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Oct 19, 2015 21:37:24   #
RWNJ
 
Someone on here recently said to me that he's an atheist because God just doesn't make any sense. Specifically, he stated that he cannot understand why an all knowing God would create humans, knowing that many of them would go to Hell. This is a very good question. I believe that I've found an excellent explanation. Take a look at this and tell me what you think. Please do not reply unless you have read the entire article. It's not THAT long.

It's too long to post here, so here's the link. It will take about five to ten minutes for the average reader, and it is well worth reading, assuming you care about your immortal soul. ;-)

http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=12&article=4194

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Oct 19, 2015 23:34:54   #
Anigav6969
 
RWNJ wrote:
Someone on here recently said to me that he's an atheist because God just doesn't make any sense. Specifically, he stated that he cannot understand why an all knowing God would create humans, knowing that many of them would go to Hell. This is a very good question. I believe that I've found an excellent explanation. Take a look at this and tell me what you think. Please do not reply unless you have read the entire article. It's not THAT long.

It's too long to post here, so here's the link. It will take about five to ten minutes for the average reader, and it is well worth reading, assuming you care about your immortal soul. ;-)

http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=12&article=4194
Someone on here recently said to me that he's an a... (show quote)


The problem is, there are many religions that do not even believe that there is a hell....but they believe in God....so, what about them ?.....what about the Budhist monk that does no harm to anyone but chooses Budhism over Christianity....does he go to hell ?....you seem to only be specifically referencing one religion

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Oct 19, 2015 23:49:39   #
RWNJ
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
The problem is, there are many religions that do not even believe that there is a hell....but they believe in God....so, what about them ?.....what about the Budhist monk that does no harm to anyone but chooses Budhism over Christianity....does he go to hell ?....you seem to only be specifically referencing one religion


My post is related to Christianity and the problem many atheists have with it. My arguments are about Christianity only. My arguments are supported by what the Bible says about the nature of God. Nothing else. It is not a discussion about whether or not God exist. It is about how the Bible, Gods own word, describes Him and why he created us. Let's not wonder off topic.

Also, since you are asking questions that were covered in the article I posted, it is obvious that you did not read it. I expected nothing else. If you care to read it and comment on the actual content of said article, I would be happy to discuss it.

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Oct 20, 2015 08:36:59   #
Anigav6969
 
RWNJ wrote:
My post is related to Christianity and the problem many atheists have with it. My arguments are about Christianity only. My arguments are supported by what the Bible says about the nature of God. Nothing else. It is not a discussion about whether or not God exist. It is about how the Bible, Gods own word, describes Him and why he created us. Let's not wonder off topic.

Also, since you are asking questions that were covered in the article I posted, it is obvious that you did not read it. I expected nothing else. If you care to read it and comment on the actual content of said article, I would be happy to discuss it.
My post is related to Christianity and the problem... (show quote)


I read the article...atheists don't have a " problem" with Christianity....they don't believe in God ....duh !......just because you have an invisible friend in the sky, doesn't prove anything...it is irrational and delusional...you can quote the bible all day long...that means nothing.....and the fact that you believe that the majority of the people of the world will consistently go to hell is an awful belief...innocent people, probably family members, that will go to hell for eternity, all because they disagree with you....what a silly belief system

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Oct 20, 2015 09:47:46   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
The problem is, there are many religions that do not even believe that there is a hell....but they believe in God....so, what about them ?.....what about the Budhist monk that does no harm to anyone but chooses Budhism over Christianity....does he go to hell ?....you seem to only be specifically referencing one religion


I believe in God, just not the God of Abraham. I think the problem atheists and others have with Christianity lies with the theory that it is the only true religion. To me, it is a foreign religion, has nothing to do with me. I do not believe there is a heaven or a hell. If that is your belief than are you worshiping your God out of love or fear?

If a person does not believe in the Christian God then the Bible is not a viable resource. If a person does not believe in any God, then no holy book matters. I believe man judges much more harshly than God but then God knows the heart of a person.

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Oct 20, 2015 10:13:07   #
Anigav6969
 
She Wolf wrote:
I believe in God, just not the God of Abraham. I think the problem atheists and others have with Christianity lies with the theory that it is the only true religion. To me, it is a foreign religion, has nothing to do with me. I do not believe there is a heaven or a hell. If that is your belief than are you worshiping your God out of love or fear?

If a person does not believe in the Christian God then the Bible is not a viable resource. If a person does not believe in any God, then no holy book matters. I believe man judges much more harshly than God but then God knows the heart of a person.
I believe in God, just not the God of Abraham. I ... (show quote)


Well said....my point on the article, is that you can't use the Bible as evidence of anything, when most of the world does not believe the Bible to be a viable resource as you say

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Oct 20, 2015 17:03:58   #
RWNJ
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Well said....my point on the article, is that you can't use the Bible as evidence of anything, when most of the world does not believe the Bible to be a viable resource as you say


However, this post is about what the Bible says about God. In my OP I stated that another atheist had a problem believing in God because of the topic discussed in the article I posted. Let's not make this about comparative religion, or whether or not there is a God. How about just discussing the topic at hand? If you can't do that, then please just shut your yap.

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Oct 20, 2015 19:02:53   #
Anigav6969
 
RWNJ wrote:
However, this post is about what the Bible says about God. In my OP I stated that another atheist had a problem believing in God because of the topic discussed in the article I posted. Let's not make this about comparative religion, or whether or not there is a God. How about just discussing the topic at hand? If you can't do that, then please just shut your yap.


Well, if you put it that way., you can kiss my arse...I'll talk about whatever I like...if you don't like it too bad.....I'm sure your friend is an Atheist because he doesn't believe in God....end of story.....unless you can prove God exists...I'm sure he'll continue to be an Atheist

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Oct 20, 2015 19:53:25   #
RWNJ
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Well, if you put it that way., you can kiss my arse...I'll talk about whatever I like...if you don't like it too bad.....I'm sure your friend is an Atheist because he doesn't believe in God....end of story.....unless you can prove God exists...I'm sure he'll continue to be an Atheist


Once again, you prove that you are incapable of having a rational discussion. Why couldn't you simply discuss this in a civilized manner?

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Oct 20, 2015 19:58:10   #
Anigav6969
 
RWNJ wrote:
Once again, you prove that you are incapable of having a rational discussion. Why couldn't you simply discuss this in a civilized manner?


Really ???....instead of just saying something in a civilized manner, you tell me to shut my yap ??....and you expect respect ???....who taught you manners?? They did a terrible job.....I can discuss anything in a civilized manner....you obviously cannot

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Oct 20, 2015 20:05:10   #
RWNJ
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Really ???....instead of just saying something in a civilized manner, you tell me to shut my yap ??....and you expect respect ???....who taught you manners?? They did a terrible job.....I can discuss anything in a civilized manner....you obviously cannot


YOU are the one who jumped on here and started bashing my religion. You refused to discuss the topic at hand, and instead went on a rant about how believing in a Creator is irrational and silly. So. I repeat. If you can't discuss the topic of this thread, then shut your yap.

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Oct 20, 2015 20:53:39   #
Anigav6969
 
RWNJ wrote:
YOU are the one who jumped on here and started bashing my religion. You refused to discuss the topic at hand, and instead went on a rant about how believing in a Creator is irrational and silly. So. I repeat. If you can't discuss the topic of this thread, then shut your yap.


Wrong !!.....read the thread again....YOU are the one that started insulting immediately....you can't help yourself... it's in your nature...you are a phony and a hypocrite....so I respectfully tell you to go shove it up your arse...now run along and play with your invisible friend in the sky ....how's that ??....you don't make the rules here.....if you don't like it....go PHuck yourself ....oh....and God Bless......phony

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Oct 20, 2015 21:00:42   #
RWNJ
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Wrong !!.....read the thread again....YOU are the one that started insulting immediately....you can't help yourself... it's in your nature...you are a phony and a hypocrite....so I respectfully tell you to go shove it up your arse...now run along and play with your invisible friend in the sky ....how's that ??....you don't make the rules here.....if you don't like it....go PHuck yourself ....oh....and God Bless......phony


I did read it. Here. I'll post it again.

"I read the article...atheists don't have a " problem" with Christianity....they don't believe in God ....duh !......just because you have an invisible friend in the sky, doesn't prove anything...it is irrational and delusional...you can quote the bible all day long...that means nothing.....and the fact that you believe that the majority of the people of the world will consistently go to hell is an awful belief...innocent people, probably family members, that will go to hell for eternity, all because they disagree with you....what a silly belief system"

Not. Let us review.

invisible friend in the sky. check. That's an insult.

it is irrational and delusional. Check. Another insult.

what a silly belief system. Check. Another insult.

That's three times you insulted my religion. So, you have nothing of value to contribute to this discussion. I asked you to comment on what was actually posted, and instead you offer insults, foul language and call me a hypocrite. I repeat. Shut your yap. No one wants wants to hear anything you have to say.

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Oct 20, 2015 22:16:32   #
Anigav6969
 
RWNJ wrote:
I did read it. Here. I'll post it again.

"I read the article...atheists don't have a " problem" with Christianity....they don't believe in God ....duh !......just because you have an invisible friend in the sky, doesn't prove anything...it is irrational and delusional...you can quote the bible all day long...that means nothing.....and the fact that you believe that the majority of the people of the world will consistently go to hell is an awful belief...innocent people, probably family members, that will go to hell for eternity, all because they disagree with you....what a silly belief system"

Not. Let us review.

invisible friend in the sky. check. That's an insult.

it is irrational and delusional. Check. Another insult.

what a silly belief system. Check. Another insult.

That's three times you insulted my religion. So, you have nothing of value to contribute to this discussion. I asked you to comment on what was actually posted, and instead you offer insults, foul language and call me a hypocrite. I repeat. Shut your yap. No one wants wants to hear anything you have to say.
I did read it. Here. I'll post it again. br br &q... (show quote)


You friggin liar....and you call yourself a Christian....let's look at your first post to me....oh yeah...you forgot that part :

Anigav6969 wrote:
The problem is, there are many religions that do not even believe that there is a hell....but they believe in God....so, what about them ?.....what about the Budhist monk that does no harm to anyone but chooses Budhism over Christianity....does he go to hell ?....you seem to only be specifically referencing one religion

RWNJ wrote
"My post is related to Christianity and the problem many atheists have with it. My arguments are about Christianity only. My arguments are supported by what the Bible says about the nature of God. Nothing else. It is not a discussion about whether or not God exist. It is about how the Bible, Gods own word, describes Him and why he created us. Let's not wonder off topic.

Also, since you are asking questions that were covered in the article I posted, it is obvious that you did not read it. I EXPECTED NOTHING ELSE..If you care to read it and comment on the actual content of said article, I would be happy to discuss it."

Now what was that all about.???...what did you mean by that ?.....was that a compliment ??....frigging liar...you're a phony and a fraud....admit you threw the first insult....if you don't, we both know you are a liar and that you really don't believe in God...no surprise there

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Oct 20, 2015 22:28:46   #
RWNJ
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
You friggin liar....and you call yourself a Christian....let's look at your first post to me....oh yeah...you forgot that part :

Anigav6969 wrote:
The problem is, there are many religions that do not even believe that there is a hell....but they believe in God....so, what about them ?.....what about the Budhist monk that does no harm to anyone but chooses Budhism over Christianity....does he go to hell ?....you seem to only be specifically referencing one religion

RWNJ wrote
"My post is related to Christianity and the problem many atheists have with it. My arguments are about Christianity only. My arguments are supported by what the Bible says about the nature of God. Nothing else. It is not a discussion about whether or not God exist. It is about how the Bible, Gods own word, describes Him and why he created us. Let's not wonder off topic.

Also, since you are asking questions that were covered in the article I posted, it is obvious that you did not read it. I EXPECTED NOTHING ELSE..If you care to read it and comment on the actual content of said article, I would be happy to discuss it."

Now what was that all about.???...what did you mean by that ?.....was that a compliment ??....frigging liar...you're a phony and a fraud....admit you threw the first insult....if you don't, we both know you are a liar and that you really don't believe in God...no surprise there
You friggin liar....and you call yourself a Christ... (show quote)


It was not an insult. It was a statement of fact, based on previous dealings with you. If you had read the article, why didn't you comment on it? To say that you behaved as expected is not an insult. Now, would you care to actually discuss what was in the article, or will you continue to rant about something else?

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