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Nov 18, 2015 17:27:22   #
SamDawkins
 
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2015/11/the-astounding-hypocrisy-of-anti-refugee-christians/

he Astounding Hypocrisy of Anti-Refugee Christians
November 18, 2015 by Adam Lee
With the Syrian civil war plodding through its fourth year, the country is being hollowed out as everyone who has the means to escape flees from the bloodshed. Ordinary Syrians are trapped in a vise between the indiscriminate brutality of Bashar al-Assad’s military and the sadistic terror of ISIS. The United Nations estimates that over four million of them are now refugees. The vast majority have gone to neighboring states like Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan and even Iraq, but tens of thousands are seeking safety in Europe and the United States.
Whether they travel overland or brave the Mediterranean, these people are risking everything in the tenuous hope of finding safety in a foreign land. Sometimes that attempt ends in tragedy, as with Aylan al-Kurdi, a three-year-old boy who drowned when his overloaded boat capsized during the sea crossing. His small, lifeless body washed up like flotsam on a beach in Turkey becoming a searing image of Syrian desperation and Western indifference. And it seems likely that the horrific terrorist attacks in Paris last week will multiply the suspicion and xenophobia that refugees face, even though – as many commenters have pointed out – that’s the kind of slaughter that they’re trying to escape.
President Obama has announced that the U.S. will take in 10,000 refugees, a pitifully inadequate number compared to the scale of the crisis. Yet even that small and faltering step has met ferocious opposition from conservative, religious-right governors like Bobby Jindal (Louisiana), Greg Abbott (Texas) and Robert Bentley (Alabama), among many others, all of whom have proclaimed that they won’t allow Syrian refugees in their states.
This is pure bluster, since under the Constitution, governors have no power to decide that. But it sends an exceptionally dark and ugly message when politicians believe that such brazen pandering to xenophobia is a winning move. The refuseniks are no different than the World War II-era politicians who barred Jewish refugees, driven by racism and paranoid fear that there might be Nazi or Communist agents among them.
Meanwhile, the members of the Republican presidential herd are practically tripping over themselves to be the most bigoted. Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush have both proposed a religious test, arguing that we should only allow Christian refugees in and keep Muslims out (and they’d know which is which… how, exactly?). Even the candidates who’ve made religion their watchword have joined the xenophobia parade: Mike Huckabee suggested that Syrians wouldn’t be able to live in the U.S. because it would be too cold for them; Ben Carson demanded that Congress “swiftly extinguish any programs that might allow an ISIS terrorist to infiltrate the United States disguised as a refugee“. John Kasich, who’s proposed a federal Department of Judeo-Christianity, has said he’d be too afraid to live near refugees.
It’s not just politicians, either. My Patheos colleague Libby Anne has written about Michael Farris, a leading figure in the Christian homeschooling movement, who urged his followers to contact their representatives and demand that no more refugees be allowed into the country. As Libby Anne points out, Farris has previously demanded the U.S. offer asylum to German Christians for no reason other than that they wanted to homeschool and German laws didn’t allow for it – but when it comes to people whose actual lives are in danger, he has nothing but contempt.


It’s astounding that so many self-proclaimed Christians want us to turn away refugees at the border, to greet human beings in need with a barred door and a clenched fist. Aren’t they supposed to be the ones who believe in a book that says this?


“The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt.”
—Leviticus 19:34
Or this?


“Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.”
—Ezekiel 16:49
Or especially this?
“Then the King will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’


Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink? And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee, or naked and clothe thee? And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’
Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’
Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?’


Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’”


In my humble atheist’s opinion, passages like this one are among the best in the Bible. The commandment couldn’t be more explicit, the lesson couldn’t be clearer. To mistreat a needy person or a stranger is to mistreat Jesus. Yet there are those who call themselves Christian, who hold themselves out as the true followers of God’s will, who scorn this passage and aspire to be the ones their own Bible sentences to eternal damnation!


I’m not going to claim that taking in refugees is or could ever be completely safe. Is there some risk in doing this, some minimal possibility that a few fundamentalist would-be killers will try to slip in among the masses of bedraggled, tempest-tossed people fleeing destruction and death? An honest answer would have to be yes. But an honest moral accounting also has to balance that bare possibility against the crushing certainty that millions of human lives hang in the balance, that we have the power to help, and that innocent people will suffer and die if we don’t act. If you demand airtight, unassailable certainty before aiding those in need, you’ll never do any good deed for anyone.
Besides, it’s an irrational fantasy to pretend that we could be safe if only we didn’t take in any refugees. The idea that we can or should erect walls all around the United States and shut the world out is sheerest delusion, peddled by carnival-barker politicians who promise the impossible. And it’s an ugly racist delusion at that, partaking as it does of the belief that people of Middle Eastern heritage are inherently untrustworthy and that we can best protect ourselves by screening them out.

Besides, how is the purely hypothetical danger of refugee terrorism any worse than the all-too-real and ongoing danger of angry, aggrieved white men who commit mass gun murder in movie theaters, or shopping malls, or elementary schools, or churches? The religious right couldn’t care less about that kind of terrorism.

(The purest essence of that supernova hypocrisy is the NRA-backed Texas lawmaker who worried that Syrian refugees would find it too easy to buy guns.)

The war against violent theocracy and Islamism is at its core a war of ideas, of hearts and minds, not of bombs and bullets. If we want to win this war, the way we do it is to prove – by example – that the U.S. isn’t a crusader nation that seeks to subjugate Muslims, but a home and a haven to everyone of every country, race and creed who seeks a better life. And we’re now presented with an unsurpassable opportunity to do just that!
The people at our gates have given up everything to seek refuge. Their lives and their fortunes are in our hands. How better can we show our good will and our compassion than by clasping that outstretched hand and pulling them up? How better can we win their eternal gratitude than by offering them safe haven when they need it most? What better chance will we ever have to disprove, at a single stroke, the ISIS propaganda which says Muslims and the West are eternal enemies? And what immeasurable good will it do for us, if those people then return to their friends and families and spread the word that the United States of America saved their lives!



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Nov 18, 2015 17:42:56   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
There are 2.7 million Christians in Syria. They have no where to go. Obama doesn't want them, (Syrian Refugees in US Include 2098 Muslims, 53 Christians), Europe isn't welcoming them. Israel may be their only hope.

Are you going to cry for the Christians too? Or, are you just going to continue sh!tting on the world's largest religion?

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Nov 18, 2015 17:43:05   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
SamDawkins wrote:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2015/11/the-astounding-hypocrisy-of-anti-refugee-christians/

he Astounding Hypocrisy of Anti-Refugee Christians
November 18, 2015 by Adam Lee
With the Syrian civil war plodding through its fourth year, the country is being hollowed out as everyone who has the means to escape flees from the bloodshed. Ordinary Syrians are trapped in a vise between the indiscriminate brutality of Bashar al-Assad’s military and the sadistic terror of ISIS. The United Nations estimates that over four million of them are now refugees. The vast majority have gone to neighboring states like Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan and even Iraq, but tens of thousands are seeking safety in Europe and the United States.
Whether they travel overland or brave the Mediterranean, these people are risking everything in the tenuous hope of finding safety in a foreign land. Sometimes that attempt ends in tragedy, as with Aylan al-Kurdi, a three-year-old boy who drowned when his overloaded boat capsized during the sea crossing. His small, lifeless body washed up like flotsam on a beach in Turkey becoming a searing image of Syrian desperation and Western indifference. And it seems likely that the horrific terrorist attacks in Paris last week will multiply the suspicion and xenophobia that refugees face, even though – as many commenters have pointed out – that’s the kind of slaughter that they’re trying to escape.
President Obama has announced that the U.S. will take in 10,000 refugees, a pitifully inadequate number compared to the scale of the crisis. Yet even that small and faltering step has met ferocious opposition from conservative, religious-right governors like Bobby Jindal (Louisiana), Greg Abbott (Texas) and Robert Bentley (Alabama), among many others, all of whom have proclaimed that they won’t allow Syrian refugees in their states.
This is pure bluster, since under the Constitution, governors have no power to decide that. But it sends an exceptionally dark and ugly message when politicians believe that such brazen pandering to xenophobia is a winning move. The refuseniks are no different than the World War II-era politicians who barred Jewish refugees, driven by racism and paranoid fear that there might be Nazi or Communist agents among them.
Meanwhile, the members of the Republican presidential herd are practically tripping over themselves to be the most bigoted. Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush have both proposed a religious test, arguing that we should only allow Christian refugees in and keep Muslims out (and they’d know which is which… how, exactly?). Even the candidates who’ve made religion their watchword have joined the xenophobia parade: Mike Huckabee suggested that Syrians wouldn’t be able to live in the U.S. because it would be too cold for them; Ben Carson demanded that Congress “swiftly extinguish any programs that might allow an ISIS terrorist to infiltrate the United States disguised as a refugee“. John Kasich, who’s proposed a federal Department of Judeo-Christianity, has said he’d be too afraid to live near refugees.
It’s not just politicians, either. My Patheos colleague Libby Anne has written about Michael Farris, a leading figure in the Christian homeschooling movement, who urged his followers to contact their representatives and demand that no more refugees be allowed into the country. As Libby Anne points out, Farris has previously demanded the U.S. offer asylum to German Christians for no reason other than that they wanted to homeschool and German laws didn’t allow for it – but when it comes to people whose actual lives are in danger, he has nothing but contempt.


It’s astounding that so many self-proclaimed Christians want us to turn away refugees at the border, to greet human beings in need with a barred door and a clenched fist. Aren’t they supposed to be the ones who believe in a book that says this?


“The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt.”
—Leviticus 19:34
Or this?


“Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.”
—Ezekiel 16:49
Or especially this?
“Then the King will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’


Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink? And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee, or naked and clothe thee? And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’
Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’
Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?’


Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’”


In my humble atheist’s opinion, passages like this one are among the best in the Bible. The commandment couldn’t be more explicit, the lesson couldn’t be clearer. To mistreat a needy person or a stranger is to mistreat Jesus. Yet there are those who call themselves Christian, who hold themselves out as the true followers of God’s will, who scorn this passage and aspire to be the ones their own Bible sentences to eternal damnation!


I’m not going to claim that taking in refugees is or could ever be completely safe. Is there some risk in doing this, some minimal possibility that a few fundamentalist would-be killers will try to slip in among the masses of bedraggled, tempest-tossed people fleeing destruction and death? An honest answer would have to be yes. But an honest moral accounting also has to balance that bare possibility against the crushing certainty that millions of human lives hang in the balance, that we have the power to help, and that innocent people will suffer and die if we don’t act. If you demand airtight, unassailable certainty before aiding those in need, you’ll never do any good deed for anyone.
Besides, it’s an irrational fantasy to pretend that we could be safe if only we didn’t take in any refugees. The idea that we can or should erect walls all around the United States and shut the world out is sheerest delusion, peddled by carnival-barker politicians who promise the impossible. And it’s an ugly racist delusion at that, partaking as it does of the belief that people of Middle Eastern heritage are inherently untrustworthy and that we can best protect ourselves by screening them out.

Besides, how is the purely hypothetical danger of refugee terrorism any worse than the all-too-real and ongoing danger of angry, aggrieved white men who commit mass gun murder in movie theaters, or shopping malls, or elementary schools, or churches? The religious right couldn’t care less about that kind of terrorism.

(The purest essence of that supernova hypocrisy is the NRA-backed Texas lawmaker who worried that Syrian refugees would find it too easy to buy guns.)

The war against violent theocracy and Islamism is at its core a war of ideas, of hearts and minds, not of bombs and bullets. If we want to win this war, the way we do it is to prove – by example – that the U.S. isn’t a crusader nation that seeks to subjugate Muslims, but a home and a haven to everyone of every country, race and creed who seeks a better life. And we’re now presented with an unsurpassable opportunity to do just that!
The people at our gates have given up everything to seek refuge. Their lives and their fortunes are in our hands. How better can we show our good will and our compassion than by clasping that outstretched hand and pulling them up? How better can we win their eternal gratitude than by offering them safe haven when they need it most? What better chance will we ever have to disprove, at a single stroke, the ISIS propaganda which says Muslims and the West are eternal enemies? And what immeasurable good will it do for us, if those people then return to their friends and families and spread the word that the United States of America saved their lives!
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2015/... (show quote)


:lol: :roll:

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Nov 18, 2015 17:45:28   #
bahmer
 
I guess that the terrorist attack in Paris went right over your your tiny pointed head then. That and you obviously don't understand Islam and what it teaches. You also don't understand that Islam is diametrically opposed to Christianity. If you think that you can convert Muslims have a go at it but you will be disappointed I am sure. They don't care how nice and stupid you are as their mission is to make the whole world accept their god allah or face the consequences of death. Your women and daughters will be raped and you men will either be their slaves or killed. Anyone who believes otherwise is stupid and uneducated in the Islam religion/military and lifestyle that they bring with them.

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Nov 18, 2015 17:50:07   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
SamDawkins wrote:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2015/11/the-astounding-hypocrisy-of-anti-refugee-christians/

he Astounding Hypocrisy of Anti-Refugee Christians
November 18, 2015 by Adam Lee
With the Syrian civil war plodding through its fourth year, the country is being hollowed out as everyone who has the means to escape flees from the bloodshed. Ordinary Syrians are trapped in a vise between the indiscriminate brutality of Bashar al-Assad’s military and the sadistic terror of ISIS. The United Nations estimates that over four million of them are now refugees. The vast majority have gone to neighboring states like Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan and even Iraq, but tens of thousands are seeking safety in Europe and the United States.
Whether they travel overland or brave the Mediterranean, these people are risking everything in the tenuous hope of finding safety in a foreign land. Sometimes that attempt ends in tragedy, as with Aylan al-Kurdi, a three-year-old boy who drowned when his overloaded boat capsized during the sea crossing. His small, lifeless body washed up like flotsam on a beach in Turkey becoming a searing image of Syrian desperation and Western indifference. And it seems likely that the horrific terrorist attacks in Paris last week will multiply the suspicion and xenophobia that refugees face, even though – as many commenters have pointed out – that’s the kind of slaughter that they’re trying to escape.
President Obama has announced that the U.S. will take in 10,000 refugees, a pitifully inadequate number compared to the scale of the crisis. Yet even that small and faltering step has met ferocious opposition from conservative, religious-right governors like Bobby Jindal (Louisiana), Greg Abbott (Texas) and Robert Bentley (Alabama), among many others, all of whom have proclaimed that they won’t allow Syrian refugees in their states.
This is pure bluster, since under the Constitution, governors have no power to decide that. But it sends an exceptionally dark and ugly message when politicians believe that such brazen pandering to xenophobia is a winning move. The refuseniks are no different than the World War II-era politicians who barred Jewish refugees, driven by racism and paranoid fear that there might be Nazi or Communist agents among them.
Meanwhile, the members of the Republican presidential herd are practically tripping over themselves to be the most bigoted. Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush have both proposed a religious test, arguing that we should only allow Christian refugees in and keep Muslims out (and they’d know which is which… how, exactly?). Even the candidates who’ve made religion their watchword have joined the xenophobia parade: Mike Huckabee suggested that Syrians wouldn’t be able to live in the U.S. because it would be too cold for them; Ben Carson demanded that Congress “swiftly extinguish any programs that might allow an ISIS terrorist to infiltrate the United States disguised as a refugee“. John Kasich, who’s proposed a federal Department of Judeo-Christianity, has said he’d be too afraid to live near refugees.
It’s not just politicians, either. My Patheos colleague Libby Anne has written about Michael Farris, a leading figure in the Christian homeschooling movement, who urged his followers to contact their representatives and demand that no more refugees be allowed into the country. As Libby Anne points out, Farris has previously demanded the U.S. offer asylum to German Christians for no reason other than that they wanted to homeschool and German laws didn’t allow for it – but when it comes to people whose actual lives are in danger, he has nothing but contempt.


It’s astounding that so many self-proclaimed Christians want us to turn away refugees at the border, to greet human beings in need with a barred door and a clenched fist. Aren’t they supposed to be the ones who believe in a book that says this?


“The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt.”
—Leviticus 19:34
Or this?


“Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.”
—Ezekiel 16:49
Or especially this?
“Then the King will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’


Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink? And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee, or naked and clothe thee? And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’
Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’
Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?’


Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’”


In my humble atheist’s opinion, passages like this one are among the best in the Bible. The commandment couldn’t be more explicit, the lesson couldn’t be clearer. To mistreat a needy person or a stranger is to mistreat Jesus. Yet there are those who call themselves Christian, who hold themselves out as the true followers of God’s will, who scorn this passage and aspire to be the ones their own Bible sentences to eternal damnation!


I’m not going to claim that taking in refugees is or could ever be completely safe. Is there some risk in doing this, some minimal possibility that a few fundamentalist would-be killers will try to slip in among the masses of bedraggled, tempest-tossed people fleeing destruction and death? An honest answer would have to be yes. But an honest moral accounting also has to balance that bare possibility against the crushing certainty that millions of human lives hang in the balance, that we have the power to help, and that innocent people will suffer and die if we don’t act. If you demand airtight, unassailable certainty before aiding those in need, you’ll never do any good deed for anyone.
Besides, it’s an irrational fantasy to pretend that we could be safe if only we didn’t take in any refugees. The idea that we can or should erect walls all around the United States and shut the world out is sheerest delusion, peddled by carnival-barker politicians who promise the impossible. And it’s an ugly racist delusion at that, partaking as it does of the belief that people of Middle Eastern heritage are inherently untrustworthy and that we can best protect ourselves by screening them out.

Besides, how is the purely hypothetical danger of refugee terrorism any worse than the all-too-real and ongoing danger of angry, aggrieved white men who commit mass gun murder in movie theaters, or shopping malls, or elementary schools, or churches? The religious right couldn’t care less about that kind of terrorism.

(The purest essence of that supernova hypocrisy is the NRA-backed Texas lawmaker who worried that Syrian refugees would find it too easy to buy guns.)

The war against violent theocracy and Islamism is at its core a war of ideas, of hearts and minds, not of bombs and bullets. If we want to win this war, the way we do it is to prove – by example – that the U.S. isn’t a crusader nation that seeks to subjugate Muslims, but a home and a haven to everyone of every country, race and creed who seeks a better life. And we’re now presented with an unsurpassable opportunity to do just that!
The people at our gates have given up everything to seek refuge. Their lives and their fortunes are in our hands. How better can we show our good will and our compassion than by clasping that outstretched hand and pulling them up? How better can we win their eternal gratitude than by offering them safe haven when they need it most? What better chance will we ever have to disprove, at a single stroke, the ISIS propaganda which says Muslims and the West are eternal enemies? And what immeasurable good will it do for us, if those people then return to their friends and families and spread the word that the United States of America saved their lives!
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2015/... (show quote)




So how many of these so called refugees are you going to let stay with you? I'm surevyou will have no problem supporting 7 or 8 to start with, then we will increase your intake of so called unvetted refugees untill your house and garage is full, of course your wife and any daughters will have to move as they will not mix well with the ideology of your new house guests. Enjoy the company.

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Nov 18, 2015 17:54:04   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
bahmer wrote:
I guess that the terrorist attack in Paris went right over your your tiny pointed head then. That and you obviously don't understand Islam and what it teaches. You also don't understand that Islam is diametrically opposed to Christianity. If you think that you can convert Muslims have a go at it but you will be disappointed I am sure. They don't care how nice and stupid you are as their mission is to make the whole world accept their god allah or face the consequences of death. Your women and daughters will be raped and you men will either be their slaves or killed. Anyone who believes otherwise is stupid and uneducated in the Islam religion/military and lifestyle that they bring with them.
I guess that the terrorist attack in Paris went ri... (show quote)


Not to mention he completely discounts the opinions of non-Christians who think allowing these people to come here without a good system of vetting them in place is utterly stupid. Stupid, considering the circumstances, beyond the need to argue about it.

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Nov 18, 2015 18:01:01   #
SamDawkins
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
There are 2.7 million Christians in Syria. They have no where to go. Obama doesn't want them, (Syrian Refugees in US Include 2098 Muslims, 53 Christians), Europe isn't welcoming them. Israel may be their only hope.

Are you going to cry for the Christians too? Or, are you just going to continue sh!tting on the world's largest religion?



No religious test for refugees.

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Nov 18, 2015 18:06:45   #
SamDawkins
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
So how many of these so called refugees are you going to let stay with you? I'm surevyou will have no problem supporting 7 or 8 to start with, then we will increase your intake of so called unvetted refugees untill your house and garage is full, of course your wife and any daughters will have to move as they will not mix well with the ideology of your new house guests. Enjoy the company.




Where do refugees live in the United States and who helps them resettle?
The United States is a land of great diversity, and refugees can be found in communities all across the country. Refugees may be resettled in small towns, big cities, or suburban communities. A refugee with close relatives already in the United States will probably be resettled where the relatives live. Otherwise, a resettlement agency will decide the best placement site based on the availability of jobs, housing, and social services.

The resettlement agency, often called the sponsor, is the most important source of information and assistance during the refugees' first months in the United States. The agency does many things: It ensures that refugees are welcomed at the airport; arranges for their housing, furniture, and basic household supplies; conducts orientation; and prepares a resettlement plan. As part of the plan, the agency refers refugees to social services and employment.

- See more at: http://www.culturalorientation.net/learning/about-refugees#7

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Nov 18, 2015 18:17:40   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
SamDawkins wrote:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2015/11/the-astounding-hypocrisy-of-anti-refugee-christians/

he Astounding Hypocrisy of Anti-Refugee Christians
November 18, 2015 by Adam Lee
With the Syrian civil war plodding through its fourth year, the country is being hollowed out as everyone who has the means to escape flees from the bloodshed. Ordinary Syrians are trapped in a vise between the indiscriminate brutality of Bashar al-Assad’s military and the sadistic terror of ISIS. The United Nations estimates that over four million of them are now refugees. The vast majority have gone to neighboring states like Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan and even Iraq, but tens of thousands are seeking safety in Europe and the United States.
Whether they travel overland or brave the Mediterranean, these people are risking everything in the tenuous hope of finding safety in a foreign land. Sometimes that attempt ends in tragedy, as with Aylan al-Kurdi, a three-year-old boy who drowned when his overloaded boat capsized during the sea crossing. His small, lifeless body washed up like flotsam on a beach in Turkey becoming a searing image of Syrian desperation and Western indifference. And it seems likely that the horrific terrorist attacks in Paris last week will multiply the suspicion and xenophobia that refugees face, even though – as many commenters have pointed out – that’s the kind of slaughter that they’re trying to escape.
President Obama has announced that the U.S. will take in 10,000 refugees, a pitifully inadequate number compared to the scale of the crisis. Yet even that small and faltering step has met ferocious opposition from conservative, religious-right governors like Bobby Jindal (Louisiana), Greg Abbott (Texas) and Robert Bentley (Alabama), among many others, all of whom have proclaimed that they won’t allow Syrian refugees in their states.
This is pure bluster, since under the Constitution, governors have no power to decide that. But it sends an exceptionally dark and ugly message when politicians believe that such brazen pandering to xenophobia is a winning move. The refuseniks are no different than the World War II-era politicians who barred Jewish refugees, driven by racism and paranoid fear that there might be Nazi or Communist agents among them.
Meanwhile, the members of the Republican presidential herd are practically tripping over themselves to be the most bigoted. Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush have both proposed a religious test, arguing that we should only allow Christian refugees in and keep Muslims out (and they’d know which is which… how, exactly?). Even the candidates who’ve made religion their watchword have joined the xenophobia parade: Mike Huckabee suggested that Syrians wouldn’t be able to live in the U.S. because it would be too cold for them; Ben Carson demanded that Congress “swiftly extinguish any programs that might allow an ISIS terrorist to infiltrate the United States disguised as a refugee“. John Kasich, who’s proposed a federal Department of Judeo-Christianity, has said he’d be too afraid to live near refugees.
It’s not just politicians, either. My Patheos colleague Libby Anne has written about Michael Farris, a leading figure in the Christian homeschooling movement, who urged his followers to contact their representatives and demand that no more refugees be allowed into the country. As Libby Anne points out, Farris has previously demanded the U.S. offer asylum to German Christians for no reason other than that they wanted to homeschool and German laws didn’t allow for it – but when it comes to people whose actual lives are in danger, he has nothing but contempt.


It’s astounding that so many self-proclaimed Christians want us to turn away refugees at the border, to greet human beings in need with a barred door and a clenched fist. Aren’t they supposed to be the ones who believe in a book that says this?


“The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt.”
—Leviticus 19:34
Or this?


“Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.”
—Ezekiel 16:49
Or especially this?
“Then the King will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’


Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink? And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee, or naked and clothe thee? And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’
Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’
Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?’


Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’”


In my humble atheist’s opinion, passages like this one are among the best in the Bible. The commandment couldn’t be more explicit, the lesson couldn’t be clearer. To mistreat a needy person or a stranger is to mistreat Jesus. Yet there are those who call themselves Christian, who hold themselves out as the true followers of God’s will, who scorn this passage and aspire to be the ones their own Bible sentences to eternal damnation!


I’m not going to claim that taking in refugees is or could ever be completely safe. Is there some risk in doing this, some minimal possibility that a few fundamentalist would-be killers will try to slip in among the masses of bedraggled, tempest-tossed people fleeing destruction and death? An honest answer would have to be yes. But an honest moral accounting also has to balance that bare possibility against the crushing certainty that millions of human lives hang in the balance, that we have the power to help, and that innocent people will suffer and die if we don’t act. If you demand airtight, unassailable certainty before aiding those in need, you’ll never do any good deed for anyone.
Besides, it’s an irrational fantasy to pretend that we could be safe if only we didn’t take in any refugees. The idea that we can or should erect walls all around the United States and shut the world out is sheerest delusion, peddled by carnival-barker politicians who promise the impossible. And it’s an ugly racist delusion at that, partaking as it does of the belief that people of Middle Eastern heritage are inherently untrustworthy and that we can best protect ourselves by screening them out.

Besides, how is the purely hypothetical danger of refugee terrorism any worse than the all-too-real and ongoing danger of angry, aggrieved white men who commit mass gun murder in movie theaters, or shopping malls, or elementary schools, or churches? The religious right couldn’t care less about that kind of terrorism.

(The purest essence of that supernova hypocrisy is the NRA-backed Texas lawmaker who worried that Syrian refugees would find it too easy to buy guns.)

The war against violent theocracy and Islamism is at its core a war of ideas, of hearts and minds, not of bombs and bullets. If we want to win this war, the way we do it is to prove – by example – that the U.S. isn’t a crusader nation that seeks to subjugate Muslims, but a home and a haven to everyone of every country, race and creed who seeks a better life. And we’re now presented with an unsurpassable opportunity to do just that!
The people at our gates have given up everything to seek refuge. Their lives and their fortunes are in our hands. How better can we show our good will and our compassion than by clasping that outstretched hand and pulling them up? How better can we win their eternal gratitude than by offering them safe haven when they need it most? What better chance will we ever have to disprove, at a single stroke, the ISIS propaganda which says Muslims and the West are eternal enemies? And what immeasurable good will it do for us, if those people then return to their friends and families and spread the word that the United States of America saved their lives!
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2015/... (show quote)


OH LORD..we just covered all this in another topic thread...but hey...

Maybe you want a few little rascals like THIS living next door to you!!???

Won't you be..my..NEIGHBOR!
Won't you be..my..NEIGHBOR!...

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Nov 18, 2015 18:18:37   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
Gives a whole new meaning to Dennis the Menace...el Habib

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Nov 18, 2015 18:21:43   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
SamDawkins wrote:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2015/11/the-astounding-hypocrisy-of-anti-refugee-christians/

he Astounding Hypocrisy of Anti-Refugee Christians
November 18, 2015 by Adam Lee
With the Syrian civil war plodding through its fourth year, the country is being hollowed out as everyone who has the means to escape flees from the bloodshed. Ordinary Syrians are trapped in a vise between the indiscriminate brutality of Bashar al-Assad’s military and the sadistic terror of ISIS. The United Nations estimates that over four million of them are now refugees. The vast majority have gone to neighboring states like Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan and even Iraq, but tens of thousands are seeking safety in Europe and the United States.
Whether they travel overland or brave the Mediterranean, these people are risking everything in the tenuous hope of finding safety in a foreign land. Sometimes that attempt ends in tragedy, as with Aylan al-Kurdi, a three-year-old boy who drowned when his overloaded boat capsized during the sea crossing. His small, lifeless body washed up like flotsam on a beach in Turkey becoming a searing image of Syrian desperation and Western indifference. And it seems likely that the horrific terrorist attacks in Paris last week will multiply the suspicion and xenophobia that refugees face, even though – as many commenters have pointed out – that’s the kind of slaughter that they’re trying to escape.
President Obama has announced that the U.S. will take in 10,000 refugees, a pitifully inadequate number compared to the scale of the crisis. Yet even that small and faltering step has met ferocious opposition from conservative, religious-right governors like Bobby Jindal (Louisiana), Greg Abbott (Texas) and Robert Bentley (Alabama), among many others, all of whom have proclaimed that they won’t allow Syrian refugees in their states.
This is pure bluster, since under the Constitution, governors have no power to decide that. But it sends an exceptionally dark and ugly message when politicians believe that such brazen pandering to xenophobia is a winning move. The refuseniks are no different than the World War II-era politicians who barred Jewish refugees, driven by racism and paranoid fear that there might be Nazi or Communist agents among them.
Meanwhile, the members of the Republican presidential herd are practically tripping over themselves to be the most bigoted. Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush have both proposed a religious test, arguing that we should only allow Christian refugees in and keep Muslims out (and they’d know which is which… how, exactly?). Even the candidates who’ve made religion their watchword have joined the xenophobia parade: Mike Huckabee suggested that Syrians wouldn’t be able to live in the U.S. because it would be too cold for them; Ben Carson demanded that Congress “swiftly extinguish any programs that might allow an ISIS terrorist to infiltrate the United States disguised as a refugee“. John Kasich, who’s proposed a federal Department of Judeo-Christianity, has said he’d be too afraid to live near refugees.
It’s not just politicians, either. My Patheos colleague Libby Anne has written about Michael Farris, a leading figure in the Christian homeschooling movement, who urged his followers to contact their representatives and demand that no more refugees be allowed into the country. As Libby Anne points out, Farris has previously demanded the U.S. offer asylum to German Christians for no reason other than that they wanted to homeschool and German laws didn’t allow for it – but when it comes to people whose actual lives are in danger, he has nothing but contempt.


It’s astounding that so many self-proclaimed Christians want us to turn away refugees at the border, to greet human beings in need with a barred door and a clenched fist. Aren’t they supposed to be the ones who believe in a book that says this?


“The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt.”
—Leviticus 19:34
Or this?


“Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.”
—Ezekiel 16:49
Or especially this?
“Then the King will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’


Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink? And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee, or naked and clothe thee? And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’
Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’
Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?’


Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’”


In my humble atheist’s opinion, passages like this one are among the best in the Bible. The commandment couldn’t be more explicit, the lesson couldn’t be clearer. To mistreat a needy person or a stranger is to mistreat Jesus. Yet there are those who call themselves Christian, who hold themselves out as the true followers of God’s will, who scorn this passage and aspire to be the ones their own Bible sentences to eternal damnation!


I’m not going to claim that taking in refugees is or could ever be completely safe. Is there some risk in doing this, some minimal possibility that a few fundamentalist would-be killers will try to slip in among the masses of bedraggled, tempest-tossed people fleeing destruction and death? An honest answer would have to be yes. But an honest moral accounting also has to balance that bare possibility against the crushing certainty that millions of human lives hang in the balance, that we have the power to help, and that innocent people will suffer and die if we don’t act. If you demand airtight, unassailable certainty before aiding those in need, you’ll never do any good deed for anyone.
Besides, it’s an irrational fantasy to pretend that we could be safe if only we didn’t take in any refugees. The idea that we can or should erect walls all around the United States and shut the world out is sheerest delusion, peddled by carnival-barker politicians who promise the impossible. And it’s an ugly racist delusion at that, partaking as it does of the belief that people of Middle Eastern heritage are inherently untrustworthy and that we can best protect ourselves by screening them out.

Besides, how is the purely hypothetical danger of refugee terrorism any worse than the all-too-real and ongoing danger of angry, aggrieved white men who commit mass gun murder in movie theaters, or shopping malls, or elementary schools, or churches? The religious right couldn’t care less about that kind of terrorism.

(The purest essence of that supernova hypocrisy is the NRA-backed Texas lawmaker who worried that Syrian refugees would find it too easy to buy guns.)

The war against violent theocracy and Islamism is at its core a war of ideas, of hearts and minds, not of bombs and bullets. If we want to win this war, the way we do it is to prove – by example – that the U.S. isn’t a crusader nation that seeks to subjugate Muslims, but a home and a haven to everyone of every country, race and creed who seeks a better life. And we’re now presented with an unsurpassable opportunity to do just that!
The people at our gates have given up everything to seek refuge. Their lives and their fortunes are in our hands. How better can we show our good will and our compassion than by clasping that outstretched hand and pulling them up? How better can we win their eternal gratitude than by offering them safe haven when they need it most? What better chance will we ever have to disprove, at a single stroke, the ISIS propaganda which says Muslims and the West are eternal enemies? And what immeasurable good will it do for us, if those people then return to their friends and families and spread the word that the United States of America saved their lives!
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2015/... (show quote)


How many YOU gonna have camped out at your place? You want them you sponsor them...and if they turn up "missing" because they took off and do some terrorist stuff, lets hang you for it!

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Nov 18, 2015 18:23:00   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
SamDawkins wrote:
Where do refugees live in the United States and who helps them resettle?
The United States is a land of great diversity, and refugees can be found in communities all across the country. Refugees may be resettled in small towns, big cities, or suburban communities. A refugee with close relatives already in the United States will probably be resettled where the relatives live. Otherwise, a resettlement agency will decide the best placement site based on the availability of jobs, housing, and social services.

The resettlement agency, often called the sponsor, is the most important source of information and assistance during the refugees' first months in the United States. The agency does many things: It ensures that refugees are welcomed at the airport; arranges for their housing, furniture, and basic household supplies; conducts orientation; and prepares a resettlement plan. As part of the plan, the agency refers refugees to social services and employment.

- See more at: http://www.culturalorientation.net/learning/about-refugees#7
Where do refugees live in the United States and wh... (show quote)


And all of that is paid by people like me, it does not end there, the housing and food wil be a burden for life and ever increasing as they breed like rabbits, and when they realize that is more income it will be abused worse that now, we then have to increase our school budgets that are already in bad shape, we will need a butt load of people teach the children in their native language as they no speaky ours and will have no desire to learn because they will just create a muzzy enclave like they have done in the past....they do not assimilate, cannot as their ideology will not allow that.
Of course we will have to increase the fed gov to oversee all of this,and for a people that are of no use to this country, just a burden of taking care of uneducated people with an ideology that is in direct conflict with this countries values.
You showe a pic of the statue of liberty, i say lets go back and use her like all other immigrants that came here and run them thru ellis island.
These people are not the immigrants of the past that came here to better our country with their skills and desire to work...they will bite the hand that feeds it regardless of what you give them.

And our dumbass president and all these other politicians will never have to live with these people, there will be no refugees in their neighborhoods, and these same people are protected 24/7 by armed security at their mansions.....NO! Let a muzzy country take them....but they do not want them, ever wonder why? Because they are nothing more than a violent burden wherever they go....

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Nov 18, 2015 18:26:25   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
SamDawkins wrote:
No religious test for refugees.
Really? Then why is it that Muslims are passing all the tests without even taking them?

(Note: Greece just caught 4 Syrians (ISIS terrorists) who had fake US passports and were planning on entering the US across the Mexican border)

USCIS wrote:
Under United States law, a refugee is someone who:

Is located outside of the United States

Is of special humanitarian concern to the United States

Demonstrates that they were persecuted or fear persecution due to race, RELIGION, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group

Is not firmly resettled in another country

Is admissible to the United States

A refugee does not include anyone who ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in the persecution of any person on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.

For the legal definition of refugee, see section 101(a)(42) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).
Under United States law, a refugee is someone who:... (show quote)


Here's an idea.

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Nov 18, 2015 18:28:17   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
America Only wrote:
How many YOU gonna have camped out at your place? You want them you sponsor them...and if they turn up "missing" because they took off and do some terrorist stuff, lets hang you for it!


Oh no, there is never responsibility when they turn..not if...but when


BLAME CLIMATE CHANGE AND SAY THATS NOT WHO WE ARE!!

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Nov 18, 2015 18:28:20   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
SamDawkins wrote:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2015/11/the-astounding-hypocrisy-of-anti-refugee-christians/

he Astounding Hypocrisy of Anti-Refugee Christians
November 18, 2015 by Adam Lee
With the Syrian civil war plodding through its fourth year, the country is being hollowed out as everyone who has the means to escape flees from the bloodshed. Ordinary Syrians are trapped in a vise between the indiscriminate brutality of Bashar al-Assad’s military and the sadistic terror of ISIS. The United Nations estimates that over four million of them are now refugees. The vast majority have gone to neighboring states like Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan and even Iraq, but tens of thousands are seeking safety in Europe and the United States.
Whether they travel overland or brave the Mediterranean, these people are risking everything in the tenuous hope of finding safety in a foreign land. Sometimes that attempt ends in tragedy, as with Aylan al-Kurdi, a three-year-old boy who drowned when his overloaded boat capsized during the sea crossing. His small, lifeless body washed up like flotsam on a beach in Turkey becoming a searing image of Syrian desperation and Western indifference. And it seems likely that the horrific terrorist attacks in Paris last week will multiply the suspicion and xenophobia that refugees face, even though – as many commenters have pointed out – that’s the kind of slaughter that they’re trying to escape.
President Obama has announced that the U.S. will take in 10,000 refugees, a pitifully inadequate number compared to the scale of the crisis. Yet even that small and faltering step has met ferocious opposition from conservative, religious-right governors like Bobby Jindal (Louisiana), Greg Abbott (Texas) and Robert Bentley (Alabama), among many others, all of whom have proclaimed that they won’t allow Syrian refugees in their states.
This is pure bluster, since under the Constitution, governors have no power to decide that. But it sends an exceptionally dark and ugly message when politicians believe that such brazen pandering to xenophobia is a winning move. The refuseniks are no different than the World War II-era politicians who barred Jewish refugees, driven by racism and paranoid fear that there might be Nazi or Communist agents among them.
Meanwhile, the members of the Republican presidential herd are practically tripping over themselves to be the most bigoted. Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush have both proposed a religious test, arguing that we should only allow Christian refugees in and keep Muslims out (and they’d know which is which… how, exactly?). Even the candidates who’ve made religion their watchword have joined the xenophobia parade: Mike Huckabee suggested that Syrians wouldn’t be able to live in the U.S. because it would be too cold for them; Ben Carson demanded that Congress “swiftly extinguish any programs that might allow an ISIS terrorist to infiltrate the United States disguised as a refugee“. John Kasich, who’s proposed a federal Department of Judeo-Christianity, has said he’d be too afraid to live near refugees.
It’s not just politicians, either. My Patheos colleague Libby Anne has written about Michael Farris, a leading figure in the Christian homeschooling movement, who urged his followers to contact their representatives and demand that no more refugees be allowed into the country. As Libby Anne points out, Farris has previously demanded the U.S. offer asylum to German Christians for no reason other than that they wanted to homeschool and German laws didn’t allow for it – but when it comes to people whose actual lives are in danger, he has nothing but contempt.


It’s astounding that so many self-proclaimed Christians want us to turn away refugees at the border, to greet human beings in need with a barred door and a clenched fist. Aren’t they supposed to be the ones who believe in a book that says this?


“The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt.”
—Leviticus 19:34
Or this?


“Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.”
—Ezekiel 16:49
Or especially this?
“Then the King will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’


Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink? And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee, or naked and clothe thee? And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’
Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’
Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?’


Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’”


In my humble atheist’s opinion, passages like this one are among the best in the Bible. The commandment couldn’t be more explicit, the lesson couldn’t be clearer. To mistreat a needy person or a stranger is to mistreat Jesus. Yet there are those who call themselves Christian, who hold themselves out as the true followers of God’s will, who scorn this passage and aspire to be the ones their own Bible sentences to eternal damnation!


I’m not going to claim that taking in refugees is or could ever be completely safe. Is there some risk in doing this, some minimal possibility that a few fundamentalist would-be killers will try to slip in among the masses of bedraggled, tempest-tossed people fleeing destruction and death? An honest answer would have to be yes. But an honest moral accounting also has to balance that bare possibility against the crushing certainty that millions of human lives hang in the balance, that we have the power to help, and that innocent people will suffer and die if we don’t act. If you demand airtight, unassailable certainty before aiding those in need, you’ll never do any good deed for anyone.
Besides, it’s an irrational fantasy to pretend that we could be safe if only we didn’t take in any refugees. The idea that we can or should erect walls all around the United States and shut the world out is sheerest delusion, peddled by carnival-barker politicians who promise the impossible. And it’s an ugly racist delusion at that, partaking as it does of the belief that people of Middle Eastern heritage are inherently untrustworthy and that we can best protect ourselves by screening them out.

Besides, how is the purely hypothetical danger of refugee terrorism any worse than the all-too-real and ongoing danger of angry, aggrieved white men who commit mass gun murder in movie theaters, or shopping malls, or elementary schools, or churches? The religious right couldn’t care less about that kind of terrorism.

(The purest essence of that supernova hypocrisy is the NRA-backed Texas lawmaker who worried that Syrian refugees would find it too easy to buy guns.)

The war against violent theocracy and Islamism is at its core a war of ideas, of hearts and minds, not of bombs and bullets. If we want to win this war, the way we do it is to prove – by example – that the U.S. isn’t a crusader nation that seeks to subjugate Muslims, but a home and a haven to everyone of every country, race and creed who seeks a better life. And we’re now presented with an unsurpassable opportunity to do just that!
The people at our gates have given up everything to seek refuge. Their lives and their fortunes are in our hands. How better can we show our good will and our compassion than by clasping that outstretched hand and pulling them up? How better can we win their eternal gratitude than by offering them safe haven when they need it most? What better chance will we ever have to disprove, at a single stroke, the ISIS propaganda which says Muslims and the West are eternal enemies? And what immeasurable good will it do for us, if those people then return to their friends and families and spread the word that the United States of America saved their lives!
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2015/... (show quote)


I thought you where atheist ,you rag on christian's often and with bible verses . We all fall short of grace and fear the worldly things we can not understand such as a muslim holy book that preaches enslavement, brutel torture, beheading, sex with children, wemon treated as property, and many more disgusting acts and laws. You talk the talk but will YOU walk the walk ! I will not subject my family and other loved ones to a culture that would enlsave or kill them . You can allow them in to your home when you move to the middle east and walk the walk..

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