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Name one POSITIVE contribution that Islam has made to the world.
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Dec 30, 2015 19:25:30   #
RWNJ
 
slatten49 wrote:
Two muslim women, Fatima & Miriam al-Firhi, created what is widely considered the world's first & oldest degree-awarding university, Al-Qarawiyyin in Fez, Morocco in 859 AD. It is still operating, to this day. More recently, Mohammad Abdus Salam, Pakastani theoretical physicist won a Nobel Prize in 1979 for his his contributions to the field of theoretical physics, specializing in unifying electromagnetic and weak forces.

That's two, RWNJ, from many listed in the history of Islamic contributions. I suggest you leave confirmation bias behind and do some serious research. Little required was required to find and confirm these two 'discoveries.' :roll:
Two muslim women, Fatima & Miriam al-Firhi, cr... (show quote)


I did not ask for individual contributions. I asked what Islam has contributed. More precisely, the teachings of islam. Everywhere Islam holds sway, there is suffering and death, directly caused by the practice of Islam. Islam destroys. It does not create. Anyone who claims to be a muslim, and is not actively involved in Jihad, is not following the teachings of their prophet, or are being deceptive in order to promote the conquest of their religion.

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Dec 30, 2015 19:40:31   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
RWNJ wrote:
I did not ask for individual contributions. I asked what Islam has contributed. More precisely, the teachings of islam. Everywhere Islam holds sway, there is suffering and death, directly caused by the practice of Islam. Islam destroys. It does not create. Anyone who claims to be a muslim, and is not actively involved in Jihad, is not following the teachings of their prophet, or are being deceptive in order to promote the conquest of their religion.

In other words, you are not only intransigent, but incorrigible. You don't want examples, answers or information...only confirmation of your own entrenched mindset. BTW, you never asked a question. You asked for examples. When examples are given, you change the rules of the game. With regards to this thread, at least, you are not to be taken seriously.

BTW, Islam contributed each of those individuals, who, in return, contributed to global society. :wink: :thumbup:

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Dec 30, 2015 19:47:37   #
RWNJ
 
slatten49 wrote:
In other words, you are not only intransigent, but incorrigible. You don't want examples, answers or information...only confirmation of your own entrenched mindset. BTW, you never asked a question. You asked for examples. When examples are given, you change the rules of the game. With regards to this thread, at least, you are not to be taken seriously.

BTW, Islam contributed each of those individuals, who, in return, contributed to global society. :wink: :thumbup:


I did not change the rules. I never denied that people of any faith, including Islam can be productive members of society. I asked if Islam has contributed anything of value. It has not. In fact it has done nothing but harm. And I repeat. If someone who claims to be a muslim is not involved in Jihad, they are not true muslims, or are being deceitful. This practice is actually taught in the Koran, or one of their other holy books. Islam spreads like a cancer. Everything it touches is corrupted or destroyed. How can you not see this?

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Dec 30, 2015 19:58:05   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Mr Shako wrote:
Then why do they refer to them as "Arabic numbers?" Were they in general use before the child molester swept across the ME?


"Arabic Numbers" were invented in India. As was Damascus Steel. When the Arabs first went on the warpath against the rest of humanity, they were not bashful about appropriating useful technology and calling it their own.

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Dec 30, 2015 20:14:13   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
RWNJ wrote:
Just one. That's all I want. I bet you can't do it. I know what kind of answers to expect. Something about art, or literature, or even contributions to science. Don't even bother, unless you can provide proof for such claims. And you can't. So don't bother.


I can name one. The Muslims "appropriated" both so-called Arabic numerals and "Damascus" steel from India, and carried them west to Europe, where they were introduced to the Christian countries, largely through their conquest of Spain, and trade with Italy. Their constant expansion and religious wars enabled ideas from the west and east to conmingle. Much of what is attributed to Muslims was actually invented elsewhere, and just carried into Europe by trade and war.

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Dec 30, 2015 20:33:41   #
RWNJ
 
Loki wrote:
I can name one. The Muslims "appropriated" both so-called Arabic numerals and "Damascus" steel from India, and carried them west to Europe, where they were introduced to the Christian countries, largely through their conquest of Spain, and trade with Italy. Their constant expansion and religious wars enabled ideas from the west and east to conmingle. Much of what is attributed to Muslims was actually invented elsewhere, and just carried into Europe by trade and war.


OK. But it wasn't intentional, so it doesn't count.

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Dec 30, 2015 20:52:22   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
RWNJ wrote:
And what does Islam teach? It does not teach one to save lives, especially infidel lives. I could therefore make the claim that these doctors are, in fact, not muslim, since they do not practice jihad on their patients.


And that would be stupid.

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Dec 30, 2015 20:55:04   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
RWNJ wrote:
I did not ask for individual contributions. I asked what Islam has contributed. More precisely, the teachings of islam. Everywhere Islam holds sway, there is suffering and death, directly caused by the practice of Islam. Islam destroys. It does not create. Anyone who claims to be a muslim, and is not actively involved in Jihad, is not following the teachings of their prophet, or are being deceptive in order to promote the conquest of their religion.


So anyone who doesn't sell all they have and give it to the poor isn't a true Christian? Sure.

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Dec 30, 2015 21:22:44   #
RWNJ
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
So anyone who doesn't sell all they have and give it to the poor isn't a true Christian? Sure.


Another example of taking Scripture out of context. Jesus never said we should do that. He merely told the man to do so, because He knew the mans heart. He did it as an example to others. The real message is that you cannot value worldly possessions more than a relationship with Christ. There is no reason Christians should be poor. After all, King Solomon was the richest man in the world. As usual, you have no clue what you're talking about. Don't you ever get tired of looking like a fool?

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Dec 30, 2015 22:39:56   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
RWNJ wrote:
Another example of taking Scripture out of context. Jesus never said we should do that. He merely told the man to do so, because He knew the mans heart. He did it as an example to others. The real message is that you cannot value worldly possessions more than a relationship with Christ. There is no reason Christians should be poor. After all, King Solomon was the richest man in the world. As usual, you have no clue what you're talking about. Don't you ever get tired of looking like a fool?


Solomons riches overcame his wisdom.

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Dec 30, 2015 22:47:09   #
RWNJ
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Solomons riches overcame his wisdom.


It contributed to his downfall, but it wasn't the only reason. He still ruled wisely for many years, and did many great things. Can you blame him for letting it go to his head? Could you have done better? You don't need to answer that. It was a rhetorical question.

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Dec 30, 2015 22:53:46   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
RWNJ wrote:
It contributed to his downfall, but it wasn't the only reason. He still ruled wisely for many years, and did many great things. Can you blame him for letting it go to his head? Could you have done better? You don't need to answer that. It was a rhetorical question.


Amazing that a human can have absolute proof of god and his existence/watchfulness/love of you, and yet still fail him. The character of the Hebrews.

And who knows. We don't have that level of contact with the creator. Of course you know, the god part of this is, to me, fiction. Solomons failings, to me, prove the god part of this story is fiction.

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Dec 31, 2015 07:35:47   #
rebob14
 
RWNJ wrote:
Just one. That's all I want. I bet you can't do it. I know what kind of answers to expect. Something about art, or literature, or even contributions to science. Don't even bother, unless you can provide proof for such claims. And you can't. So don't bother.


The Moorish Arch

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Dec 31, 2015 07:49:37   #
kdegru
 
Relative to herding goats you could say that they have often inflicted the goats with STD's but of course I am mistaken because that is not a contribution inflicting animals to torture and disease.

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Dec 31, 2015 07:50:20   #
Radiance3
 
RWNJ wrote:
Just one. That's all I want. I bet you can't do it. I know what kind of answers to expect. Something about art, or literature, or even contributions to science. Don't even bother, unless you can provide proof for such claims. And you can't. So don't bother.


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Here are the achievements of Islam: The conquest of the world for their caliphate, for the glory of their god. The Christians in the US and in Europe are almost surrounded and invaded by Islam people through the help of president Obama and the UN, in the guise of refugees. And finally the completion of world genocide of all infidels and unbelievers.

Other runners-up and methods of killings are: Enslavement, raping Christian and Yasidi women, before being killed; throwing women alive into the lions to be eaten, E.g. by 2 sons of Saddam. Slicing off heads of infants and children, drain their blood and sell to the highest bidders. Burning men alive; chopping off heads, and throwing them into the ocean. Forcing Christians to dig their graves and after digging chop off their heads and push them into the pit they dug. Then after doing all these horrible crimes, the Muslims jump up and down, and shout "Allahu Akbar". meaning their god is the greatest, or praise their god.

Those are the master pieces of Islam for the glory and happiness of their god!! Islam is the religion of peace of president Obama. And most democrats and leftists love them. E.g. Hillary Clinton has MB friends.

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