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Sep 4, 2015 00:27:53   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Thank You Patrick, I'm not sure he and many others understand the Term Legal vs illegal.


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Or want to understand!

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Sep 4, 2015 09:14:37   #
Sicilianthing
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
kevyn: Rule of Law Stupid! Stupid Stupid Stupid another typical post!


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And yet again, Kevyn like many here don't understand the Legal from the Illegal ..

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Sep 4, 2015 09:15:44   #
Sicilianthing
 
Jerry A. wrote:
Chuck slusser: How old are you, you don't know what you are talking about in the Political Forum.


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Wrong Answer and
Wrong Again...

Chuck is correct and you are wrong JerryLandia

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Sep 5, 2015 08:14:14   #
Kachina
 
Jerry A. wrote:
Chuck slusser: How old are you, you don't know what you are talking about in the Political Forum.



You are the one who don't know what you are talking about. The constitution mention citizens and naturalized citizens throughout. It does not say anywhere : citizens, naturalized citizens and illegal aliens.

Here are a few examples from constitution which I think clearly shows it is written for us citizens and those naturalized:

Section 2, article iv
A person charged in any state of treason, felony or crime in one state but found in another state is to be removed to the state having jurisdiction of the crime.

Every illegal alien commits a crime once they cross the border.

Amendment xi
The judicial power of the us shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity commenced or prosecuted against anyone of the us by citizens or subjects of any foreign state.

This tells me these illegal citizens have no right to bring suit in our judicial system over our laws the suit should have been thrown out.

Amendment xiv, section 1

All persons born or naturalized in us are subject to the jurisdiction there of, are citizens of the us and the state wherein they reside. No state shall enforce any law which will abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of us.

Well I think giving illegals guns and other rights go against my privilege and immunity to feel safe from illegal criminals with guns!

Lastly.
Amendment xv, section 1

The right of citizens of us to vote shall not be denied or abridged by us or by any state.....


Where in these examples does it say illegals have any rights whatsoever. Next time you go on about giving illegals rights our own citizens fought for, why don't you try reading the constitution.

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Sep 5, 2015 09:38:35   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Kachina wrote:
You are the one who don't know what you are talking about. The constitution mention citizens and naturalized citizens throughout. It does not say anywhere : citizens, naturalized citizens and illegal aliens.

Here are a few examples from constitution which I think clearly shows it is written for us citizens and those naturalized:

Section 2, article iv
A person charged in any state of treason, felony or crime in one state but found in another state is to be removed to the state having jurisdiction of the crime.

Why should anyone read the constitution when the current government has NO INTENTION of ever following it?

Every illegal alien commits a crime once they cross the border.

Amendment xi
The judicial power of the us shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity commenced or prosecuted against anyone of the us by citizens or subjects of any foreign state.

This tells me these illegal citizens have no right to bring suit in our judicial system over our laws the suit should have been thrown out.

Amendment xiv, section 1

All persons born or naturalized in us are subject to the jurisdiction there of, are citizens of the us and the state wherein they reside. No state shall enforce any law which will abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of us.

Well I think giving illegals guns and other rights go against my privilege and immunity to feel safe from illegal criminals with guns!

Lastly.
Amendment xv, section 1

The right of citizens of us to vote shall not be denied or abridged by us or by any state.....


Where in these examples does it say illegals have any rights whatsoever. Next time you go on about giving illegals rights our own citizens fought for, why don't you try reading the constitution.
You are the one who don't know what you are talkin... (show quote)

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Sep 5, 2015 10:13:16   #
Patrick Henry Loc: Iowa
 
The socialists/communists aren't stupid. When our schools were integrated back in the late 1960's they "dumbed down" the curriculum figuring minorities would then be okay. WRONG! They began removing from curriculums our history (which is vitally important). Stopped teaching our Founders, our Constitution and all other history. Look at what's going on now with Southern history; taking down all references to slavery. Well, I think we are all against slavery because it is terrible for any human to think he owns another human being. The evolution of our societal standards has improved dramatically over the past 150 years. In many parts of the world slavery is still accepted - terrible! To try to change our history, IMO, is dead wrong because it shows how we, as a nation have improved.
When a nation does not learn and respect it's evolutionary history it creates a void that will eventually unravel society. Look at what is going on now and it's all coming out of Washington, D.C. Total disregard for our laws and traditions. Isn't political correctness wonderful? It is destroying us. We are all Americans. If you like a hyphenated race behind your name perhaps you should consider going back to the hyphenated country.

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Sep 5, 2015 11:01:28   #
Sicilianthing
 
Patrick Henry wrote:
The socialists/communists aren't stupid. When our schools were integrated back in the late 1960's they "dumbed down" the curriculum figuring minorities would then be okay. WRONG! They began removing from curriculums our history (which is vitally important). Stopped teaching our Founders, our Constitution and all other history. Look at what's going on now with Southern history; taking down all references to slavery. Well, I think we are all against slavery because it is terrible for any human to think he owns another human being. The evolution of our societal standards has improved dramatically over the past 150 years. In many parts of the world slavery is still accepted - terrible! To try to change our history, IMO, is dead wrong because it shows how we, as a nation have improved.
When a nation does not learn and respect it's evolutionary history it creates a void that will eventually unravel society. Look at what is going on now and it's all coming out of Washington, D.C. Total disregard for our laws and traditions. Isn't political correctness wonderful? It is destroying us. We are all Americans. If you like a hyphenated race behind your name perhaps you should consider going back to the hyphenated country.
The socialists/communists aren't stupid. When our ... (show quote)


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BINGO, You Nailed it !

No civilization can persist without it's Founding Principles teachings.

Manipulations ever so slightly of this fabric by Rogue Assholes like these Judges has immeasurable consequences as we are witnessing.

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Sep 5, 2015 11:23:59   #
Jerry A. Loc: California
 
Kachina wrote:
You are the one who don't know what you are talking about. The constitution mention citizens and naturalized citizens throughout. It does not say anywhere : citizens, naturalized citizens and illegal aliens.

Here are a few examples from constitution which I think clearly shows it is written for us citizens and those naturalized:

Section 2, article iv
A person charged in any state of treason, felony or crime in one state but found in another state is to be removed to the state having jurisdiction of the crime.

Every illegal alien commits a crime once they cross the border.

Amendment xi
The judicial power of the us shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity commenced or prosecuted against anyone of the us by citizens or subjects of any foreign state.

This tells me these illegal citizens have no right to bring suit in our judicial system over our laws the suit should have been thrown out.

Amendment xiv, section 1

All persons born or naturalized in us are subject to the jurisdiction there of, are citizens of the us and the state wherein they reside. No state shall enforce any law which will abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of us.

Well I think giving illegals guns and other rights go against my privilege and immunity to feel safe from illegal criminals with guns!

Lastly.
Amendment xv, section 1

The right of citizens of us to vote shall not be denied or abridged by us or by any state.....


Where in these examples does it say illegals have any rights whatsoever. Next time you go on about giving illegals rights our own citizens fought for, why don't you try reading the constitution.
You are the one who don't know what you are talkin... (show quote)


Kachina: The U.S. Constitution of 1786, was written after the founder fathers came here illegally in the "Mayflower" and occupied the land. Please stop your bull....sh.... posts in the FORUM.

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Sep 5, 2015 11:23:59   #
Jerry A. Loc: California
 
Kachina wrote:
You are the one who don't know what you are talking about. The constitution mention citizens and naturalized citizens throughout. It does not say anywhere : citizens, naturalized citizens and illegal aliens.

Here are a few examples from constitution which I think clearly shows it is written for us citizens and those naturalized:

Section 2, article iv
A person charged in any state of treason, felony or crime in one state but found in another state is to be removed to the state having jurisdiction of the crime.

Every illegal alien commits a crime once they cross the border.

Amendment xi
The judicial power of the us shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity commenced or prosecuted against anyone of the us by citizens or subjects of any foreign state.

This tells me these illegal citizens have no right to bring suit in our judicial system over our laws the suit should have been thrown out.

Amendment xiv, section 1

All persons born or naturalized in us are subject to the jurisdiction there of, are citizens of the us and the state wherein they reside. No state shall enforce any law which will abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of us.

Well I think giving illegals guns and other rights go against my privilege and immunity to feel safe from illegal criminals with guns!

Lastly.
Amendment xv, section 1

The right of citizens of us to vote shall not be denied or abridged by us or by any state.....


Where in these examples does it say illegals have any rights whatsoever. Next time you go on about giving illegals rights our own citizens fought for, why don't you try reading the constitution.
You are the one who don't know what you are talkin... (show quote)


Kachina: The U.S. Constitution of 1786, was written after the founder fathers came here illegally in the "Mayflower" and occupied the land. Please stop your bull....sh.... posts in the FORUM.

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Sep 5, 2015 12:13:27   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
I don't know about other states, but I got an on the spot federal check and bought a handgun, here in South Carolina. I would support some additional measure to make it much harder for a crazy person or felon to get firearms. These terrible murders that occur all to often have to be stopped!
Sicilianthing wrote:
The Founders warned you of Judges who over step like this...

Maybe the illegal invaders should use their guns on these TRAITORS ?

Too Ironic



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Hundreds of years ago our ancestors fought and died so we could enjoy the freedoms we have today.

People often forget that these freedoms are extended to American citizens and are reserved exclusively for those who swear allegiance to this great nation.

But it’s true.

The only problem is the porous border down south does little to deter illegals from coming over here and enjoying the fruit of our labor.

For instance, they can come over, totally undocumented, not pay taxes AND enjoy the second amendment.

You read that correctly, illegal aliens can own guns legally even though they aren’t allowed to be here in the first place.

And that’s the kicker, they’re here illegally and get to own a gun without reservation.

In the case of a Milwaukee man deported over a single .22 caliber cartridge, a federal appeals court ruled last week that even unlawful immigrants can be part of “the public” that enjoys a Second Amendment right to keep a gun for self defense.

The U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeas said even undocumented immigrants can be part of “the people” protected by the Bill of Rights, though it upheld the man’s conviction on a specific law that prohibits most such persons from having guns.

“It is now clear that the Second Amendment right to bear arms is no second-class entitlement, (and) we see no principled way to carve out the Second Amendment and say that the unauthorized (or maybe all noncitizens) are excluded,” Judge Diane Wood wrote for a panel that included judges Richard Easterbrook and Joel Flaum.

“No language in the Amendment supports such a conclusion, nor, as we have said, does a broader consideration of the Bill of Rights.”

Because four other federal circuit courts have come to the opposite conclusion, legal commentators were quick to suggest the issue of whether undocumented immigrants have Second Amendment rights could now be headed for the U.S. Supreme Court.

While rejecting the idea that undocumented immigrants could never have any rights under the Second Amendment, Wood noted that even for citizens, those rights are not unlimited. She found that a federal law tailored to keep guns out of the hands of undocumented immigrants — like gun restrictions imposed on felons and those convicted of domestic violence — was constitutional, and upheld the conviction on those grounds.

The biggest problem here is simply by coming here these people prove they have no respect for the law of the land. That makes them criminals… and they get to own a gun.

How in the world could anything ever go wrong with this?

Meanwhile law-abiding Americans are forced to jump through all kinds of hoops to get a gun to protect themselves from these very criminals.

It isn’t to say illegal immigrants shouldn’t be allowed to protect themselves, after all the bill of rights have been enumerated to protect the people from the government, but in a time where it’s so hard to natural born, and legally adopted citizens have a hard time getting guns why should criminals who are here illegally be allowed to own a gun?

Doesn’t make much sense, does it
The Founders warned you of Judges who over step li... (show quote)

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Sep 5, 2015 12:23:55   #
markinny
 
Patrick Henry wrote:
Our Constitution ONLY applies to American citizens -- NOT ILLEGAL ALIENS. Any judge who includes illegal aliens in the protections our Constitution should be immediately disrobed and lose his/her license to practice law. Our Founders warned us of a legal system out of control that would destroy us. It has just about accomplished the deed.


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Sep 5, 2015 13:20:06   #
Sicilianthing
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
I don't know about other states, but I got an on the spot federal check and bought a handgun, here in South Carolina. I would support some additional measure to make it much harder for a crazy person or felon to get firearms. These terrible murders that occur all to often have to be stopped!


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Remember, People kill people... not weapons.

Soon if Guns are gone, they will kill with knives... or spoons.

See what I mean ?

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Sep 5, 2015 16:06:08   #
Patrick Henry Loc: Iowa
 
The judges on OUR Supreme Court should be ashamed of themselves for NOT following our Constitution in EVERY decision they render. Basically, right now, our federal government is totally out of control. And obama and holder have damaged America severely. Congress won't impeach obama nor will the Supreme Court exercise their Constitutional authority to stop him. So what recourse do we citizens have? A citizens arrest of obama is one possible solution.

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Sep 5, 2015 16:42:29   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Sicilian thing, That little line was thought up by the NRA. The gun was invented for killing. If people didn't have guns a lot less people would be dead. I don't remember reading about a crazy person killing a lot of innocent people in a movie or shopping mall with a knife.
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Remember, People kill people... not weapons.

Soon if Guns are gone, they will kill with knives... or spoons.

See what I mean ?

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Sep 5, 2015 18:48:33   #
Sicilianthing
 
Patrick Henry wrote:
The judges on OUR Supreme Court should be ashamed of themselves for NOT following our Constitution in EVERY decision they render. Basically, right now, our federal government is totally out of control. And obama and holder have damaged America severely. Congress won't impeach obama nor will the Supreme Court exercise their Constitutional authority to stop him. So what recourse do we citizens have? A citizens arrest of obama is one possible solution.


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