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Aug 16, 2015 16:57:53   #
Grugore
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Mind your business

And if the fetus cannot survive without the woman...especially in the first Tri mester, than it is part of her body


That's like saying someone on life support is part of the machine that keeps them alive.

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Aug 16, 2015 17:05:41   #
asphaltman
 
Grugore wrote:
That's like saying someone on life support is part of the machine that keeps them alive.


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Aug 16, 2015 17:20:49   #
PeterS
 
Grugore wrote:
That's like saying someone on life support is part of the machine that keeps them alive.

So separate them from the machine if they aren't.

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Aug 16, 2015 17:20:49   #
PeterS
 
Grugore wrote:
That's like saying someone on life support is part of the machine that keeps them alive.

So separate them from the machine if they aren't.

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Aug 16, 2015 17:38:53   #
Singularity
 
no propaganda please wrote:
No, you are wrong. you are a nice person, and a good man, just frustrated with the anger and hatred that spew from the "progressives." You are better than that, you know it and I know it. Please don't let them try to bring you down to their level. Besides, holding a gun to their heads to make them repent will not ever bring out true repentance, just resentment.

This man's posts to me and others have been rude, condescending, disrespectful, dishonest and crass. He is not a nice person! What is wrong with you! I chose to follow him in his rhetoric to see how low he would go. He aptly demonstrated that he is not a good man!

And why the heck apologize to you, "sir"!?! He grovels before some perceived authority of yours, but has yet to repent and ammend his offence against those of us whom he has trashed.

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Aug 16, 2015 17:42:55   #
PeterS
 
Singularity wrote:
This man's posts to me and others have been rude, condescending, disrespectful, dishonest and crass. He is not a nice person! What is wrong with you! I chose to follow him in his rhetoric to see how low he would go. He aptly demonstrated that he is not a good man!

And why the heck apologize to you, "sir"!?! He grovels before some perceived authority of yours, but has yet to repent and ammend his offence against those of us whom he has trashed.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Aug 16, 2015 18:00:58   #
Marcus Johnson
 
Singularity wrote:
This man's posts to me and others have been rude, condescending, disrespectful, dishonest and crass. He is not a nice person! What is wrong with you! I chose to follow him in his rhetoric to see how low he would go. He aptly demonstrated that he is not a good man!

And why the heck apologize to you, "sir"!?! He grovels before some perceived authority of yours, but has yet to repent and ammend his offence against those of us whom he has trashed.



:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Aug 16, 2015 18:44:48   #
Singularity
 
no propaganda please wrote:
While I do not agree with Singularity on much of anything, I fail to understand why conversations have to turn nasty. How can we expect to turn those who are unbelievers toward God if we insist on calling the unbelievers names and insulting either their intelligence or looks? As one who could never been considered a leading man in looks, telling other people I do not even know that they are ugly is really the epitome of foolishness.


It appears that your desire to convert others into your version of a Christian impels you to use friendship as a strategy, rather than, as I initially thought, that genuine friendship impels you to seek your misguided version of my greatest good.

I prefer simple lovingkindness, human to human.

No gods required.

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Aug 16, 2015 18:57:57   #
Marcus Johnson
 
Singularity wrote:
It appears that your desire to convert others into your version of a Christian impels you to use friendship as a strategy, rather than, as I initially thought, that genuine friendship impels you to seek your misguided version of my greatest good.

I prefer simple lovingkindness, human to human.

No gods required.


Which is why I can never trust a Christian. Even when they do good deeds ,you have to wonder, did they do the good deed because it was just the best thing to do, or were they just trying to score points with their God . So as to secure their place in paradise.

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Aug 16, 2015 19:20:27   #
Anigav6969
 
asphaltman wrote:
Then get on ur knees and pray. Then u might make sense.


AssFault...go take a nap

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Aug 16, 2015 19:21:14   #
Anigav6969
 
Grugore wrote:
That's like saying someone on life support is part of the machine that keeps them alive.


Yeah, the machines not a person.....where do you come up with this nonsense ?

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Aug 16, 2015 19:22:29   #
Anigav6969
 
Singularity wrote:
This man's posts to me and others have been rude, condescending, disrespectful, dishonest and crass. He is not a nice person! What is wrong with you! I chose to follow him in his rhetoric to see how low he would go. He aptly demonstrated that he is not a good man!

And why the heck apologize to you, "sir"!?! He grovels before some perceived authority of yours, but has yet to repent and ammend his offence against those of us whom he has trashed.


Yup....it's called hypocrisy....they are full of it....and blind to it as well

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Aug 16, 2015 19:44:19   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
The hatred and anger spewed by progressives? We aren't the one who freak when challenged? The problem with Christians is that nothing you believe in is based on reason so you can't argue using a rational argument. For that reason you consistently use logical fallacies for which ad-hominem attacks (name calling) seems to be one of your favorites. It's not progressives level that you are resorting to but a level that is all yours, all by yourself...
Hate to burst your bubble, bubba, but the Bible is loaded with both deductive and inductive reasoning. In additions, these two modes of reasoning and logic are fundamental to Bible scholars and theologians, or to anyone seriously studying the scriptures. Nearly all Bible study courses use either or both methods, and some even identify the process.

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Aug 16, 2015 20:30:28   #
Singularity
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Hate to burst your bubble, bubba, but the Bible is loaded with both deductive and inductive reasoning. In additions, these two modes of reasoning and logic are fundamental to Bible scholars and theologians, or to anyone seriously studying the scriptures. Nearly all Bible study courses use either or both methods, and some even identify the process.

Again, there is smut on that cookie!

When one hits a brick wall argument that refutes one's belief, if one chooses faith especially if it conflicts with facts before one's eyes, that is illogical, intellectually dishonest and immoral.

What is unique to religious studies is the substitution of faith for reason. Once such intellectual dishonesty is allowed, there is smut on the cookie.

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Aug 16, 2015 20:33:25   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Marcus Johnson wrote:
Try reading anything by Robert M Price.

Or Richard Carrier. There are many others also.
The Historical evidence for Jesus is actually quite shaky.

I will give you credit for the "amazingbibletimeline" link.
It appears to be honest in its approach. As it readily admits that there is no evidence for major events such as the ,exodus, or the wandering around part.
It also quite honestly admits that the Bible is a spiritual book and not a history book.

Thanks for sharing.
Try reading anything by Robert M Price. br br O... (show quote)


Evening Marcus and Your welcome.. I put out what I read not trying to slant it one way or the other...Thank You for your recommendation to read Robert M. Price..The only book I ever read of his was Prophecy and Palimpsest, where he outlines the case for a human rather than divine origin of the book, arguing that it is "a modern pseudepigraph, the work of Joseph Smith himself," the founder of the Latter-day Saints. "The Book of Mormon never existed as a set of golden plates in a foreign language" handed down by the angel Moroni, but was Smith's way of presenting America's frontier heritage in biblical language. His portrayal of American Christianity was really just a reflection of what he thought Christianity ought to become, and his fictionalized image of the biblical past was a mirror of the way he thought things ought to be."
Gave me thoughts to consider, didn't challenge "my faith" as I'm always looking for answers....

I've read a couple of things you have posted and don't necessarily disagree with your analogy but that's what I define it..Your analogy vs mine...

I enjoy the learning curve of anyone's opinion and Thank you for yours..

We must agree to disagree....

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