eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Your eyes are getting sleepy, your eyes are getting sleepy, your eyes are getting sleepy, sleepy, sleepy, sleepy. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ :-)
Now will mommy bring jmo his blanky?

JMHO Loc: Utah

Just can't own up to the fact that you post bogus bullshit, can you, pal? Like I said, you're priceless, pal. You're a born sucker!

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

“If all that Americans want is security, they can go to prison. They'll have enough to eat, a bed and a roof over their heads. But if an American wants to preserve his dignity and his equality as a human being, he must not bow his neck to any dictatorial government.”

Dwight D. Eisenhower (1890-1969) 34th President of the United States, Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces in Europe during World War II

JMHO Loc: Utah

Still can't own up to being suckered, can you...you're phonier than a three dollar bill, pal.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Thanks again jmo. a bit more of what you claim to be "suckered" in this article.What others you hope will ignore:
.........The forces Eisenhower battled against to achieve this “modern miracle” in international and domestic affairs, though, he failed to completely defeat, thus leading to his warning to the American people on his last day in office, 1961, in what is now famously known as the “Military-Industrial Complex Speech”:

“Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions.

Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations......
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1986.htm

JMHO Loc: Utah

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eagleye13 Loc: Fl

JMHO Loc: Utah

Blah, blah, blah...yawn...ho hum...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

It seems to me that you liberals will believe anything that a left leaning report says, instead of checking out the article for yourself. There are many other places to find if a post is correct. Get a life.

Carol Kelly

Churchills definition of Socialism is right on, but for one point. The basis is greed. Those who are too lazy to do anything but want what people who worked hard to gain put those in power who promise to give them everything they want just simply by voting in the Socialist or Communist of their choice. In the end, we all get screwed, no pun intended. K

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"It seems to me that you liberals will believe anything that a left leaning report says"

Louie; You can't tell the difference between "left leaning" , and Right Wing anti Communist and anti Fascist?
Anti NWO/globalists and pro Constitutionalist?
Why is that?

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Saul Alinsky's Radical Spawn
Nelson Hultberg

Most Americans believe that we won the fight against Communism when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 and Khrushchev's famous boast that they would bury us proved to be empty. Not so. Communism is a monster of two guises. There is Marxist-Leninism and there is Gramsciism from Antonio Gramsci, an Italian communist thinker who broke with Marx and Lenin in the 1920s. The former preaches the violent overthrow of capitalism; the latter preaches the subtle subversion of capitalism and its ultimate transformation into tyrannical "mega-statism" over time.

In 1991, revolutionary Marxist-Leninism died, but gradualist Gramsciism still vigorously thrives. In fact one of its main proponents sits in the White House right now, and another proponent is trying to get elected so she can sit there also. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are two nefariously talented advocates of Gramsci's gradualist socialism. Gramsci understood that the workers would never revolt as Marx and Lenin preached until the fundamental philosophical values that supported capitalism and freedom had been destroyed in the workers' minds via ideological indoctrination. Individualism, personal industry, family solidarity, monogamy, private property, patriotism, belief in a Creator God, etc. had to be discredited through education. Then, and only then, could the system of free-enterprise be demolished and replaced with the "communist ideal."

Obama and Clinton learned their lessons from one of Gramsci's top disciples, Saul Alinsky, the famous author of Rules for Radicals published in 1972. Alinsky's screed is a revolutionary lesson in how to organize masses of men and women to hate the system of capitalist freedom, to take it down and replace it with a regimented collectivist system that centralizes government and levels down the productive classes to equality with the less productive classes.

Radical Gradualism

The history of America for the past 100 years has been that of implementing Marx's Communist Manifesto gradually rather than violently. Progressive taxation, centralization of credit and banking, and centralization of schools under government dictates are three of his ten planks that are already solidified in America. Abolition of the right of inheritance and centralization of the means of communication are steadily gaining ground among the people. These five planks are sufficient to bring about the ultimate destruction of capitalist freedom. Gramsci's and Alinsky's vision of gradualist socialism is making great strides.

In Rules for Radicals, Alinsky teaches that true radicals do not flaunt their radicalism. They are infiltrators. They fight from within, slowly, patiently. Their goal is to deconstruct the foundation of values taught by the established institutions of capitalist freedom, to organize communities by agitation and teach them they have the right to seize the wealth of the productive classes because as Marx demonstrated via his "labor theory of value," their profits were stolen from the laboring classes. [Marx's labor theory of value is a gross fallacy, but that's another discussion for another day.]

Is not Barack Obama the perfect embodiment of an Alinsky radical? "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen," he told us in 2012. Like all collectivists, he believes that capitalism is evil incarnate and that government is more responsible for our economic productivity and enterprise than we as individuals are.

Is not Hillary Clinton of the same Alinsky mold? "Don't let anybody...tell you," she told us in a campaign speech earlier this year, "that it's corporations and businesses that create jobs. You know that old theory, trickle-down economics. That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly." In her mind, capitalism must be transformed, and gradualist socialism is the way to do it.

Both Obama and Clinton studied Alinsky in their youth. Obama eagerly taught his organizing methods in Chicago for several years before he ran for political office. Clinton wrote her senior political science thesis at Wellesley College on Saul Alinsky's model for political organization and deconstruction, and then personally corresponded with him for several years afterwards. Alinsky and his mentor, Gramsci, have been hugely influential in both of these politicians' ideological / activist development.

Thus when Obama does something seemingly irrational and counter to America's system of freedom, he is doing it on purpose. The primary goal of all Alinsky disciples is to "deconstruct" the system of capitalist freedom, which they perceive as oppressive and inhumane. This "deconstruction" is to take place by any means necessary, which the deconstructor thinks he or she can get away with.

Alinsky was a total "moral relativist." He preached that one's means must always be judged within the context of one's time and situation. "You do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments," he writes in Rules for Radicals. All ethics are dependent solely upon success of the purpose that one's means are being employed toward. This, of course, leads to the justifiable use of force, theft, bribery, mendacity, even murder to bring about that purpose.

If one wonders why the past 100 years of life on this planet have been a relentless descent into egregious political power lust and wholesale carnage of human lives on the part of all nations' governments, here lies the reason. The socialist-relativist thought of Marx, Lenin, Gramsci, and their disciples such as Saul Alinsky have scooped up millions of verdant minds in their formative years to brainwash them with ideologies of hate for the productivity and nobility that built Western civilization.

The Real War

We are involved in a monumental war of ideas. It is a war that is far more powerful than those of bombs and rifles. The conflict we face today is a war between advocates of collectivist totalitarianism and individualist capitalism. The former manifests in the ideologies of communism, socialism, fascism, Islamism. The latter manifested in the vision of Jefferson and the Founders in 1776. It built the greatest and freest way of life in the history of mankind. But lurking in the souls of many humans is a hatred of freedom and its requisites of self-reliance, courage and creativity. Philosopher Ayn Rand called this "hatred of the good for being the good."

This hatred of freedom is the real motive behind all collectivisms, all totalitarianisms. I believe that the Alinskys, Obamas, and Clintons of life have a built-in animosity toward freedom prevailing in their makeups from birth. If this predisposition is countered with teachings of political-economic rationality and moral probity in one's youth, it will lie dormant and not cause any problems. But when it is mixed with the teachings of collectivist philosophers in one's youth, it springs forth in justifications for massive governmentalism. It spawns Bolsheviks, Jacobins, Fabians, welfarists, nihilists, etc. who then proceed to deconstruct the institutions of freedom in any way they can throughout their lives.

The enemies of freedom have a totally different value system than those who defend freedom. Values lie in the province of the mind and heart. Thus the real battlegrounds of life are not the Vietnams, the deserts of the Middle East, and the Normandy beaches. They are the schoolrooms, the churches, the publishing houses, the movie studios. Ideas move the world. In the beginning was the word, i.e., the truth. Collectivist hatred is bent on replacing that "truth" with a regimented life for humanity.


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Nelson Hultberg is a freelance writer in Dallas, Texas and the Director of Americans for a Free Republic www.afr.org. A graduate of Beloit College in Wisconsin, his articles have appeared in such publications as The American Conservative, Insight, Liberty, The Freeman, The Dallas Morning News, and the San Antonio Express-News, as well as on numerous Internet sites. He is the author of The Golden Mean: Libertarian Politics, Conservative Values. Email: NelsonHultberg@afr.org

TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon

You got suckered into this one. . .
This is the One and Only news site reporting this incident.
Not even the BBC who routinely like to embarrass Americans. I don't even see this on Al Jazeera.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Looks like I did. Oh well, that must have been the purpose.
Will have to be wary of that site, and who sent it.
but I still find this strange;
As far as I know, no bodies were recovered, and the search was given up quite quickly. Any wreckage found?
Thye report said Thousands of square miles were searched. would not the exact location of the collision be recorded and known. That is what made me suspicious. The location of where the soldiers were stationed would verify a lot. Just saying.

Sister Maria Theresa is the 73rd Sorcha Faal of the Sorcha Faal Order, Elected as Mother Superior 3 February 2007.

Born in Dublin, Ireland, the 73rd Sorcha Faal joined the Order in March, 1973 and holds various degrees with both European and United States Universities.

Sorcha Faal has traveled and lectured extensively throughout the World, with her primary focus being the systematic structure of languages serving as a link between thought and sound, and as developed by Ferdinand de Saussure.

Sorcha Faal has further expanded her own research on ‘Linguistic Ordering’ with knowledge gained while a visiting researcher with Russian biophysicist and molecular biologist Pjotr Garjajev on the esoteric structure of DNA and its uses in explaining physic phenomena.

“In accepting this Conclave’s nomination as the 73rd Sorcha Faal of our Order, I express the gratitude of all the Sisters in thanking Sister Lyuha for her guidance as our Sorcha Faal these past 7 years, especially her efforts these past 5 years in re-orienting all of us towards the Western World.

Our Order has always striven to provide to this World that Light needed to dispel the myths inherent in Darkness, but which without we could never see the truest balance between the two.”

Sorcha Faal, 3 February 2007



Brief History of the Order of Sorcha Faal

The Order of Sorcha Faal was established in 588 (BCE) in Tara, County Meath, Ireland, and claim as their Founder the oldest daughter of King Zedekiah, Tamar Tephi.

The name, Sorcha Faal, comes from the ancient Gaeilge branch of the Goidelic languages of Ireland and has the meaning of: Sorcha: She Who Brings Light Faal: the Dark and Barren Place

The Order of Sorcha Faal comprises 18 Monasteries in Ireland, Russia, Egypt, Lebanon, and the United States.

You can join Sorcha Faal’s mailing list by sending your request to: sorchafaal@fastmail.fm

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Turkey Down Two US Marine Helicopters, Killing 12 Soldiers
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1986.htm

Carol Kelly

Mistakes often happen. For instance, OBAMA. K