Barry, CruzMissile & CubanPete are not Eligible PERIOD !
Jan 17, 2016 19:59:09 #
New post on Publius-Huldah's Blog
Natural born citizen status is inherited its not bestowed by the Constitution or Acts of Congress
by Publius Huldah
1. Neither Obama, Marco Rubio, or Ted Cruz are natural born citizens. At the times they were born, their Fathers were not citizens. Location of birth is irrelevant. Those who insist that a person must be born within the US point to Section 212 of Vattel. But one must read all that Vattel wrote on the subject and which is contained in Sections 213-217.
A "natural born" citizen inherits his citizenship from his parents. Just as he inherits his eye and hair color from them, so he inherits his citizenship status. He is "born" with the hair and eye color his parents gave him, and he is "born" with the citizenship status they gave him. No provision in the Constitution made him a Citizen - no Act of Congress made him a Citizen - just as no provision in the Constitution or Act of Congress determined his eye or hair color. His citizenship, eye color, and hair color are all inherited from his parents. THAT's what a natural born citizen is. READ all of the sections on this which Vattel wrote: By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers; the place of birth produces no change in this particular. In my first paper, you can find the links to Vattel and other original source documents illustrating the original intent of "natural born citizen".
2. Our first generation of Presidents were all born as subjects of the British King. There were no US citizens until July 4, 1776 when we proclaimed our Independence. Art. II, Sec. 1, clause 5 contains a grandfather clause which permitted our first batch of Presidents to qualify. They were citizens at the time of the Adoption of our Constitution.
3. It appears that both of Donald Trump's Parents were Citizens at the time he was born. It is irrelevant that his Mother was an immigrant: She came here from Scotland; and later became a US Citizen during 1942 - several years before Donald was born. Donald is a natural born citizen eligible to be President. [But because of the doctrine of coverture which prevailed at the time of our Framing, the status of Donald's Mother is probably irrelevant.]
4. I found another article on this topic which is excellent: http://www.latimes.com/ /la-oe-lee-is-ted-cruz-eligible-to-
5. Our Country would be so much better off if people would stop spouting off about this subject until after they become well-informed. And they can't become well-informed until they have studied this carefully using original source documents and read all the original source documents I cite in my first paper.
And you must detach the result you want from your thinking when you are studying. TRUTH sheds its own Light - and you will NEVER get that Light until you love TRUTH above all things including the outcome you want. I am well aware of the disgraceful cases where peoples' views on this issue are determined by whom THEY want for President.
Be sure to read the short article in the LA Times. The law professor author discusses the 3 ways of reading our Constitution:
original intent (yours truly);
textualism (the words mean what they mean today not what they meant when our Constitution was drafted & ratified);
it's a living, breathing, evolving Constitution which means whatever the Judges, or whoever has the power, says it means.
Which are you? Think hard about the ramifications of each position before you decide.
Natural born citizen status is inherited its not bestowed by the Constitution or Acts of Congress
by Publius Huldah
1. Neither Obama, Marco Rubio, or Ted Cruz are natural born citizens. At the times they were born, their Fathers were not citizens. Location of birth is irrelevant. Those who insist that a person must be born within the US point to Section 212 of Vattel. But one must read all that Vattel wrote on the subject and which is contained in Sections 213-217.
A "natural born" citizen inherits his citizenship from his parents. Just as he inherits his eye and hair color from them, so he inherits his citizenship status. He is "born" with the hair and eye color his parents gave him, and he is "born" with the citizenship status they gave him. No provision in the Constitution made him a Citizen - no Act of Congress made him a Citizen - just as no provision in the Constitution or Act of Congress determined his eye or hair color. His citizenship, eye color, and hair color are all inherited from his parents. THAT's what a natural born citizen is. READ all of the sections on this which Vattel wrote: By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers; the place of birth produces no change in this particular. In my first paper, you can find the links to Vattel and other original source documents illustrating the original intent of "natural born citizen".
2. Our first generation of Presidents were all born as subjects of the British King. There were no US citizens until July 4, 1776 when we proclaimed our Independence. Art. II, Sec. 1, clause 5 contains a grandfather clause which permitted our first batch of Presidents to qualify. They were citizens at the time of the Adoption of our Constitution.
3. It appears that both of Donald Trump's Parents were Citizens at the time he was born. It is irrelevant that his Mother was an immigrant: She came here from Scotland; and later became a US Citizen during 1942 - several years before Donald was born. Donald is a natural born citizen eligible to be President. [But because of the doctrine of coverture which prevailed at the time of our Framing, the status of Donald's Mother is probably irrelevant.]
4. I found another article on this topic which is excellent: http://www.latimes.com/ /la-oe-lee-is-ted-cruz-eligible-to-
5. Our Country would be so much better off if people would stop spouting off about this subject until after they become well-informed. And they can't become well-informed until they have studied this carefully using original source documents and read all the original source documents I cite in my first paper.
And you must detach the result you want from your thinking when you are studying. TRUTH sheds its own Light - and you will NEVER get that Light until you love TRUTH above all things including the outcome you want. I am well aware of the disgraceful cases where peoples' views on this issue are determined by whom THEY want for President.
Be sure to read the short article in the LA Times. The law professor author discusses the 3 ways of reading our Constitution:
original intent (yours truly);
textualism (the words mean what they mean today not what they meant when our Constitution was drafted & ratified);
it's a living, breathing, evolving Constitution which means whatever the Judges, or whoever has the power, says it means.
Which are you? Think hard about the ramifications of each position before you decide.
Jan 17, 2016 21:22:26 #
This is what I found:The Elephant in the Constitution that No One References when dealing with the Natural Born Citizen Issue
Read more at http://sonsoflibertymedia.com/2016/01/the-elephant-in-the-constitution-that-no-one-references-when-dealing-with-the-natural-born-citizen-issue/
Read more at http://sonsoflibertymedia.com/2016/01/the-elephant-in-the-constitution-that-no-one-references-when-dealing-with-the-natural-born-citizen-issue/
Jan 17, 2016 21:26:35 #
littlebit wrote:
This is what I found:The Elephant in the Constitution that No One References when dealing with the Natural Born Citizen Issue
Read more at http://sonsoflibertymedia.com/2016/01/the-elephant-in-the-constitution-that-no-one-references-when-dealing-with-the-natural-born-citizen-issue/
Read more at http://sonsoflibertymedia.com/2016/01/the-elephant-in-the-constitution-that-no-one-references-when-dealing-with-the-natural-born-citizen-issue/
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yep
Jan 17, 2016 21:39:54 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
My question to you is? If you can find this material I can find this material and we can interpret what is wrong with the scholars? Do they just have their heads up their ass and still can't see shit.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
yep
yep
Jan 17, 2016 21:42:27 #
littlebit wrote:
My question to you is? If you can find this material I can find this material and we can interpret what is wrong with the scholars? Do they just have their heads up their ass and still can't see shit.
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yes and so WAR is imminent
Jan 17, 2016 21:42:28 #
littlebit wrote:
My question to you is? If you can find this material I can find this material and we can interpret what is wrong with the scholars? Do they just have their heads up their ass and still can't see shit.
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yes and so WAR is imminent, the scumbags wont listen so they become traitors
Jan 17, 2016 21:52:32 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
New post on Publius-Huldah's Blog br br Natural b... (show quote)
This article quoted does not exist anymore:4. I found another article on this topic which is excellent: http://www.latimes.com/ /la-oe-lee-is-ted-cruz-eligible-to-
Jan 17, 2016 21:54:05 #
littlebit wrote:
This article quoted does not exist anymore:4. I found another article on this topic which is excellent: http://www.latimes.com/
/la-oe-lee-is-ted-cruz-eligible-to-
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ok standby
Jan 17, 2016 22:02:02 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
New post on Publius-Huldah's Blog
Natural born citizen status is inherited its not bestowed by the Constitution or Acts of Congress
Natural born citizen status is inherited its not bestowed by the Constitution or Acts of Congress
Hey, rule out as many of your putzes as you like. As for Obama, all he needed was an American mother, that he had, and the fact that he was born in Hawaii seals the deal. Besides, you've tried everything else to get him out--did you think something as lame as this was going to do it? But hey, you people gobble up your own as much as you like. And excuse me as I sit back and enjoy myself as you do it...
Jan 17, 2016 22:31:17 #
PeterS wrote:
Typical liberal didn't bother reading the articles, just shows you how stupid you are. Why don't you go back and read articles and come back and explained to us why you think after you do. Or is that too hard for you?Hey, rule out as many of your putzes as you like. As for Obama, all he needed was an American mother, that he had, and the fact that he was born in Hawaii seals the deal. Besides, you've tried everything else to get him out--did you think something as lame as this was going to do it? But hey, you people gobble up your own as much as you like. And excuse me as I sit back and enjoy myself as you do it...
Jan 17, 2016 23:17:08 #
PeterS wrote:
Hey, rule out as many of your putzes as you like. As for Obama, all he needed was an American mother, that he had, and the fact that he was born in Hawaii seals the deal. Besides, you've tried everything else to get him out--did you think something as lame as this was going to do it? But hey, you people gobble up your own as much as you like. And excuse me as I sit back and enjoy myself as you do it...
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I have 100million Patriots behind me who are ready to pull the trigger on Traitors when that bell finally rings...
For now you will become silenced and irrelevant when: 'Who Dies Next' at any moment...
Don't end up on the wrong side of History Dirtbag... They will find you.
Jan 17, 2016 23:18:09 #
littlebit wrote:
Typical liberal didn't bother reading the articles, just shows you how stupid you are. Why don't you go back and read articles and come back and explained to us why you think after you do. Or is that too hard for you?
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He's not only Stupid, he's Muslim, a Traitor, brainwashed and he's a cripple too...
Jan 18, 2016 00:00:22 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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He's not only Stupid, he's Muslim, a Traitor, brainwashed and he's a cripple too...
He's not only Stupid, he's Muslim, a Traitor, brainwashed and he's a cripple too...
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Jan 18, 2016 07:37:08 #
Here is the copy from the LA Times: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-lee-is-ted-cruz-eligible-to-be-president-20160110-story.html
Jan 18, 2016 09:26:58 #
littlebit wrote:
This article quoted does not exist anymore:4. I found another article on this topic which is excellent: http://www.latimes.com/
/la-oe-lee-is-ted-cruz-eligible-to-
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Sounds like the MindTrust of the past or should I say Rothschilds funded ThinkTanks made up 3 categories for excuses to broaden their reach of successors...
I call bullshit !
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