lord. Your transparent and I see who you are.


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Bingo and Christians will be split down the middle too soon enough...
Everyone is going to be made so uncomfortable they'll be forced to choose a side...

Those who will arm and fight, kill and restore the Republic and those who will cower and hide...

Keep pushing...

Men of God are Warriors too and the time has come.

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Feb 12, 2016 16:53:11   #
PeterS
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Bingo and Christians will be split down the middle too soon enough...
Everyone is going to be made so uncomfortable they'll be forced to choose a side...

Those who will arm and fight, kill and restore the Republic and those who will cower and hide...

Keep pushing...

Men of God are Warriors too and the time has come.


So Christ cares so much about a republic that he is willing to command his followers to fight and kill for it? Oh come now Sici. You're reading your own blood lust in there and not what Christ ever command us to do...

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Feb 12, 2016 16:54:31   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Singularity wrote:
Would you be so kind as to point out what is twisted? I would hate to continue to post erroneous stuff.



Happily. You mentioned to one poster, I think Sicilian, that God commanded us to love our neighbor, which He did indeed command. Then you seem to use that to command to say that Sicilian was not showing love because he disagreed with the other poster. Well, maybe he didn't use the words that you would have chosen to use, but it seems a little presumptive to charge him with hate, or lack of love. Do you think that God's command precludes us from disagreeing with someone? Or does it prescribe degrees? We could disagree forever on that but I'm sure you would agree that God will be the final arbiter of that question. Or, perhaps you wouldn't, I don't know. Anyway it seems a bit unusual for someone who doesn't subscribe to a person's teachings, to use them to prove a point of disagreement with someone else. Just my thoughts. Feel free to disagree.

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