Bopper

Additional thought: The Tea Party and other groups like http://www.judicialwatch.org/ ARE doing something - find them, support them financially. The Love of money may be the root of all evil but it is the live's blood of all the efforts to recover from the past 100 years of progressive oppression. Now, the question may be "how much is all their effort worth". Quantify it and send it. That will insure that those who have already entered the fight won't run out of gas or loose momentum. Not too complicated. Remember, George Soros is funding hundreds of anti-american organisations. The People need to meet this challenge with purpose and treasure.

In the end, I am certain - if God allows us to fall or He saves us for another go at it - His will, will be done. Meantime, let us do what we can - as we try not to loose sight of just who is, in fact, in charge - cause He'll do the rest, you know...What we can't do.

claytonln Loc: Kansas

Sir, you must have faith in your fellow man. ;) :shock: Uh Oh! that may get me rebuked. :XD:

Artemis

I think your right about that party, but I'm for no parties, they divide us and pin each other against each other and play right into the politicians hands.

trucksterbud

[Though I am strongly against any talk of secession, of biting off our nose to spite our face, I very well understand the sentiment. Yet such a move would be totally ruinous for the US as well as any gains we may be deluded into thinking we could achieve. Sheer madness and to me, un-patriotic.

If we sincerely love this "great experiment" called the UNITED STATES of America, we will leave the insults and name calling at the door for a higher purpose: these things are only acting to keep we the people impotent in making the needed changes. I am not saying give up your Left or Right leaning principles and values; I am asking that we act as we the people to resolve this present lack of power all in the states--the UNITED STATES--are experiencing.

WTP (We The People) party to go to any political function and voceferiously demand a change to how Congress works. This bicarmel charade is killing us. Lobbies control this country, and both sides are in their pocket.

"Stop Watch" is another idea I feel both sides can come together: end domestic spying. This call can also mean the clock is ticking for any politician who will not fight for this goal.

Anyway, I present this as a forum for positive ways we the people can take action and change things.[/quote]

Sir,

To direct you in the proper context, you have to expand your knowledge - also in the proper context. First, the UNITED STATES is not a country, it is a corporation. This is proven in several ways, both by court ruling and by comment from educated judges. Second, there are already several groups attempting to do same of what you seek. The only problem is they don't understand the root cause of what is going on. And at the root cause, is also the bottom line reason for the increasing POLICE STATE as under DHS and TSA, which in reality neither one is constitutional ( they were enacted by executive fiat and overrun the individual STATES sovereignty. )

The ruling by the dissenting judges on ObamaCare or the Affordable Care Act ( ACA ) clearly states and defines that Obamacare and its provisions are clearly a violation of federal constitutional law. ALL laws concerning taxation or regulation of commerce MUST originate in the House of Representatives. The dissenting judges in their statements - which incidentally have strangely been censored - clearly indicate that the Supreme Court Judges who believe in the Founding Fathers version of government, do believe that the STATES are SOVERIGN with respect to the FEDERAL BOONDOGGLE that is now forced upon us. What is SOVERIGN - ?? Blacks Law Dictionary defines Soverign: As most high, supreme in power, no other powers above it. And this is how the States and Founding Fathers envisioned it.

However, in Feb. 12, 1871 Congress committed treason against the people by colluding with the INTERNATIONAL BANKERS as the Original States were broke after the Civil War. We have been enslaved for about 142 years to said international bankers. This is a matter of Congressional Record. Also, there could have been a remedy, assuming there were HONEST MEN AND WOMEN in government, but as you can see, there are none. And rest assured, as interested as Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are in continuing this ACA without delay, they are in over their heads in Fraud and Treason, Conflict of Interest, as they most likely have ALREADY PROFITED GREATLY from ObamaCare. If the truth were known, we could get Pelosi and Reid thrown in prison for life over the ACA.

Judge Alido and Thomas dissented with the ACA as they saw it as the ABOMINATION it is. It is purely a campaign of redistribution of wealth, and a socialist attack on the freedoms of the people. As with the ACA, Obama and his cronies now invoke the power of the IRS against all who defy this blatant attack on FREEDOM. The ACA invades even the most basic of your freedoms. Just check out what happened to an individual who went to the gov. website to merely check into health care options. He was assaulted within 24 hours ( the only way I can describe what happened ) by the IRS with threats to put a lein on his property, and if the fines weren't paid within 24 months, the IRS would revoke his drivers license. Hows that for fairness..??

Check the links below for more infor, and a detailed assessment of the UNITED STATES INCORPORATED.

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claytonln Loc: Kansas

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slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

:roll: I do not rebuke that faith, but, 'tis very difficult at times. :wink: :mrgreen:

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

What is interesting is all these odd little conspiracy packs spouting political insanities on the internet. How very odd.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

If we can't find a common ground with the mix of voices on this site it would be a waste of time & effort to try start any thing more formal.

We need to gather the different voices. We are too divided at this time & need to focus on things we can all agree on first.

Our task is to bring together not to seek to sell our plan that will still leave us divided with others.

bigbadstraytomcat

God is no longer with the United States.He has turned the country over Satin who is running our government now. Satin will only laugh at your demonstration and petitions. He and his demons have the congress, judicial,and executive well under their control. (ISAIAH 1-7) "Your country is desolate,your city burned with fire. (look at Detroit many other city like it) Your fields are being stripped by foreigners right before your eyes laid waste as when overthrown by strangers". When I ride the public transportation or do business inn a store or observe men working on the road they are not speaking English:Are we not living in Babylon? (ISAIAH 1-9)" The looks on their faces testifies against them"they parade their sins like Sodom; they do not hide it. Wow to the them they have brought disaster upon themselves." Gay marriage is an example. (ISAIAH 1-12) Youth oppress my people, Kids do as they please. Women are taking over the courts and congress. Now we may even have women president in 2016.It is a disgrace for men to be ruled by women. The only thing that can save this country is prayer,fasting and repentance only will save this country. Voting, demonstration and petition will be to no avail. ,

claytonln Loc: Kansas

You are very right. :lol: :thumbup: :thumbup:

zonkedout1 Loc: Wyoming

Yeah. It's crazy. The way corruption is rampant, and we dehumanize the people that point it out. The way that the governments pay for people to make light of it on our boards, The way that conspiracy has become synonymous with insane (unless our government prosecutes it. ) It's all very crazt. The way we trust the untrustworthy. Feel that war is strength. And use taxpayer dollars from moral people, to dehumanize the rest.

claytonln Loc: Kansas

I am not convinced that this country is all that divided. I still believe that the basic principles are still agreed upon. It is the superfluous BS, that comes to the forefront that is not agreed upon.

joe1941

How can we un-do all of the damage done in public schools?

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

God is never on any ones side. We are here & need to solve the problems together. You & I & those who's life's we touch.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

That is what we have to build on. Our faith in each other.