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Feb 3, 2016 00:18:19   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Interesting video. About 13 minutes long. What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4E_bT4ecgk

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Feb 3, 2016 00:41:58   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Numbers them self came after the fact and are likewise man made application as "designed"...

Constance having exact value and the slightest change upsets the apple cart???

Multi-verse I have read about and find that fascinating but once again having no "proven reality" of even being in existence...We would never "reach it" time wise....

Bottom line, God or energy or a higher mass of energy, whatever yo want to define it as, does and did exist ~~

Always left with wondering, there is not a definitive answer for the non believer...They simply do not have the capacity to believe in anything they can not relate to tangibly, definitively and Faith is not a recognized concept for them either..Without the basic element of being open minded enough to"simply believe" they dismiss any concept of a God because He can not be proven...

Atheist do quote "science" all the time so get ready when they watch this one..It will be discredited just as they do with anything posted...

Arguably this video goes into greater detail and certainly makes you listen intently to what is said with lots of questions going on in my own mind right now~~

Thanks for that~~

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Feb 3, 2016 00:47:19   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
lindajoy wrote:
Numbers them self came after the fact and are likewise man made application as "designed"...

Constance having exact value and the slightest change upsets the apple cart???

Multi-verse I have read about and find that fascinating but once again having no "proven reality" of even being in existence...We would never "reach it" time wise....

Bottom line, God or energy or a higher mass of energy, whatever yo want to define it as, does and did exist ~~

Always left with wondering, there is not a definitive answer for the non believer...They simply do not have the capacity to believe in anything they can not relate to tangibly, definitively and Faith is not a recognized concept for them either..Without the basic element of being open minded enough to"simply believe" they dismiss any concept of a God because He can not be proven...

Atheist do quote "science" all the time so get ready when they watch this one..It will be discredited just as they do with anything posted...

Arguably this video goes into greater detail and certainly makes you listen intently to what is said with lots of questions going on in my own mind right now~~

Thanks for that~~
Numbers them self came after the fact and are like... (show quote)


I once saw a quote from someone. Can't remember who. He said the reason people refuse to believe in God is not because of a lack of evidence, but because they refuse to admit that there is someone who they must answer to. They refuse to admit that they are sinners, because they want to live their lives on their own terms, without any consequences. In other words, the sin of Pride.

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Feb 3, 2016 05:49:35   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
I once saw a quote from someone. Can't remember who. He said the reason people refuse to believe in God is not because of a lack of evidence, but because they refuse to admit that there is someone who they must answer to. They refuse to admit that they are sinners, because they want to live their lives on their own terms, without any consequences. In other words, the sin of Pride.


I like that quote....

Some I have kept when reading different things about Atheist~~~

There is no proof and evidence that atheism is accurate and correct.

"It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion." -Francis Bacon

"Atheism is rather in the life than in the heart of man."
-Francis Bacon

"God exist whether or not men may choose to believe in Him. The reason why many people do not believe in God is not so much that it is intellectually impossible to believe in God, but because belief in God forces that thoughtful person to face the fact that he is accountable to such a God."- Robert A. Laidlaw~~Similar to yours~~

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens

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Feb 3, 2016 08:13:42   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
Interesting video. About 13 minutes long. What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4E_bT4ecgk


I think you're a wet little pussy.

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Feb 3, 2016 08:27:58   #
MarvinSussman
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
Interesting video. About 13 minutes long. What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4E_bT4ecgk


Why not just worship Mother Nature and Lady Luck? You can love Mother Nature and hope/pray to Lady Luck. Why bother with churches and rituals and sin and confession, etc.?

It's such a disappointment looking for answered prayers.

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Feb 3, 2016 08:28:23   #
Kevyn
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
I once saw a quote from someone. Can't remember who. He said the reason people refuse to believe in God is not because of a lack of evidence, but because they refuse to admit that there is someone who they must answer to. They refuse to admit that they are sinners, because they want to live their lives on their own terms, without any consequences. In other words, the sin of Pride.
Their are parts of the universe and it's beginnings or constant state of being that we do not comprehend. Human Knoweledge is constantly chipping away at the unknowns but they are still there. At one time men looked at the sea comparing it to a vessel of water and made the then inteligent inference that it was flat and had an edge you could fall off. Religion is and always has been a system that fills in the unknown, gives explanation for mans mortality and hope for immortality or in the case of some eastern religion a path to a state of bliss. And far more importantly a tool to leverage members of a society or sect to comply with the norms of that society. If the source of religious faith was really divinely inspired it would not be so clearly spread out geographically, the source of all religion is obviously man.

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Feb 3, 2016 08:38:22   #
okie don
 
"Talk not to all men of GOD",
Pythaguras

(or something like that)

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Feb 3, 2016 08:49:17   #
Artemis
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
Why not just worship Mother Nature and Lady Luck? You can love Mother Nature and hope/pray to Lady Luck. Why bother with churches and rituals and sin and confession, etc.?

It's such a disappointment looking for answered prayers.


Wouldn't that be wonderful, I'd be happy to lower that bar to at least respect mother nature. Living in the here and now I believe would be much more worth while, this life we know for sure. Live life honestly and compassionately and you'll be fine and happy, why live it in guilt and fear. It's never really about luck .

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Feb 3, 2016 09:02:33   #
rebob14
 
lindajoy wrote:
Numbers them self came after the fact and are likewise man made application as "designed"...

Constance having exact value and the slightest change upsets the apple cart???

Multi-verse I have read about and find that fascinating but once again having no "proven reality" of even being in existence...We would never "reach it" time wise....

Bottom line, God or energy or a higher mass of energy, whatever yo want to define it as, does and did exist ~~

Always left with wondering, there is not a definitive answer for the non believer...They simply do not have the capacity to believe in anything they can not relate to tangibly, definitively and Faith is not a recognized concept for them either..Without the basic element of being open minded enough to"simply believe" they dismiss any concept of a God because He can not be proven...

Atheist do quote "science" all the time so get ready when they watch this one..It will be discredited just as they do with anything posted...

Arguably this video goes into greater detail and certainly makes you listen intently to what is said with lots of questions going on in my own mind right now~~

Thanks for that~~
Numbers them self came after the fact and are like... (show quote)

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Feb 3, 2016 09:05:53   #
Singularity
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
Interesting video. About 13 minutes long. What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4E_bT4ecgk


Darling, this is just another example of the type of fallacious argument called, "God of the gaps," a variation of the "argument from ignorance."

". . .you will never hear a religious person refer to this argument as the argument from ignorance (as they don’t want to appear to be ignorant), it is usually used in far more subtler forms, but the vast majority of their arguments eventually revert to the following tiresome formula:

I don’t know how something came about (I am ignorant).

Scientists and atheists also don’t know how this thing came about (you are ignorant).

Therefore, a god had to have made it come about (I, therefore, know how it happened).

Conclusion: A god exists.

I have tried to keep the argument as simple and as religion-neutral as possible because this argument has been posited by many different religious faiths that have many different gods.
Although most people (and probably everyone who subscribes to this site) can see the glaring logical fallacy in the above argument, “I don’t know; therefore, I know,” which in itself makes no sense at all, . . "

From: http://www.atheismuk.com/2010/09/06/atheism/arguments-for-the-existence-of-a-god-debunked-part-1/

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Feb 3, 2016 09:06:04   #
rebob14
 
"........faith is a gift from God, lest any man should boast."
(Paul the Apostle)

"........faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God."
(Paul the Apostle)


"These things are spiritually discerned"

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Feb 3, 2016 09:11:17   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
I think you're a wet little pussy.


Well now, clarification please..Is that a negative or a positive???

Do you have an obsession with "wet little pussies"?? This is about the 3rd or 4th time I have seen your recitation of it, so now I'm curious as to why???

Rather than looking at the animation of the picture, did you also read what his message implies?? Do you think he really cares one way or the other???

Can we argue topic rather than person??
For the record I think his avi is funny~~Look at it with humor, dummy, I know you have some...I've seen other posts from you that show it~~

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Feb 3, 2016 09:16:38   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Singularity wrote:
Darling, this is just another example of the type of fallacious argument called, "God of the gaps," a variation of the "argument from ignorance."

". . .you will never hear a religious person refer to this argument as the argument from ignorance (as they don’t want to appear to be ignorant), it is usually used in far more subtler forms, but the vast majority of their arguments eventually revert to the following tiresome formula:

I don’t know how something came about (I am ignorant).

Scientists and atheists also don’t know how this thing came about (you are ignorant).

Therefore, a god had to have made it come about (I, therefore, know how it happened).

Conclusion: A god exists.

I have tried to keep the argument as simple and as religion-neutral as possible because this argument has been posited by many different religious faiths that have many different gods.
Although most people (and probably everyone who subscribes to this site) can see the glaring logical fallacy in the above argument, “I don’t know; therefore, I know,” which in itself makes no sense at all, . . "

From: http://www.atheismuk.com/2010/09/06/atheism/arguments-for-the-existence-of-a-god-debunked-part-1/
Darling, this is just another example of the type ... (show quote)


Thank You , Sin....An objective view with your wisdom shows through..I like that very much..I see what you saying as none of us want to admit ignorance of something believing it makes us weaker etc..I do not look at people who are Atheist or Agnostic as being ignorant at all..I see it more as a quest for more knowledge, factually supported by "data" that is tangible to formulate a different view or position..Searching, in other words..

I am ignorant of many things, yet I know it all~~~ :wink: :lol:
Anyway, Thank You once again...... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Feb 3, 2016 09:26:27   #
Singularity
 
rebob14 wrote:
"........faith is a gift from God, lest any man should boast."
(Paul the Apostle)

"........faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God."
(Paul the Apostle)


"These things are spiritually discerned"


Faith is an emotionally based decision to believe that which cannot be demonstrated to be real.

If there were to be proof, there would be no need for faith.

What other purpose does faith serve except to dishonestly validate the unproveable?

If faith is satisfying and superior to knowlege, why is there this continual push by religious persons to validate its precepts by proof, by knowledge? Is faith somehow not satisfying enough?

Your dissatisfaction is not "Satan tempting you", it is your own good sense trying to assert itself.

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