MatthewlovesAyn Loc: Ohio

The 6000 year "crap" as you so delicately put it was derived from the bible by the lineages given IN THE BIBLE from Adam and Eve through Abraham to Joseph. The ages were given, added up, and thus the approximate age of the earth.

What if I "choose" to cheat on my wife, but don't "choose" eternal torment?

Flight was never considered magic. We have seen birds fly since the dawn of man. Probably about 6-7 million years ago.

My contention isn't "Christians don't know everything", it's that there isn't any evidence to back it up. To say god put fossils in the ground just to screw with us, as opposed to being evidence of an evolutionary scale is ludicrous.

P.S. The commas are irritating.

bahmer

The fossils in the ground were generated by the great flood spoken about in the bible and also almost all of the native cultures have reference to the great flood and the large boat that housed all of the animals. These are even depicted in cave drawings and also by the Incas I believe as well as the American Indian tribes had stories about the great flood.

Ve'hoe

1. No,,, those are the ages of the humans in the lineage of christ,,, not the age of the earth,,,, you cant make that leap,,,, (neither can anyone in the christian faith,,,,, but then I have never heard them try... only you antichristian bigots),, next ridiculous stretch,, and breach of intelligence....

2. "Cheating on wife/ not going to hell": I guess if your bible calls it the "10 Options" give it a try,, mine calls it "commandments"....

however,,, when your wife finds out,,, you will wish you could get to eternal burning hell to get a break from her fury,,, be my guest,,,,, next breach of common sense...

When you try it,, and are caught,,,,,,,,,,, you will understand why you shouldnt have done it!!


3. "Flight was never considered magic. We have seen birds fly since the dawn of man. Probably about 6-7 million years ago."

Wait,,, I thought you just did the math,, and there was only 6000 years???? And flight of man,,, only occurred in the last century,, lets see,,,,, 6-7 million,,, minus 100years,,,, well,, thats a lot more than 6000 years

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible.
- Lord Kelvin (1824-1907), ca. 1895, British mathematician and physicist"

"...no possible combination of known substances, known forms of machinery, and known forms of force, can be united in a practical machine by which man shall fly long distances through the air...
- Simon Newcomb (1835-1909), astronomer, head of the U. S. Naval Observatory."

Well,,,, that wasnt so successful on your part,,,, were I you,,,, I wouldnt cheat on my wife,,, you likely arent able to hide it from her..

4. "My contention isn't "Christians don't know everything", it's that there isn't any evidence to back it up.

That is why it is called a belief system,, not a science,, science requires facts,,,,, and that Jesus guy clearly said,,,"Believe first, then you will see"... apparently he doesnt care what you personally "think" either....

5. "To say god put fossils in the ground just to screw with us, as opposed to being evidence of an evolutionary scale is ludicrous."

Ive never heard that one either,,,, do you go to a church who tells you this tripe????....

The chrisitian religion requires less suspension of belief than your idea that an evolutionary scale or a fossil record exists,,,, it doesnt....


6. "P.S. The commas are irritating."

Who gives a sh-t what iritates you,,, I find your anti religious bigotry irritating and offensive,,,, I find your disparaging remarks, made up,,,, and devoid of anything other than a laymans "ideas" about what does or doesnt exist concerning evolution,,,,


Produce some "facts" not your beliefs about someone elses religion... you have even less proof of the spruriousness of their beliefs,,,, than you have proof of your so called science of evolution,,,,

If there is more factual evidence you need to show it,,, so far all you have done is give anecdotal evidence for your point,,,, and disparaged others for belief systems,,,,,, when your version of science is more a superstition than you claim their religion to be.....

(have a few more commas,,,,,,,,)

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Where, in the Bible, does it say that the world is 6000 years old? The words "earth", "year", and "day" in Genesis do not mean what you think they do, not even close.

And, tell us where the first two humans (animals, birds, fish, bugs) came from, or did millions of males and females just show up? If life came from some cell generation in a chaotic primordial soup, explain why it divided all living creatures into a male and female.

A single cell is asexual, it reproduces by dividing itself, so, as things "evolved", who or what decided that two genders were needed? If evolution is the perfect process, why complicate it all with a man and woman, or a male and female anything?

Tell us just when and how humans became self-aware and began to reason and think logically. And, once they achieved this, what compelled them, inspired them, or provoked them to even consider that an infinite creative intelligence created them?

Atheists persist in claiming that man created God, so what in the name of God possessed man to do that? Why would they even consider such a phenomenal idea? And then, for God's sake, they had the gall to write a book about it. WTF was the matter with those people anyway?

sweetlips

i just put this on so dawkins and the ones that think like him, they think they know how we came about, i just want some of their figures to back up their claims and to show there hasn't been enough time for all these mutations they speak of to have happened. I believe we were put here for a reason, not by accidents

MatthewlovesAyn Loc: Ohio

https://answersingenesis.org/age-of-the-earth/how-old-is-the-earth/

Your ignorance of your own supposed religion is almost as boundless as your ability to misinterpret and plain old not understand the written language.

I believe very little of what is written in the christian bible. I don't think the earth is six thousand years old (you blew that one), Birds are heavier than air (that one too), and empty proclamations of belief are just that.

If, for instance, the fossil record as displayed in, say, a natural history museum is not convincing enough to prove the earth is probably billions of years old, nothing I say on this page would be either.

When you get the squiggly line under a word, it means it's misspelled, right-click it and it will give you suggestions for correcting it.

“If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names.”
Elbert Hubbard

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Wrong, those lineages came long after the "earth" (matter) was "without form, and void." The concept of a year as we measure it did not exist "in the beginning." Took awhile for us to figure out that one orbit of the earth around the sun would be our calendar year. Bottom line is that the words "heavens", "earth", "day", "light" "night", "dark", "year", "waters", "firmament" as given in Genesis 1 do not mean what you think they do.

A quite subtle yet important distinction should be noted in Genesis 1. "In the beginning", the words "earth" and "heavens" are not capitalized. Then, in verses 8, God called the firmament Heaven, and in verse 9 and 10, God said, "let the dry land appear and He called the dry land Earth.

Therefore, since there was no possible way to measure a year as, say, 365 days, until the earth actually formed and there was someone there to measure it, the passage of time from verse 1 to verses 8 and beyond could have actually been billions of years.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

What is the purpose of our existence?

sweetlips

i guess you can tell us

Ve'hoe

Or you can lie,,, and misrepresent what you claimed here,,,,, YOU WERE NOT CALLED ANY VILE NAMES.... either,,,, thats a lie...


You claimed the earth was 6000yrs old,,, according to Christians,,,, it isn’t,,,,
And you cited the lineage in genesis,,,, from adam forward,,, which isn’t the age of the earth,,,, it is the age of the lineage of Jesus….

In Genesis,,,, when Cain is cast out,,,, he claims….” “every one that findeth me shall slay me.” Meaning there were other people on the earth,,,,, meaning that the earth and living beings were already there,,, and the lineage was particularly describing the line of jesus,,, not the date of the earth....


“Birds are heavier than air (that one too), and empty proclamations of belief are just that”…. said you...

I guess claiming that Lord Kelvin,,, and his beliefs on flight, are empty proclamation??? Your ability to follow subordinate and parallel thought,,, and then translate it to your writings are what is empty….

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible.
- Lord Kelvin (1824-1907), ca. 1895, British mathematician and physicist"

You mean that same Lord Kelvin,,, who then calculated the age of the earth????? That guy???? Was he “empty again”..??? Or do you just not know science???? Or religion,,,, or history,,,,,,

“,,, in 1899, Lord Kelvin (William Thomson) calculated the age of the earth, based on the cooling rate of a molten sphere, at a maximum of about 20–40 million years (this was revised from his earlier calculation of 100 million years in 1862).”

Worse still,,,, is your confusion,,, between “belief” and “science/knowledge”…. And your dis-ingenuousness at trying to dodge what you actually claimed,,,,, what you said,,, was, that “fossils,,,, were evidence of an evolutionary scale”

How are fossils evidence of evolution???? That isn’t true,,, and you cannot tell how,,,, and certainly not with the sophomoric “well if that doesn’t convince you,,, then I don’t know what will”…..

You made the claim,,,, now produce the “evidence for evolution”….

Just showing a whale skeleton,,,, and a fossil of some dog like creature,,,, does not prove a relation….. nor does the existence of some bones in some museum,,,,


You shouldn’t be so snarky and snide,,,, when your knowledge of all the subjects discussed is only one very thin layer deep……

Prove that connection between fossils and evolution,,,, and you will be a very rich man…. Otherwise,,, you appear just another snarky antichristian bigot... who really doesn’t know anything he is spouting off about….

Waiting for an intelligent response……. (I think I will have one hell of a long wait) I havent gotten much out of you yet....

Ve'hoe

What "vile" names were you called,, honey?????

Your "argument".... was answered,,, you just dont appear to have the requisite knowledge to answer,,,, so you feign,,,, that you were called "vile" names......

And spell check,,,, didnt seem to mean anything to you,,,, why would you try to use it now as a weapon....

Ve'hoe

They dont have any figures,,,,, like this matthewlovesayn guy,,,, he wants to just "snear" his opinion at you,,,, then pretend that "if you dont think like him,,,your stupid" and hope like hell nobody asks anything else.... being afraid to be labeled stupid,,, ( funny coming from a guy who doesnt know the science,,, or the religion he is talking about)

The fossil record isnt complete,, nor does any provable evidence exist for common ancestry,,,, it is a theory,,, and while possibly plausible,,, chemistry in particular has proven its flaws.....

They dont have any facts... they are liberals,,, all they have is emotion and anger...

58 Rambler

thank you for a voice of reason

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

No you can tell us: you've got the podium. This sounds pretty condescending (your comments in bold below), so it's all about you, no need to complain about someone else, please explain your myth. Whether you believe in Creation or Evolution they are both myths, evolution only explains why we are here, but if you're so bent on Creation why are we here? If evolution can't explain why we are here, why can creation explain why we were created. First of all, he created us, tempted us, made it impossible to have a relationship with us, except through Jesus and that purportedly changed the rules such that Jews that converted due to believing that Jesus was the messiah, why is this plausible?....it makes no more sense than trying to explain to you why chemicals, such as Sodium and Chloride become salt. So: In regards to YOUR remarks, why are here?

Sweetlips stated:
...."If you believe in evolution, then we are here by accident, it looks like that the only way we could be here is by accident or on purpose.
So if not by accident, who's purpose. So please, Mr. Dawkins, tell us how many accidents (mutations)did it take to get from a single cell
"something" to a human being, and please include the number of mutations that was bad. Some say as many as 99% of mutations are bad, like maybe 3 legs, 1 arm, 12 toes, etc. Also tell us how often these mutations took place. The odds of all the right amino acids getting together at the exact right time and then to get a kick starter at that time."

Why didn't evolution happen?

58 Rambler

thank you for a voice of reason