How Long Before They Outlaw The Bible All Together?
Aug 16, 2015 20:36:53 #
Marcus Johnson wrote:
Which is why I can never trust a Christian. Even when they do good deeds ,you have to wonder, did they do the good deed because it was just the best thing to do, or were they just trying to score points with their God . So as to secure their place in paradise.
There, you have a common misconception. You can't earn your way into Heaven.
Aug 16, 2015 20:37:38 #
Verse of the Day for Sunday August 16th, 2015
But go and learn what this means: I desire mercy, not sacrifice. For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.
Matthew 9:13
Thoughts on Today's Verse...
God is merciful. Yes, we do remember those blazing occasions when he was fed up and furious with the unrighteousness and rebellion of his people. But, we remember them precisely because they were so striking and because they did not occur that frequently in the hundreds of years he led the Israelites. God has shown us his heart. God showed it to Nineveh despite Jonah. God revealed his heart in Jesus' compassion to people. God has demonstrated his mercy and love with you and me by calling us, sinners, to his side and to bring us salvation. He will not leave us unchanged and content with our sin. Yes, he does call us to repentance. But, the very fact that the Almighty God, ruler of heaven and earth would pause and invite us near and give us a chance to know his grace is almost too good to be true. That same God calls us to share that same mercy to others.
My Prayer...
Thank you, Almighty God, for being tender as well as powerful, forgiving as well as righteous, and merciful as well as holy. Please mature me in these sets of character defining traits. I don't want to be self-righteous, but righteous. I don't want to be a bully, but compassionately strong. I don't want to be sanctimonious, but true and merciful. Please fill me with your Spirit and gently confront me in those areas that need growth and change. May others see in me a reflection of you. In the name of Jesus I pray. Amen.
The Thoughts and Prayer on Today's Verse are written by Phil Ware.
But go and learn what this means: I desire mercy, not sacrifice. For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.
Matthew 9:13
Thoughts on Today's Verse...
God is merciful. Yes, we do remember those blazing occasions when he was fed up and furious with the unrighteousness and rebellion of his people. But, we remember them precisely because they were so striking and because they did not occur that frequently in the hundreds of years he led the Israelites. God has shown us his heart. God showed it to Nineveh despite Jonah. God revealed his heart in Jesus' compassion to people. God has demonstrated his mercy and love with you and me by calling us, sinners, to his side and to bring us salvation. He will not leave us unchanged and content with our sin. Yes, he does call us to repentance. But, the very fact that the Almighty God, ruler of heaven and earth would pause and invite us near and give us a chance to know his grace is almost too good to be true. That same God calls us to share that same mercy to others.
My Prayer...
Thank you, Almighty God, for being tender as well as powerful, forgiving as well as righteous, and merciful as well as holy. Please mature me in these sets of character defining traits. I don't want to be self-righteous, but righteous. I don't want to be a bully, but compassionately strong. I don't want to be sanctimonious, but true and merciful. Please fill me with your Spirit and gently confront me in those areas that need growth and change. May others see in me a reflection of you. In the name of Jesus I pray. Amen.
The Thoughts and Prayer on Today's Verse are written by Phil Ware.
Aug 16, 2015 20:37:55 #
Anigav6969 wrote:
Yeah, the machines not a person.....where do you come up with this nonsense ?
What is the difference? The mother is a life support unit for the fetus. Same thing.
Aug 16, 2015 20:42:54 #
Marcus Johnson wrote:
Which is why I can never trust a Christian. Even when they do good deeds ,you have to wonder, did they do the good deed because it was just the best thing to do, or were they just trying to score points with their God . So as to secure their place in paradise.
Or maybe just to do it made them feel better??? Ever pay it forward, not looking for anything but the pleasure you gave someone in that simple act that goes without a motive because the person you paid it forward for doesn't even know you did it???
Have you ever done something for someone just because you felt like it, without expecting anything in return??? I'm sure you have and it wasn't your intent to gain anything in return, either, was it??
Aug 16, 2015 20:42:55 #
Marcus Johnson wrote:
Which is why I can never trust a Christian. Even when they do good deeds ,you have to wonder, did they do the good deed because it was just the best thing to do, or were they just trying to score points with their God . So as to secure their place in paradise.
Or maybe just to do it made them feel better??? Ever pay it forward, not looking for anything but the pleasure you gave someone in that simple act that goes without a motive because the person you paid it forward for doesn't even know you did it???
Have you ever done something for someone just because you felt like it, without expecting anything in return??? I'm sure you have and it wasn't your intent to gain anything in return, either, was it??
Aug 16, 2015 20:57:57 #
lindajoy wrote:
Or maybe just to do it made them feel better??? Ever pay it forward, not looking for anything but the pleasure you gave someone in that simple act that goes without a motive because the person you paid it forward for doesn't even know you did it???
Have you ever done something for someone just because you felt like it, without expecting anything in return??? I'm sure you have and it wasn't your intent to gain anything in return, either, was it??
Have you ever done something for someone just because you felt like it, without expecting anything in return??? I'm sure you have and it wasn't your intent to gain anything in return, either, was it??
Welcome to the double post club. We've been expecting you. :)
Aug 16, 2015 21:06:29 #
lindajoy wrote:
Evening Marcus and Your welcome.. I put out what I... (show quote)
Your civility is very much appreciated. Civility is very often in short supply on this forum.
If you would care to read another powerful book by
Robert M Price. I would recommend ;
"The Christ-Myth Theory And Its Problems "
It wasn't an easy read for me , however it was very enlightening. I came away fairly convinced that Jesus[probably] never walked the earth.
Hope you had a great day.
Aug 16, 2015 21:08:20 #
lindajoy wrote:
Or maybe just to do it made them feel better??? Ever pay it forward, not looking for anything but the pleasure you gave someone in that simple act that goes without a motive because the person you paid it forward for doesn't even know you did it???
Have you ever done something for someone just because you felt like it, without expecting anything in return??? I'm sure you have and it wasn't your intent to gain anything in return, either, was it??
Have you ever done something for someone just because you felt like it, without expecting anything in return??? I'm sure you have and it wasn't your intent to gain anything in return, either, was it??
Of course. Paying it forward or acting responsibly on genuinely charitable urges is exactly the opposite of earning heaven or avoiding hell.
I know, those are irrelevant because it's for the love of JESUS that they live and breathe.
So why are they always going on about the heaven/hell thing. I mean if it's irrelevant and it runs potential converts off....
Aug 16, 2015 21:08:51 #
Grugore wrote:
Welcome to the double post club. We've been expecting you. :)
Ohhhhhhhhh you hush!!!!!! I know and I'm sorry..Sometimes I catch it sometimes not..Even reported to the Adm and well, you see the results of that~~~
So, I'll Thank You for the welcome, hope your enjoying your evening and read me twice, you'll understand me better, right??? :wink: :lol: :lol:
Aug 16, 2015 21:12:38 #
Singularity wrote:
Again, there is smut on that cookie!
When one hits a brick wall argument that refutes one's belief, if one chooses faith especially if it conflicts with facts before one's eyes, that is illogical, intellectually dishonest and immoral.
What is unique to religious studies is the substitution of faith for reason. Once such intellectual dishonesty is allowed, there is smut on the cookie.
When one hits a brick wall argument that refutes one's belief, if one chooses faith especially if it conflicts with facts before one's eyes, that is illogical, intellectually dishonest and immoral.
What is unique to religious studies is the substitution of faith for reason. Once such intellectual dishonesty is allowed, there is smut on the cookie.
Do u kno what u shud do with those cookies ur talkn about?
Aug 16, 2015 21:13:41 #
lindajoy wrote:
Or maybe just to do it made them feel better??? Ever pay it forward, not looking for anything but the pleasure you gave someone in that simple act that goes without a motive because the person you paid it forward for doesn't even know you did it???
Have you ever done something for someone just because you felt like it, without expecting anything in return??? I'm sure you have and it wasn't your intent to gain anything in return, either, was it??
Have you ever done something for someone just because you felt like it, without expecting anything in return??? I'm sure you have and it wasn't your intent to gain anything in return, either, was it??
Actually I help my neighbors and friends ,and never expect reciprocation.
You know I am certain that the overwhelming majority of Christians are indeed good and decent people. However from a religious standpoint ,one could always question their motivation based on the Christian premise of Heaven vs Hell. Basically good people go to heaven and bad people go to hell.
Aug 16, 2015 21:19:57 #
asphaltman wrote:
Do u kno what u shud do with those cookies ur talkn about?
You mean those metaphorical ones you've swallowed whole, without checking....
Wouldn't touch them. That's my point.
Aug 16, 2015 21:22:56 #
Marcus Johnson wrote:
Actually I help my neighbors and friends ,and never expect reciprocation.
You know I am certain that the overwhelming majority of Christians are indeed good and decent people. However from a religious standpoint ,one could always question their motivation based on the Christian premise of Heaven vs Hell. Basically good people go to heaven and bad people go to hell.
You know I am certain that the overwhelming majority of Christians are indeed good and decent people. However from a religious standpoint ,one could always question their motivation based on the Christian premise of Heaven vs Hell. Basically good people go to heaven and bad people go to hell.
I believe that premise is that PROPERLY REDEEMED people go to Heaven. Good, unbelieving people still get eternal torture.
Aug 16, 2015 21:26:33 #
Singularity wrote:
I believe that premise is that PROPERLY REDEEMED people go to Heaven. Good, unbelieving people still get eternal torture.
Indeed ,Thank you the clarification.
To be honest I find the idea of Eternity itself to be torturous. Regardless of location or destination.
Aug 16, 2015 21:31:34 #
Marcus Johnson wrote:
Indeed ,Thank you the clarification.
To be honest I find the idea of Eternity itself to be torturous. Regardless of location or destination.
To be honest I find the idea of Eternity itself to be torturous. Regardless of location or destination.
"Time and space are just mind tricks to help us show up on time for lunch...." not original, but I can't remember where I read it...
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