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May 13, 2013 09:21:02   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
grazeem wrote:
LIGHTFOOT WROTE:


"I have heard Obama say at least a dozen times that he will use executive privelage to get what he wants for his socialist agenda.." {Then you should be able to produce that text. Are you sure that you're not confusing executive privilege with executive orders? }


"That makes me sick to my stomach as it should all other Americans ..We live in a country that was built on a constitution .Executive privelage was not put in to that constitution to be used as a tool to destroy the very country that it governs or to be used to alter other parts of the law itself.."

{ Care to give an example ? By the way knuckle head, executive privilege is not in the constitution at all....Executive privilege is an implied presidential power that is recognized by the courts, most famously in the U.S. v. Nixon (1974) Supreme Court case. There are generally four areas that an executive branch claim of privilege is based: 1) presidential communications privilege; 2) deliberative process privilege; 3) national security, foreign relations or military affairs, and 4) an ongoing law enforcement investigation. }

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LIGHTFOOT WROTE: br br br "I have heard Oba... (show quote)
:-P

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May 13, 2013 10:07:25   #
General Mosh
 
TheChardo wrote:
Welcome General. I'm the other progressive on here. Most have fled in terror. There are a few intelligent conservatives that you can have semi rational exchanges with, but most are mouth foaming head bangers, many with a religious right wing nut bent. You will soon find them, or they will find you. Good luck!

Yeah I've already seen that too. Ah well, I take solace in the fact that we, the liberals, are the majority (in real life), and these Tea Party wingnuts are far, far in the minority.

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May 13, 2013 11:05:22   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
General Mosh wrote:
Yeah I've already seen that too. Ah well, I take solace in the fact that we, the liberals, are the majority (in real life), and these Tea Party wingnuts are far, far in the minority.


Yea in real life. That's why they hang out here in there little warped world. That's why I'm here , to make them squirm a little.

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May 13, 2013 11:08:56   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
TheChardo wrote:
Yea in real life. That's why they hang out here in there little warped world. That's why I'm here , to make them squirm a little.


Just when did this liberal majority appear? How much of the majority of liberals in today's America depend on that portion of the electorate that has been induced to vote for a living? If you take that portion away, do you really think the rest are liberals?

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May 13, 2013 12:29:19   #
General Mosh
 
Dave wrote:
Just when did this liberal majority appear? How much of the majority of liberals in today's America depend on that portion of the electorate that has been induced to vote for a living? If you take that portion away, do you really think the rest are liberals?

This majority of liberals is very clear. The democrats have the presidency and the Senate, and continue to gain ground in the House. The liberal viewpoint gains ground every single day, and if you talk to the random person on the street you will find an overwhelming amount of them agree with Democratic policy. The Republican party is a great propaganda machine, but finally intelligence is starting to pull ahead.

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May 13, 2013 13:50:30   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
[quote=General Mosh]This majority of liberals is very clear. The democrats have the presidency and the Senate, and continue to gain ground in the House. The liberal viewpoint gains ground every single day, and if you talk to the random person on the street you will find an overwhelming amount of them agree with Democratic policy. The Republican party is a great propaganda machine, but finally intelligence is starting to pull ahead.[/quote

Assuming for a moment you are correct (by ignoring 30 governors and 26 state legislatures controlled by Republicans to do so) - what percentage of those with the liberal view point do so because they are government dependents? Further, assuming the random person in the street can even name one Democratic policy - or even name their own Senators - how do you jump to the conclusion that it is a function of intelligence.

Think this through - suppose the kind of "intelligent" voter who elected and re-elected a Jesse Jackson Jr refrained from voting, how large would the margin of victory be for conservatives principles.

I hope this little thought experiement might get you to realize the real propaganda machine is the one that has you so througly confused

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May 13, 2013 14:37:03   #
grazeem Loc: Arizona
 
Dave,

You are the guy, who's mind is made up, and doesn't want to be confused by the facts.

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May 13, 2013 14:46:23   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
grazeem wrote:
Dave,

You are the guy, who's mind is made up, and doesn't want to be confused by the facts.


Perhaps I'm confused about the facts your refer to because you haven't referred to any facts.

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May 13, 2013 15:11:10   #
General Mosh
 
Grazeem and Chardo, do your best. But I'm not staying here, I've found there is way too much idiocy on this site for me.

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May 13, 2013 15:16:43   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
General Mosh wrote:
Grazeem and Chardo, do your best. But I'm not staying here, I've found there is way too much idiocy on this site for me.


Pretend the following is an airline pilot voice announcement.

Thank you for visiting with us. We look forward to seeing you again in the near future.

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May 13, 2013 15:18:31   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
General Mosh wrote:
Grazeem and Chardo, do your best. But I'm not staying here, I've found there is way too much idiocy on this site for me.


Can't say I blame you.... At least there's no physical contact here

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May 13, 2013 15:21:16   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
AuntiE wrote:
Pretend the following is an airline pilot voice announcement.

Thank you for visiting with us. We look forward to seeing you again in the near future.


You're still here. I thought that you didn't want to play any more?
You never answered my last post....Now what was that about?

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May 13, 2013 15:29:39   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
TheChardo wrote:
You're still here. I thought that you didn't want to play any more?
You never answered my last post....Now what was that about?


My response is, in fact, your question. "Now, what was that about?"

I may have ignored as two close friends from New York and another from Massachusetts advised me once to ignore anything from New Jersey.

Hopefully your middle name is not Henry.

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May 13, 2013 15:41:43   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
[quote=Dave][quote=General Mosh]This majority of liberals is very clear. The democrats have the presidency and the Senate, and continue to gain ground in the House. The liberal viewpoint gains ground every single day, and if you talk to the random person on the street you will find an overwhelming amount of them agree with Democratic policy. The Republican party is a great propaganda machine, but finally intelligence is starting to pull ahead.[/quote

Assuming for a moment you are correct (by ignoring 30 governors and 26 state legislatures controlled by Republicans to do so) - what percentage of those with the liberal view point do so because they are government dependents? { Dave is in a bubble. Don’t get me wrong, he may well be more intelligent than many here. At least he speaks in sentences and doesn’t curse or use disparaging slurs, but he has some strange ideas, like that all liberals are dependent on government in one way or another. Remember the 47% remark? These guys don’t learn}

Further, assuming the random person in the street can even name one Democratic policy - or even name their own Senators - how do you jump to the conclusion that it is a function of intelligence.{There is a difference between knowledge and intelligence, granted, it takes both to make good decisions, but I will also say that the intelligent person, even lacking some knowledge, will make better decisions that those who think that they know it all, but don’t learn by mistakes that are made. Case in point: going back to the failed economic policies of Reagan and the Bushes, which Dave is real big on. Common sense my man.}

Think this through - suppose the kind of "intelligent" voter who elected and re-elected a Jesse Jackson Jr refrained from voting, how large would the margin of victory be for conservatives principles. {I don’t know what he’s saying here. So Jackson screwed up, and that the people who voted for him were stupid? I think that there have been a few Republicans who did some stupid things. Any way, he seems to want to think that people out there are far more conservative than they are. Notwithstanding the number of states with majority Republican’s in office, there is a difference between conservative and crazy. If the general population reflected the insanity on this site, we would not have same sex marriage legal in 11 states and counting, Obama would not have been elected one, leave alone twice, and Rush Limbaugh would be the Senate Majority leader.

I hope this little thought experiement might get you to realize the real propaganda machine is the one that has you so througly confused
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May 13, 2013 15:45:51   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
AuntiE wrote:
My response is, in fact, your question. "Now, what was that about?"

I may have ignored as two close friends from New York and another from Massachusetts advised me once to ignore anything from New Jersey.

Hopefully your middle name is not Henry.


No but there was a Richard Henry "Lighthorse" Lee who for for the Revolution against the British in the battle of Palus Hook (New Jersey) No relation but I once lived there

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