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Sep 28, 2015 16:48:53   #
KHH1
 
Trump Tries, But Fails To Draw a Black Audience

Trump South Carolina Event
Attendees at event sponsored by South Carolina African-American Chamber of Commerce predominantly white.

Donald Trump says Black people love him. At an event in South Carolina last week he even pulled out a poll from his pocket showing “huge” support among Blacks, yet at that very event, co-sponsored by the state’s African-American Chamber of Commerce, there were very few African-Americans in attendance.

Most of the people in attendance, which totaled about 500, according to ThinkProgress, were white, Southern, loyal Trump supporters — a key part of his base. Yet that did not stop Trump from highlighting his appeal among African-Americans and citing polls showing he is winning the Black vote.

It is unclear whether Trump noticed the crowd was predominantly white or whether his remarks were prepared anticipating a predominantly Black audience being that he was speaking to business leaders at a meeting of the Greater Charleston Business Alliance, which supports minority businesses and is affiliated with the South Carolina African American Chamber of Commerce.

“The polls are through the roof,” Trump exclaimed. Pulling out a poll from SurveyUSA that shows him getting 25 percent of the Black vote in a match-up against Hillary Clinton, Trump said: “Here’s a poll, Trump receives 25 percent of the Black vote in general election … If you win 25 percent of the Black vote, it’s over, you win!”

He added: “Generally, Republicans do not do well with African-Americans. I have a lot of friends, African-Americans in New York, they say, ‘You’re going to get most of the vote.’ I was actually disappointed with the 25 percent.”

However, according to most national polls, Trump in fact is not doing so well with the Black community. In a Quinnipiac University poll released last month, Trump received only 3 percent of Black support in a match-up against Clinton. And a Washington Post-ABC News poll this month shows African Americans oppose Trump’s policies even more than Latinos, a group he has insulted since day one of his candidacy for president. On immigration alone, 81 percent of Blacks have an unfavorable opinion of Trump, compared with 75 percent of Latinos.

Ironically, among the 15 Republican presidential candidates, Trump did best among Black Republicans and independents in a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll.

Trump is still fresh off criticism that he did not correct a supporter who said Muslims are the problem in this country, and he has been the butt of more jokes based on the premise that he’s a racist. During the Emmy Awards last week host Andy Samberg plainly stated as such.

Whether Trump is a racist or simply panders to racists and bigots depends on who you ask, but among his supporters, many have repeatedly demonstrated intolerance for Blacks, Latinos, Muslims and gay people.

And even at events such as this one co-sponsored by a Black organization, Trump’s supporters are not afraid to show up and express their strong feelings on racial issues. In fact, their views mirror those of the “white nationalists” described in a feature on Trump in The New Yorker last month.

“Ever since the Tea Party’s peak, in 2010, and its fade, citizens on the American far right — Patriot militias, border vigilantes, white supremacists — have searched for a standard-bearer, and now [they’ve] found him,” The New Yorker said. “In the past, ‘white nationalists,’ as they call themselves, had described Trump as a ‘Jew-lover,’ but the new tone of his campaign was a revelation.”

Attendees at the South Carolina event acknowledged a racial divide but blamed the Black community.

“I think the black community should be first in addressing their problems,” South Carolina resident Margarita Lynn told ThinkProgress when asked if Trump could bridge the racial divide in the country. “I think the Black community is held hostage to a small minority of Black criminals, and until the Black community itself rises up to protect themselves against this small element of Black criminals that are overpowering their communities, very little can be done.”

Trump has further alienated Black voters with his comments surrounding the Black Lives Matter movement. He has said he would fight with activists if they tried to interrupt one of his campaign events, as BLM activists did at a Bernie Sanders event, and Trump has also said more power needs to go back to police.

Retired New Jersey police officer Brian Murphy, attending the South Carolina event, told ThinkProgress that Trump “stands for what the people feel” and would be the best person to lead the country, even though he won’t appeal to a number of minorities. “We’re trying to appease so many groups in life, it’s just not possible.” He also agreed with Trump that more power should be given to police.

Richard Spencer, a promoter of “white racial consciousness” and an individual whom the Southern Poverty Law Center calls “a suit-and-tie version of the white supremacists of old,” according to The New Yorker, said “I don’t think Trump is a white nationalist [but reflects] an unconscious vision that white people have — that their grandchildren might be a hated minority in their own country. I think that scares us. They probably aren’t able to articulate it. I think it’s there. I think that, to a great degree, explains the Trump phenomenon. I think he is the one person who can tap into it.”

While Trump’s supporters seemed to hang on his every word, applauding and cheering his remarks, the few Black attendees were far less enthusiastic.

“He’s very entertaining,” attendee Donna Newton told MSNBC after the event as she laughed with two friends. “The stuff that comes out of his mouth is unbelievable.”

A Black small business owner, Columbia, S.C., resident Frank Mitchell, told ThinkProgress at the event that Trump’s comments on business resonated with him. “I don’t see him being racist or anything,” he said, adding that would consider voting for either Trump or Joe Biden (much further to the left).

North Charleston was the scene of protests this year after white policeman Michael Slager shot and killed Walter Scott, a Black man, as he ran away following a traffic stop.

South Carolina Republicans vote in February, just weeks after Iowa and New Hampshire voters begin the nominating contest. Republican presidential candidates in recent general elections have won a very small fraction of the Black vote. George W. Bush won 11 percent of Black voters in 2004, and Mitt Romney received about 6 percent in 2012 against President Barack Obama.

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Sep 28, 2015 17:00:31   #
Comment Loc: California
 
KHH1 wrote:
Trump Tries, But Fails To Draw a Black Audience

Trump South Carolina Event
Attendees at event sponsored by South Carolina African-American Chamber of Commerce predominantly white.

Donald Trump says Black people love him. At an event in South Carolina last week he even pulled out a poll from his pocket showing “huge” support among Blacks, yet at that very event, co-sponsored by the state’s African-American Chamber of Commerce, there were very few African-Americans in attendance.

Most of the people in attendance, which totaled about 500, according to ThinkProgress, were white, Southern, loyal Trump supporters — a key part of his base. Yet that did not stop Trump from highlighting his appeal among African-Americans and citing polls showing he is winning the Black vote.

Doesn't hurt my feelings that Negs hang out in ghettos in big yankee cities. If there were any straw available they would build grass huts to live in. Part of their Africa DNA. Whites furnish them with brand new brick building and new appliances. In 5 years the accommodations are nothing but broken glass, graffiti, bricks and mortar. Poor black souls.
It is unclear whether Trump noticed the crowd was predominantly white or whether his remarks were prepared anticipating a predominantly Black audience being that he was speaking to business leaders at a meeting of the Greater Charleston Business Alliance, which supports minority businesses and is affiliated with the South Carolina African American Chamber of Commerce.

“The polls are through the roof,” Trump exclaimed. Pulling out a poll from SurveyUSA that shows him getting 25 percent of the Black vote in a match-up against Hillary Clinton, Trump said: “Here’s a poll, Trump receives 25 percent of the Black vote in general election … If you win 25 percent of the Black vote, it’s over, you win!”

He added: “Generally, Republicans do not do well with African-Americans. I have a lot of friends, African-Americans in New York, they say, ‘You’re going to get most of the vote.’ I was actually disappointed with the 25 percent.”

However, according to most national polls, Trump in fact is not doing so well with the Black community. In a Quinnipiac University poll released last month, Trump received only 3 percent of Black support in a match-up against Clinton. And a Washington Post-ABC News poll this month shows African Americans oppose Trump’s policies even more than Latinos, a group he has insulted since day one of his candidacy for president. On immigration alone, 81 percent of Blacks have an unfavorable opinion of Trump, compared with 75 percent of Latinos.

Ironically, among the 15 Republican presidential candidates, Trump did best among Black Republicans and independents in a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll.

Trump is still fresh off criticism that he did not correct a supporter who said Muslims are the problem in this country, and he has been the butt of more jokes based on the premise that he’s a racist. During the Emmy Awards last week host Andy Samberg plainly stated as such.

Whether Trump is a racist or simply panders to racists and bigots depends on who you ask, but among his supporters, many have repeatedly demonstrated intolerance for Blacks, Latinos, Muslims and gay people.

And even at events such as this one co-sponsored by a Black organization, Trump’s supporters are not afraid to show up and express their strong feelings on racial issues. In fact, their views mirror those of the “white nationalists” described in a feature on Trump in The New Yorker last month.

“Ever since the Tea Party’s peak, in 2010, and its fade, citizens on the American far right — Patriot militias, border vigilantes, white supremacists — have searched for a standard-bearer, and now [they’ve] found him,” The New Yorker said. “In the past, ‘white nationalists,’ as they call themselves, had described Trump as a ‘Jew-lover,’ but the new tone of his campaign was a revelation.”

Attendees at the South Carolina event acknowledged a racial divide but blamed the Black community.

“I think the black community should be first in addressing their problems,” South Carolina resident Margarita Lynn told ThinkProgress when asked if Trump could bridge the racial divide in the country. “I think the Black community is held hostage to a small minority of Black criminals, and until the Black community itself rises up to protect themselves against this small element of Black criminals that are overpowering their communities, very little can be done.”

Trump has further alienated Black voters with his comments surrounding the Black Lives Matter movement. He has said he would fight with activists if they tried to interrupt one of his campaign events, as BLM activists did at a Bernie Sanders event, and Trump has also said more power needs to go back to police.

Retired New Jersey police officer Brian Murphy, attending the South Carolina event, told ThinkProgress that Trump “stands for what the people feel” and would be the best person to lead the country, even though he won’t appeal to a number of minorities. “We’re trying to appease so many groups in life, it’s just not possible.” He also agreed with Trump that more power should be given to police.

Richard Spencer, a promoter of “white racial consciousness” and an individual whom the Southern Poverty Law Center calls “a suit-and-tie version of the white supremacists of old,” according to The New Yorker, said “I don’t think Trump is a white nationalist [but reflects] an unconscious vision that white people have — that their grandchildren might be a hated minority in their own country. I think that scares us. They probably aren’t able to articulate it. I think it’s there. I think that, to a great degree, explains the Trump phenomenon. I think he is the one person who can tap into it.”

While Trump’s supporters seemed to hang on his every word, applauding and cheering his remarks, the few Black attendees were far less enthusiastic.

“He’s very entertaining,” attendee Donna Newton told MSNBC after the event as she laughed with two friends. “The stuff that comes out of his mouth is unbelievable.”

A Black small business owner, Columbia, S.C., resident Frank Mitchell, told ThinkProgress at the event that Trump’s comments on business resonated with him. “I don’t see him being racist or anything,” he said, adding that would consider voting for either Trump or Joe Biden (much further to the left).

North Charleston was the scene of protests this year after white policeman Michael Slager shot and killed Walter Scott, a Black man, as he ran away following a traffic stop.

South Carolina Republicans vote in February, just weeks after Iowa and New Hampshire voters begin the nominating contest. Republican presidential candidates in recent general elections have won a very small fraction of the Black vote. George W. Bush won 11 percent of Black voters in 2004, and Mitt Romney received about 6 percent in 2012 against President Barack Obama.
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Sep 28, 2015 17:03:43   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
KHH1 wrote:
Trump Tries, But Fails To Draw a Black Audience

Trump South Carolina Event
Attendees at event sponsored by South Carolina African-American Chamber of Commerce predominantly white.

Donald Trump says Black people love him. At an event in South Carolina last week he even pulled out a poll from his pocket showing “huge” support among Blacks, yet at that very event, co-sponsored by the state’s African-American Chamber of Commerce, there were very few African-Americans in attendance.

Most of the people in attendance, which totaled about 500, according to ThinkProgress, were white, Southern, loyal Trump supporters — a key part of his base. Yet that did not stop Trump from highlighting his appeal among African-Americans and citing polls showing he is winning the Black vote.

It is unclear whether Trump noticed the crowd was predominantly white or whether his remarks were prepared anticipating a predominantly Black audience being that he was speaking to business leaders at a meeting of the Greater Charleston Business Alliance, which supports minority businesses and is affiliated with the South Carolina African American Chamber of Commerce.

“The polls are through the roof,” Trump exclaimed. Pulling out a poll from SurveyUSA that shows him getting 25 percent of the Black vote in a match-up against Hillary Clinton, Trump said: “Here’s a poll, Trump receives 25 percent of the Black vote in general election … If you win 25 percent of the Black vote, it’s over, you win!”

He added: “Generally, Republicans do not do well with African-Americans. I have a lot of friends, African-Americans in New York, they say, ‘You’re going to get most of the vote.’ I was actually disappointed with the 25 percent.”

However, according to most national polls, Trump in fact is not doing so well with the Black community. In a Quinnipiac University poll released last month, Trump received only 3 percent of Black support in a match-up against Clinton. And a Washington Post-ABC News poll this month shows African Americans oppose Trump’s policies even more than Latinos, a group he has insulted since day one of his candidacy for president. On immigration alone, 81 percent of Blacks have an unfavorable opinion of Trump, compared with 75 percent of Latinos.

Ironically, among the 15 Republican presidential candidates, Trump did best among Black Republicans and independents in a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll.

Trump is still fresh off criticism that he did not correct a supporter who said Muslims are the problem in this country, and he has been the butt of more jokes based on the premise that he’s a racist. During the Emmy Awards last week host Andy Samberg plainly stated as such.

Whether Trump is a racist or simply panders to racists and bigots depends on who you ask, but among his supporters, many have repeatedly demonstrated intolerance for Blacks, Latinos, Muslims and gay people.

And even at events such as this one co-sponsored by a Black organization, Trump’s supporters are not afraid to show up and express their strong feelings on racial issues. In fact, their views mirror those of the “white nationalists” described in a feature on Trump in The New Yorker last month.

“Ever since the Tea Party’s peak, in 2010, and its fade, citizens on the American far right — Patriot militias, border vigilantes, white supremacists — have searched for a standard-bearer, and now [they’ve] found him,” The New Yorker said. “In the past, ‘white nationalists,’ as they call themselves, had described Trump as a ‘Jew-lover,’ but the new tone of his campaign was a revelation.”

Attendees at the South Carolina event acknowledged a racial divide but blamed the Black community.

“I think the black community should be first in addressing their problems,” South Carolina resident Margarita Lynn told ThinkProgress when asked if Trump could bridge the racial divide in the country. “I think the Black community is held hostage to a small minority of Black criminals, and until the Black community itself rises up to protect themselves against this small element of Black criminals that are overpowering their communities, very little can be done.”

Trump has further alienated Black voters with his comments surrounding the Black Lives Matter movement. He has said he would fight with activists if they tried to interrupt one of his campaign events, as BLM activists did at a Bernie Sanders event, and Trump has also said more power needs to go back to police.

Retired New Jersey police officer Brian Murphy, attending the South Carolina event, told ThinkProgress that Trump “stands for what the people feel” and would be the best person to lead the country, even though he won’t appeal to a number of minorities. “We’re trying to appease so many groups in life, it’s just not possible.” He also agreed with Trump that more power should be given to police.

Richard Spencer, a promoter of “white racial consciousness” and an individual whom the Southern Poverty Law Center calls “a suit-and-tie version of the white supremacists of old,” according to The New Yorker, said “I don’t think Trump is a white nationalist [but reflects] an unconscious vision that white people have — that their grandchildren might be a hated minority in their own country. I think that scares us. They probably aren’t able to articulate it. I think it’s there. I think that, to a great degree, explains the Trump phenomenon. I think he is the one person who can tap into it.”

While Trump’s supporters seemed to hang on his every word, applauding and cheering his remarks, the few Black attendees were far less enthusiastic.

“He’s very entertaining,” attendee Donna Newton told MSNBC after the event as she laughed with two friends. “The stuff that comes out of his mouth is unbelievable.”

A Black small business owner, Columbia, S.C., resident Frank Mitchell, told ThinkProgress at the event that Trump’s comments on business resonated with him. “I don’t see him being racist or anything,” he said, adding that would consider voting for either Trump or Joe Biden (much further to the left).

North Charleston was the scene of protests this year after white policeman Michael Slager shot and killed Walter Scott, a Black man, as he ran away following a traffic stop.

South Carolina Republicans vote in February, just weeks after Iowa and New Hampshire voters begin the nominating contest. Republican presidential candidates in recent general elections have won a very small fraction of the Black vote. George W. Bush won 11 percent of Black voters in 2004, and Mitt Romney received about 6 percent in 2012 against President Barack Obama.
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Do you think Trump is a true conservative?

Do you think observations from him is any less biased than observations from Thinks Progress?

Do you think blacks generally favor loose immigration policies?
If so, why?

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Sep 28, 2015 17:19:44   #
stymie
 
Taking the Topic as a question I offer the following.

Does that mean they are not Trainable? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the explanation of stupidity. The blacks slide started with L.B.J's "Great Society" and continues under todays so-called "Democratic Party". I think blacks are smarter than that but succumb to peer pressure. Kind of like KHH1.

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Sep 28, 2015 17:35:11   #
stymie
 
KHH1 wrote:
"peer" pressure.....what poor whites do when they vote for the corporate GOP because it is the party that does not include black people and it authenticates their whiteness by doing so...and live in their red states that are at the bottom of everything...except government assistance.......


Do you really want to help your people or simply continue the status quo? If you really want to help them then attempt to have a meaningful dialogue rather than your constant racial slurs and demographic puns.

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Sep 28, 2015 17:44:15   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
KHH1 wrote:
"peer" pressure.....what poor whites do when they vote for the corporate GOP because it is the party that does not include black people


Lol. And how many black candidates are being offered by the DNC in 2016?

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and it authenticates their whiteness by doing so...and live in their red states that are at the bottom of everything...except government assistance.......


This is a numbers game professor. AA's make up about 13% of the population. Here's some homework doctor; what's the percentage of that 13% on assistance. 😳😳😳😳

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Sep 28, 2015 17:52:56   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
KHH1 wrote:
Trump Tries, But Fails To Draw a Black Audience

Trump South Carolina Event
Attendees at event sponsored by South Carolina African-American Chamber of Commerce predominantly white.

Donald Trump says Black people love him. At an event in South Carolina last week he even pulled out a poll from his pocket showing “huge” support among Blacks, yet at that very event, co-sponsored by the state’s African-American Chamber of Commerce, there were very few African-Americans in attendance.

Most of the people in attendance, which totaled about 500, according to ThinkProgress, were white, Southern, loyal Trump supporters — a key part of his base. Yet that did not stop Trump from highlighting his appeal among African-Americans and citing polls showing he is winning the Black vote.

It is unclear whether Trump noticed the crowd was predominantly white or whether his remarks were prepared anticipating a predominantly Black audience being that he was speaking to business leaders at a meeting of the Greater Charleston Business Alliance, which supports minority businesses and is affiliated with the South Carolina African American Chamber of Commerce.

“The polls are through the roof,” Trump exclaimed. Pulling out a poll from SurveyUSA that shows him getting 25 percent of the Black vote in a match-up against Hillary Clinton, Trump said: “Here’s a poll, Trump receives 25 percent of the Black vote in general election … If you win 25 percent of the Black vote, it’s over, you win!”

He added: “Generally, Republicans do not do well with African-Americans. I have a lot of friends, African-Americans in New York, they say, ‘You’re going to get most of the vote.’ I was actually disappointed with the 25 percent.”

However, according to most national polls, Trump in fact is not doing so well with the Black community. In a Quinnipiac University poll released last month, Trump received only 3 percent of Black support in a match-up against Clinton. And a Washington Post-ABC News poll this month shows African Americans oppose Trump’s policies even more than Latinos, a group he has insulted since day one of his candidacy for president. On immigration alone, 81 percent of Blacks have an unfavorable opinion of Trump, compared with 75 percent of Latinos.

Ironically, among the 15 Republican presidential candidates, Trump did best among Black Republicans and independents in a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll.

Trump is still fresh off criticism that he did not correct a supporter who said Muslims are the problem in this country, and he has been the butt of more jokes based on the premise that he’s a racist. During the Emmy Awards last week host Andy Samberg plainly stated as such.

Whether Trump is a racist or simply panders to racists and bigots depends on who you ask, but among his supporters, many have repeatedly demonstrated intolerance for Blacks, Latinos, Muslims and gay people.

And even at events such as this one co-sponsored by a Black organization, Trump’s supporters are not afraid to show up and express their strong feelings on racial issues. In fact, their views mirror those of the “white nationalists” described in a feature on Trump in The New Yorker last month.

“Ever since the Tea Party’s peak, in 2010, and its fade, citizens on the American far right — Patriot militias, border vigilantes, white supremacists — have searched for a standard-bearer, and now [they’ve] found him,” The New Yorker said. “In the past, ‘white nationalists,’ as they call themselves, had described Trump as a ‘Jew-lover,’ but the new tone of his campaign was a revelation.”

Attendees at the South Carolina event acknowledged a racial divide but blamed the Black community.

“I think the black community should be first in addressing their problems,” South Carolina resident Margarita Lynn told ThinkProgress when asked if Trump could bridge the racial divide in the country. “I think the Black community is held hostage to a small minority of Black criminals, and until the Black community itself rises up to protect themselves against this small element of Black criminals that are overpowering their communities, very little can be done.”

Trump has further alienated Black voters with his comments surrounding the Black Lives Matter movement. He has said he would fight with activists if they tried to interrupt one of his campaign events, as BLM activists did at a Bernie Sanders event, and Trump has also said more power needs to go back to police.

Retired New Jersey police officer Brian Murphy, attending the South Carolina event, told ThinkProgress that Trump “stands for what the people feel” and would be the best person to lead the country, even though he won’t appeal to a number of minorities. “We’re trying to appease so many groups in life, it’s just not possible.” He also agreed with Trump that more power should be given to police.

Richard Spencer, a promoter of “white racial consciousness” and an individual whom the Southern Poverty Law Center calls “a suit-and-tie version of the white supremacists of old,” according to The New Yorker, said “I don’t think Trump is a white nationalist [but reflects] an unconscious vision that white people have — that their grandchildren might be a hated minority in their own country. I think that scares us. They probably aren’t able to articulate it. I think it’s there. I think that, to a great degree, explains the Trump phenomenon. I think he is the one person who can tap into it.”

While Trump’s supporters seemed to hang on his every word, applauding and cheering his remarks, the few Black attendees were far less enthusiastic.

“He’s very entertaining,” attendee Donna Newton told MSNBC after the event as she laughed with two friends. “The stuff that comes out of his mouth is unbelievable.”

A Black small business owner, Columbia, S.C., resident Frank Mitchell, told ThinkProgress at the event that Trump’s comments on business resonated with him. “I don’t see him being racist or anything,” he said, adding that would consider voting for either Trump or Joe Biden (much further to the left).

North Charleston was the scene of protests this year after white policeman Michael Slager shot and killed Walter Scott, a Black man, as he ran away following a traffic stop.

South Carolina Republicans vote in February, just weeks after Iowa and New Hampshire voters begin the nominating contest. Republican presidential candidates in recent general elections have won a very small fraction of the Black vote. George W. Bush won 11 percent of Black voters in 2004, and Mitt Romney received about 6 percent in 2012 against President Barack Obama.
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KHH1-it is a shame that blacks stick with the party that has taken advantage of them for years going as far back as the KKK. Instead of job opportunities, democrats have provided blacks programs to keep them on a leash. With black unemployment rate at 21% plus, one would think they would opt for something better. I believe Trump would do more for the black communities than any democrat. As an educated man, you should realize that . What would Joe Biden do for blacks ? Nothing !!! He would be a continuation Obama as it is their policies that have our economy stagnant. I am not a supporter of the far right and prefer a moderate which I believe Trump is. Who can do better at creating jobs than Trump? Elect another politician and we will have continued gridlock. Trump will coerce people to work with him or use the bully pulpit to let the voters know where the gridlock is coming from and the people will speak. Trump is the best chance we have to get our country back on track and the election should be about America and not partisanship. I don't care if he calls himself an indeprepublimocrat as long as he gets the job done. Good Luck America !!!

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Sep 28, 2015 18:14:00   #
Scoop Henderson Loc: The Rez, (I am from Egypt)
 
Wrong, he is the savior to this much blacker than Monkee Obama girl.

KHH1 wrote:
Trump Tries, But Fails To Draw a Black Audience

Trump South Carolina Event
Attendees at event sponsored by South Carolina African-American Chamber of Commerce predominantly white.

Donald Trump says Black people love him. At an event in South Carolina last week he even pulled out a poll from his pocket showing “huge” support among Blacks, yet at that very event, co-sponsored by the state’s African-American Chamber of Commerce, there were very few African-Americans in attendance.

Most of the people in attendance, which totaled about 500, according to ThinkProgress, were white, Southern, loyal Trump supporters — a key part of his base. Yet that did not stop Trump from highlighting his appeal among African-Americans and citing polls showing he is winning the Black vote.

It is unclear whether Trump noticed the crowd was predominantly white or whether his remarks were prepared anticipating a predominantly Black audience being that he was speaking to business leaders at a meeting of the Greater Charleston Business Alliance, which supports minority businesses and is affiliated with the South Carolina African American Chamber of Commerce.

“The polls are through the roof,” Trump exclaimed. Pulling out a poll from SurveyUSA that shows him getting 25 percent of the Black vote in a match-up against Hillary Clinton, Trump said: “Here’s a poll, Trump receives 25 percent of the Black vote in general election … If you win 25 percent of the Black vote, it’s over, you win!”

He added: “Generally, Republicans do not do well with African-Americans. I have a lot of friends, African-Americans in New York, they say, ‘You’re going to get most of the vote.’ I was actually disappointed with the 25 percent.”

However, according to most national polls, Trump in fact is not doing so well with the Black community. In a Quinnipiac University poll released last month, Trump received only 3 percent of Black support in a match-up against Clinton. And a Washington Post-ABC News poll this month shows African Americans oppose Trump’s policies even more than Latinos, a group he has insulted since day one of his candidacy for president. On immigration alone, 81 percent of Blacks have an unfavorable opinion of Trump, compared with 75 percent of Latinos.

Ironically, among the 15 Republican presidential candidates, Trump did best among Black Republicans and independents in a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll.

Trump is still fresh off criticism that he did not correct a supporter who said Muslims are the problem in this country, and he has been the butt of more jokes based on the premise that he’s a racist. During the Emmy Awards last week host Andy Samberg plainly stated as such.

Whether Trump is a racist or simply panders to racists and bigots depends on who you ask, but among his supporters, many have repeatedly demonstrated intolerance for Blacks, Latinos, Muslims and gay people.

And even at events such as this one co-sponsored by a Black organization, Trump’s supporters are not afraid to show up and express their strong feelings on racial issues. In fact, their views mirror those of the “white nationalists” described in a feature on Trump in The New Yorker last month.

“Ever since the Tea Party’s peak, in 2010, and its fade, citizens on the American far right — Patriot militias, border vigilantes, white supremacists — have searched for a standard-bearer, and now [they’ve] found him,” The New Yorker said. “In the past, ‘white nationalists,’ as they call themselves, had described Trump as a ‘Jew-lover,’ but the new tone of his campaign was a revelation.”

Attendees at the South Carolina event acknowledged a racial divide but blamed the Black community.

“I think the black community should be first in addressing their problems,” South Carolina resident Margarita Lynn told ThinkProgress when asked if Trump could bridge the racial divide in the country. “I think the Black community is held hostage to a small minority of Black criminals, and until the Black community itself rises up to protect themselves against this small element of Black criminals that are overpowering their communities, very little can be done.”

Trump has further alienated Black voters with his comments surrounding the Black Lives Matter movement. He has said he would fight with activists if they tried to interrupt one of his campaign events, as BLM activists did at a Bernie Sanders event, and Trump has also said more power needs to go back to police.

Retired New Jersey police officer Brian Murphy, attending the South Carolina event, told ThinkProgress that Trump “stands for what the people feel” and would be the best person to lead the country, even though he won’t appeal to a number of minorities. “We’re trying to appease so many groups in life, it’s just not possible.” He also agreed with Trump that more power should be given to police.

Richard Spencer, a promoter of “white racial consciousness” and an individual whom the Southern Poverty Law Center calls “a suit-and-tie version of the white supremacists of old,” according to The New Yorker, said “I don’t think Trump is a white nationalist [but reflects] an unconscious vision that white people have — that their grandchildren might be a hated minority in their own country. I think that scares us. They probably aren’t able to articulate it. I think it’s there. I think that, to a great degree, explains the Trump phenomenon. I think he is the one person who can tap into it.”

While Trump’s supporters seemed to hang on his every word, applauding and cheering his remarks, the few Black attendees were far less enthusiastic.

“He’s very entertaining,” attendee Donna Newton told MSNBC after the event as she laughed with two friends. “The stuff that comes out of his mouth is unbelievable.”

A Black small business owner, Columbia, S.C., resident Frank Mitchell, told ThinkProgress at the event that Trump’s comments on business resonated with him. “I don’t see him being racist or anything,” he said, adding that would consider voting for either Trump or Joe Biden (much further to the left).

North Charleston was the scene of protests this year after white policeman Michael Slager shot and killed Walter Scott, a Black man, as he ran away following a traffic stop.

South Carolina Republicans vote in February, just weeks after Iowa and New Hampshire voters begin the nominating contest. Republican presidential candidates in recent general elections have won a very small fraction of the Black vote. George W. Bush won 11 percent of Black voters in 2004, and Mitt Romney received about 6 percent in 2012 against President Barack Obama.
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Sep 28, 2015 18:24:33   #
jelun
 
Maybe Mr. Trump thought that they were all out working that 12 hour day they need to put in to get by.


KHH1 wrote:
Trump Tries, But Fails To Draw a Black Audience

Trump South Carolina Event
Attendees at event sponsored by South Carolina African-American Chamber of Commerce predominantly white.

Donald Trump says Black people love him. At an event in South Carolina last week he even pulled out a poll from his pocket showing “huge” support among Blacks, yet at that very event, co-sponsored by the state’s African-American Chamber of Commerce, there were very few African-Americans in attendance.

Most of the people in attendance, which totaled about 500, according to ThinkProgress, were white, Southern, loyal Trump supporters — a key part of his base. Yet that did not stop Trump from highlighting his appeal among African-Americans and citing polls showing he is winning the Black vote.

It is unclear whether Trump noticed the crowd was predominantly white or whether his remarks were prepared anticipating a predominantly Black audience being that he was speaking to business leaders at a meeting of the Greater Charleston Business Alliance, which supports minority businesses and is affiliated with the South Carolina African American Chamber of Commerce.

“The polls are through the roof,” Trump exclaimed. Pulling out a poll from SurveyUSA that shows him getting 25 percent of the Black vote in a match-up against Hillary Clinton, Trump said: “Here’s a poll, Trump receives 25 percent of the Black vote in general election … If you win 25 percent of the Black vote, it’s over, you win!”

He added: “Generally, Republicans do not do well with African-Americans. I have a lot of friends, African-Americans in New York, they say, ‘You’re going to get most of the vote.’ I was actually disappointed with the 25 percent.”

However, according to most national polls, Trump in fact is not doing so well with the Black community. In a Quinnipiac University poll released last month, Trump received only 3 percent of Black support in a match-up against Clinton. And a Washington Post-ABC News poll this month shows African Americans oppose Trump’s policies even more than Latinos, a group he has insulted since day one of his candidacy for president. On immigration alone, 81 percent of Blacks have an unfavorable opinion of Trump, compared with 75 percent of Latinos.

Ironically, among the 15 Republican presidential candidates, Trump did best among Black Republicans and independents in a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll.

Trump is still fresh off criticism that he did not correct a supporter who said Muslims are the problem in this country, and he has been the butt of more jokes based on the premise that he’s a racist. During the Emmy Awards last week host Andy Samberg plainly stated as such.

Whether Trump is a racist or simply panders to racists and bigots depends on who you ask, but among his supporters, many have repeatedly demonstrated intolerance for Blacks, Latinos, Muslims and gay people.

And even at events such as this one co-sponsored by a Black organization, Trump’s supporters are not afraid to show up and express their strong feelings on racial issues. In fact, their views mirror those of the “white nationalists” described in a feature on Trump in The New Yorker last month.

“Ever since the Tea Party’s peak, in 2010, and its fade, citizens on the American far right — Patriot militias, border vigilantes, white supremacists — have searched for a standard-bearer, and now [they’ve] found him,” The New Yorker said. “In the past, ‘white nationalists,’ as they call themselves, had described Trump as a ‘Jew-lover,’ but the new tone of his campaign was a revelation.”

Attendees at the South Carolina event acknowledged a racial divide but blamed the Black community.

“I think the black community should be first in addressing their problems,” South Carolina resident Margarita Lynn told ThinkProgress when asked if Trump could bridge the racial divide in the country. “I think the Black community is held hostage to a small minority of Black criminals, and until the Black community itself rises up to protect themselves against this small element of Black criminals that are overpowering their communities, very little can be done.”

Trump has further alienated Black voters with his comments surrounding the Black Lives Matter movement. He has said he would fight with activists if they tried to interrupt one of his campaign events, as BLM activists did at a Bernie Sanders event, and Trump has also said more power needs to go back to police.

Retired New Jersey police officer Brian Murphy, attending the South Carolina event, told ThinkProgress that Trump “stands for what the people feel” and would be the best person to lead the country, even though he won’t appeal to a number of minorities. “We’re trying to appease so many groups in life, it’s just not possible.” He also agreed with Trump that more power should be given to police.

Richard Spencer, a promoter of “white racial consciousness” and an individual whom the Southern Poverty Law Center calls “a suit-and-tie version of the white supremacists of old,” according to The New Yorker, said “I don’t think Trump is a white nationalist [but reflects] an unconscious vision that white people have — that their grandchildren might be a hated minority in their own country. I think that scares us. They probably aren’t able to articulate it. I think it’s there. I think that, to a great degree, explains the Trump phenomenon. I think he is the one person who can tap into it.”

While Trump’s supporters seemed to hang on his every word, applauding and cheering his remarks, the few Black attendees were far less enthusiastic.

“He’s very entertaining,” attendee Donna Newton told MSNBC after the event as she laughed with two friends. “The stuff that comes out of his mouth is unbelievable.”

A Black small business owner, Columbia, S.C., resident Frank Mitchell, told ThinkProgress at the event that Trump’s comments on business resonated with him. “I don’t see him being racist or anything,” he said, adding that would consider voting for either Trump or Joe Biden (much further to the left).

North Charleston was the scene of protests this year after white policeman Michael Slager shot and killed Walter Scott, a Black man, as he ran away following a traffic stop.

South Carolina Republicans vote in February, just weeks after Iowa and New Hampshire voters begin the nominating contest. Republican presidential candidates in recent general elections have won a very small fraction of the Black vote. George W. Bush won 11 percent of Black voters in 2004, and Mitt Romney received about 6 percent in 2012 against President Barack Obama.
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Sep 28, 2015 18:29:10   #
jelun
 
stymie wrote:
Do you really want to help your people or simply continue the status quo? If you really want to help them then attempt to have a meaningful dialogue rather than your constant racial slurs and demographic puns.



Because you and the rest of the bigots here are going to do something useful?

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Sep 28, 2015 18:39:40   #
stymie
 
jelun wrote:
Because you and the rest of the bigots here are going to do something useful?


Your passion and understanding are underwhelming. Perhaps you did not understand the word meaningful. Want to try again?

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Sep 28, 2015 18:46:58   #
jelun
 
stymie wrote:
Your passion and understanding are underwhelming. Perhaps you did not understand the word meaningful. Want to try again?


You didn't ask for meaningful ...you asked for meaning.
It seems to me that everything about THIS sock puppet is underwhelming.

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Sep 28, 2015 19:00:31   #
Brooklyn Dave Loc: KIBBUTZ NYC
 
You know that white ethnics in the north did the same things as blacks are doing now. They--in reference to Irish Americans-- were called Donkey-crats, even though the Democrats had stopped serving their interests for a good number of years. And the white ethnics weren't collecting the bennies that much of the black community collects at present. But the response is similar

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Sep 28, 2015 19:05:35   #
jelun
 
Brooklyn Dave wrote:
You know that white ethnics in the north did the same things as blacks are doing now. They--in reference to Irish Americans-- were called Donkey-crats, even though the Democrats had stopped serving their interests for a good number of years. And the white ethnics weren't collecting the bennies that much of the black community collects at present. But the response is similar


It is much easier to put your message in context, Dave, if you use "Quote Reply".

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Sep 28, 2015 19:38:42   #
jelun
 
KHH1 wrote:
They are a funny lot...and they wonder why they and trump can get lost? Look at their values...they hate black people and just need tokens that are politically useful...for votes and black faces superimposed on white racist thought........


Who would have thought that they would find one?
A smart one, no less.

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