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Nov 11, 2013 11:07:07   #
larry
 
Kiwegapawa wrote:
You are absolutely right Larry, but one thing further to mention. That pin points anti-gunners sole purpose in the finite. This new point in Gun Registration, is meant totally to override our current laws. This where the existing laws do not allow the invasion of privacy in Registered Guns. There in protecting the lawful gun owner. It is not one large data base that the new Gun Registration would have at one designated department or there in building. As these points are contained by local law enforcement from one community to the next across the United States. But only any point of Law Enforcement are allowed to use these points of Registered Guns according to current law. And they are accessible to all points in Law Enforcement. They are not available to the United Nations as what the finale' of the Anti-Gunners are pushing for in that of the UN ATT wants!

larry wrote:


This is something you will never see coming from the Anti-Gunners. They lie, cheat and use many a smoke and mirror trick to bring about their new world order and to break down our God given rights as our forefathers painstakingly specifically put together to stop such attempts of Absolutism of a tyrannical nature! All I will further say once again, "Only From My Cold Dead Hands"
b color=darkgreen You are absolutely right Larr... (show quote)


I am beginning to realize, that although the police are supposed to guard and protect, they forgot that it is the citizens that motto was written for. Political pressure from the
Federal agencies forces them to become pawns of the power structure. How do we make sure the local and state agencies are true to their domain rather than knuckling under to a tyrannical government. One that provides funding, it is like shooting the cow that provides the milk. They probably won't stay loyal, How can we reinforce this issue.?

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Nov 11, 2013 11:41:49   #
claytonln Loc: Kansas
 
larry wrote:
I am beginning to realize, that although the police are supposed to guard and protect, they forgot that it is the citizens that motto was written for. Political pressure from the
Federal agencies forces them to become pawns of the power structure. How do we make sure the local and state agencies are true to their domain rather than knuckling under to a tyrannical government. One that provides funding, it is like shooting the cow that provides the milk. They probably won't stay loyal, How can we reinforce this issue.?
I am beginning to realize, that although the polic... (show quote)


The police take an oath much like the military. I am sure there would be some who would not hold to that. I have heard on the radio where some in this area have said they would not break that oath if it came to confiscating guns. I think most will stand for the constitution.

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Nov 11, 2013 11:43:58   #
Kiwegapawa Loc: Foothills of the Adirondacks
 
But how do we not vote for the wrong person when the games are being played at the voting booth, or as I pointed out earlier as we just experienced here in New York, when they are picking who gets notified by the Board of Elections when the vote is going down. There in stopping those who are known to vote against their agenda. I would suspect the point of telephoned surveys leading up to the election being the tool used for this purpose. But thats only a guess on my part. But the only place this possibility can exist. If true, there in showing it would not be something accidental.

This brings up back to what I pointed out of legal actions against these less then legal practices and what is derailing it from making into a court of law!


Bigmac495 wrote:
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About the only recourse we have is to not vote for politicians that are for gun control !
Write or E mail your representives telling them you aren't going to vote for anyone who wants gun control passed that will take away our guns from our homes or persons !
Argue for the right to own guns for personel protection .

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Nov 11, 2013 12:05:37   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Kiwegapawa wrote:
But how do we not vote for the wrong person when the games are being played at the voting booth, or as I pointed out earlier as we just experienced here in New York, when they are picking who gets notified by the Board of Elections when the vote is going down. There in stopping those who are known to vote against their agenda. I would suspect the point of telephoned surveys leading up to the election being the tool used for this purpose. But thats only a guess on my part. But the only place this possibility can exist. If true, there in showing it would not be something accidental.

This brings up back to what I pointed out of legal actions against these less then legal practices and what is derailing it from making into a court of law!


Bigmac495 wrote:
b color=darkgreen But how do we not vote for the... (show quote)


I think a State ( I don't re,member which one) re-called some politicians and removed them from office . I also don't know what process they had to go through ?
I think they had to have a state ? vote on it to remove or not remove . I think the states voting procedures are more honest that national ones , and who ever started the absentee early voting process for people other than our military, should be sent overseas !

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Nov 11, 2013 12:07:14   #
claytonln Loc: Kansas
 
Bigmac495 wrote:
I think a State ( I don't re,member which one) re-called some politicians and removed them from office . I also don't know what process they had to go through ?
I think they had to have a state ? vote on it to remove or not remove . I think the states voting procedures are more honest that national ones , and who ever started the absentee early voting process for people other than our military, should be sent overseas !


Colorado recalled two Reps. And they are going after a 3rd.

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Nov 11, 2013 17:07:47   #
larry
 
claytonln wrote:
The police take an oath much like the military. I am sure there would be some who would not hold to that. I have heard on the radio where some in this area have said they would not break that oath if it came to confiscating guns. I think most will stand for the constitution.


My brother was a policeman, and he told me that several times orders were given to harass and intimidate some political persons because the governor did not like their attitude. He said that they were required to make several traffic stops and make claims of speeding, or failure to stop at signs, or weaving in traffic, or going too fast for conditions. but to just give warnings. I told him that that was bogus, He agreed , but said that when the supervising officer tells you to do something, you do it, even if you don't want too, just so you don't get sent into the ghetto every day. I told him he was making it up, but he said he wasn't. I still don't know whether to believe him or not. I have no proof, just his say so. I guess you call this kind of thing hearsay, unproven, but provocative.

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Nov 11, 2013 17:10:43   #
larry
 
claytonln wrote:
To begin with I oppose any new gun laws and probably half of those that we already have.

I don't believe they enforce the law's now and that is the problem, not people having them.

I don't support any type of registration of firearms. I know that there is paperwork that is filled out when you purchase one. What this is used for exactly I have no idea. I had always thought that it was a type of local registration.

The people that I know that carried "throw aways" never used them but did so with the idea that there was a need to do this. I have never questioned what that might be.

I probably should not ave said illegal guns. Probably a better way of saying it was "illegally obtained guns" such as stolen, or someone with a felony having a gun...etc. These are the guns and the people who need to be taken off the streets.
To begin with I oppose any new gun laws and probab... (show quote)


Yeah, I agree, but how do you do that? You don't find them until someone uses them, and then it is too late. You only find out about an illegally owned gun when the gunner is down.

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Nov 12, 2013 01:02:52   #
claytonln Loc: Kansas
 
larry wrote:
Yeah, I agree, but how do you do that? You don't find them until someone uses them, and then it is too late. You only find out about an illegally owned gun when the gunner is down.


I read an article a couple months back about, thugs in Chicago that were busted with unregistered guns. They were taken in and the guns confiscated and then released. If they were caught for possessing those weapons then they should not have been released.

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Nov 12, 2013 09:57:56   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
claytonln wrote:
Colorado recalled two Reps. And they are going after a 3rd.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Thanks for the update.

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Nov 12, 2013 11:53:39   #
claytonln Loc: Kansas
 
Bigmac495 wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Thanks for the update.


I really like this guy.

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/04/communist-survivor-calls-out-gun-grabbing-democrats-as-communists/

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Nov 13, 2013 12:44:37   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 


Yes, he say's it like it is. And he has lived it .

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Nov 13, 2013 12:53:05   #
claytonln Loc: Kansas
 
Bigmac495 wrote:
Yes, he say's it like it is. And he has lived it .


Who would know better than someone who has been there? And there are others that are saying the same thing on other issues.

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Nov 24, 2013 14:15:42   #
Ve'hoe
 
It was Colorado, and they had to go to the voters door to door,,, showing them what the senators (state) had done and what they said,,, and the people voted to recall them.. then it was only within the district they came from,, not "everyone can vote"

Bigmac495 wrote:
I think a State ( I don't re,member which one) re-called some politicians and removed them from office . I also don't know what process they had to go through ?
I think they had to have a state ? vote on it to remove or not remove . I think the states voting procedures are more honest that national ones , and who ever started the absentee early voting process for people other than our military, should be sent overseas !

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Nov 24, 2013 14:19:27   #
Ve'hoe
 
It is simple,,, the dems and slime-publicans tell you who they hate the most,,,right now it is:
Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and Rand Paul

Kiwegapawa wrote:
But how do we not vote for the wrong person when the games are being played at the voting booth, or as I pointed out earlier as we just experienced here in New York, when they are picking who gets notified by the Board of Elections when the vote is going down. There in stopping those who are known to vote against their agenda. I would suspect the point of telephoned surveys leading up to the election being the tool used for this purpose. But thats only a guess on my part. But the only place this possibility can exist. If true, there in showing it would not be something accidental.

This brings up back to what I pointed out of legal actions against these less then legal practices and what is derailing it from making into a court of law!


Bigmac495 wrote:
b color=darkgreen But how do we not vote for the... (show quote)

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