Atheist Physicists Prove God. Anthropic Principle Fails (Page 2): Once again you take the words I was going to say and apply the logic of it... Faith for me is not something I look to...

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Singularity wrote:

Faith is an emotionally based decision to believe ... (show quote)

Once again you take the words I was going to say and apply the logic of it...

Faith for me is not something I look to validate..It already is in my belief...My good sense stands with Faith in my beliefs..Reinforces my beliefs in other words.... :thumbup: :thumbup:

rebob14

Singularity wrote:

Darling, this is just another example of the type ... (show quote)

Religion is irrelevent......we each have one...........what you "know" cannot explain what you see and experience. The evidence of my faith is the fruit of my life. The human mind cannot objectively contain any explaination of reality; it is endlessly subjective.

rebob14

Singularity wrote:

Faith is an emotionally based decision to believe ... (show quote)

Singularity

You took my post, added a new sentence, reposted it in its altered form. This seems to attribute your inserted comment to me, making my argument appear schizophrenic!

Hopefully you will correct this error and apologize.

Singularity wrote:
Faith is an emotionally based decision to believe that which cannot be demonstrated to be real.

If there were to be proof, there would be no need for faith.

What other purpose does faith serve except to dishonestly validate the unproveable?

If faith is satisfying and superior to knowlege, why is there this continual push by religious persons to validate its precepts by proof, by knowledge? Is faith somehow not satisfying enough?

A great illustration of the limits of the mindYour dissatisfaction is not "Satan tempting you", it is your own good sense trying to assert itself.

Little Ball of Hate

Singularity wrote:

You took my post, added a new sentence, reposted i... (show quote)

Faith is the substance things hoped for. The EVIDENCE of things not seen. We have the Bible, God's word. This is real. It contains many prophecies. Prophecies that have come true. Do you have any idea how many prophecies their are about Christ? One person fulfilled every single one of them. The evidence for God is plentiful. You simply need to open your eyes.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Little Ball of Hate wrote:

Faith is the substance things hoped for. The EVIDENCE of things not seen. We have the Bible, God's word. This is real. It contains many prophecies. Prophecies that have come true. Do you have any idea how many prophecies their are about Christ? One person fulfilled every single one of them. The evidence for God is plentiful. You simply need to open your eyes.

We also have the sun (son)
We have the breeze that sustains and gives life
We have the rainbow, a constant reminder of his promise to never flood the land again..
We have Love, exactly what he truly is about..
We have unconditional Faith in simply knowing, with out question of that faith..
We have knowledge given by He so freedom of choice can be made...etcetcetc.....

Singularity

lindajoy wrote:

Once again you take the words I was going to say and apply the logic of it...

Faith for me is not something I look to validate..It already is in my belief...My good sense stands with Faith in my beliefs..Reinforces my beliefs in other words.... :thumbup: :thumbup:

My actual point is that "good" sense (logic) does not validate faith. Faith is a departure from objective reality, a willingness to believe without or in spite of reality. If by its very nature, faith were to be accepted as superior to reality as a proof, the concept of reality itself becomes broken and unusable, and the mind descends into madness.

Don't get me wrong. All humans operate well enough despite little pockets of illogical madness. Often, "no harm, no foul."

But when new facts, proofs and testable theories are formulated, good sense dictates abandoning older incomplete or fallacious theories.

Singularity

lindajoy wrote:

Once again you take the words I was going to say and apply the logic of it...

Faith for me is not something I look to validate..It already is in my belief...My good sense stands with Faith in my beliefs..Reinforces my beliefs in other words.... :thumbup: :thumbup:

My actual point is that "good" sense (logic) does not validate faith. Faith is a departure from objective reality, a willingness to believe without or in spite of reality. If by its very nature, faith were to be accepted as superior to reality as a proof, the concept of reality itself becomes broken and unusable, and the mind descends into madness.

Don't get me wrong. All humans operate well enough despite little pockets of illogical madness. Often, "no harm, no foul."

But when new facts, proofs and testable theories are formulated, good sense dictates abandoning older incomplete or fallacious theories.

Singularity

lindajoy wrote:

Once again you take the words I was going to say and apply the logic of it...

Faith for me is not something I look to validate..It already is in my belief...My good sense stands with Faith in my beliefs..Reinforces my beliefs in other words.... :thumbup: :thumbup:

My actual point is that "good" sense (logic) does not validate faith. Faith is a departure from objective reality, a willingness to believe without or in spite of reality. If by its very nature, faith were to be accepted as superior to reality as a proof, the concept of reality itself becomes broken and unusable, and the mind descends into madness.

Don't get me wrong. All humans operate well enough despite little pockets of illogical madness. Often, "no harm, no foul."

But when new facts, proofs and testable theories are formulated, good sense dictates abandoning older incomplete or fallacious theories.

Singularity

Little Ball of Hate wrote:

Faith is the substance things hoped for. The EVIDENCE of things not seen. We have the Bible, God's word. This is real. It contains many prophecies. Prophecies that have come true. Do you have any idea how many prophecies their are about Christ? One person fulfilled every single one of them. The evidence for God is plentiful. You simply need to open your eyes.

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Singularity wrote:
You took my post, added a new sentence, reposted it in its altered form. This seems to attribute your inserted comment to me, making my argument appear schizophrenic!

Hopefully you will correct this error and apologize!!!.

Singularity

Little Ball of Hate wrote:

Faith is the substance things hoped for. The EVIDENCE of things not seen. We have the Bible, God's word. This is real. It contains many prophecies. Prophecies that have come true. Do you have any idea how many prophecies their are about Christ? One person fulfilled every single one of them. The evidence for God is plentiful. You simply need to open your eyes.

Prettier, but deceptive language, this verse actually states what I just demonstrated!

It basically says,

"We don't know.
Insert FAITH.
Now we know!

It is a cheat code. When you use a cheat code, you LOSE in reality.

NOW YOU STILL NEED TO ACKNOWLEGE AND CORRECT YOUR PREVIOUS ERROR, AS YOUR ALTERATION OF MY POST STILL STANDS, FALSELY ATTRIBUTED AS MY STATEMENT. TRUTH IS IMPORTANT TO ME.

OBVIOUSLY, FAITH IS NOT THE ONLY DISHONESTY YOU CHOOSE TO EMPLOY!

Yes, this is an important issue for me. If you do not correct your ALTERATION of my post, I shall be forced to ask admin to look at this.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Singularity wrote:

My actual point is that "good" sense (lo... (show quote)

Ok then, what is the reality of it, Sin?? Objective what that substantiates Faith is nothing more than a belief without or in spite of?? NOt being sarcastic, I am asking out of curiosity as to your interpretation of what substantiates???.......

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

lindajoy wrote:

Well now, clarification please..Is that a negative... (show quote)

Apparently, you can't see his picture, which is a wet little pussy. Do you read in braille only? Do you think it is a wet little dog?

Also, apparently as long f___king is text in your avatar: it's okay. His f__king minister in his church must have brought up the topic of f___king evolution, f___king great!

Little Ball of Hate

Singularity wrote:

Prettier, but deceptive language, this verse actua... (show quote)

What are you talking about? I have altered nothing. Try to pay attention.

Singularity

lindajoy wrote:

Ok then, what is the reality of it, Sin?? Objective what that substantiates Faith is nothing more than a belief without or in spite of?? NOt being sarcastic, I am asking out of curiosity as to your interpretation of what substantiates???.......

Apologies! I love ya, LJ , but your syntax is unique and I am not sure what you are asking in this instance. I'd be happy to answer, but first, a little clarification?