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Aug 5, 2015 10:10:02   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Ricko wrote:
Floyd-believe you are correct and the egos will not allow republicans to bow out gracefully and support the leading candidate. Republicans seem to be slow learners when it comes to politics. Uninformed people, favoring Bush over Walker, indicates that they have not yet learned that Bush will not fare well in a National election. Good Luck America !!!


I am from Wisconsin. The one I fear most is Walker.

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Aug 5, 2015 10:15:35   #
Serenity54321
 
Tgards79 wrote:
Don't you think you may be a wee bit overswayed by the pounding of the press for 24 years? She is a remarkable person, not perfect, but most of what you have read from both the liberal and conservative press has been sensationalized to make a story. That is what the press does, and she is good copy.


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Please, Hillary stands up for nothing. It is evident in her public and personal life. By her actions.

Many assumed that as a white female Hillary would automatically get the white female vote, much like Obama automatically got the black male vote. That has proven not to be the case - in fact, the opposite is true. White females detest her - even those who voted her husband in twice. Don't believe me? Check the polls.

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Aug 5, 2015 10:33:24   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
lindajoy wrote:
Well now LA, I hate to have to agree with you but I certainly do as it relates certain things...I meant Trump, like it or , right or wrong will act in doing something.....He likes the attention and yes, I could see him building a wall and billing Mexico..Stopping their access to our guns, money and or letting them come into our country to peddle their drugs until they paid up..Sure can..

As it relates being a conservative, I think for business he is/will be and knows without Corporate America the economy and all that money other corporations need will not be her..So he'll work hard for them getting as a reward a job market again.

Pressed send to soon.

As candidates for president emerge it is important to know where each stands on issues that are important to AMERICA. The USA cannot afford to make another mistake in electing an anti-American Socialist, someone with a poor track record of public service, or someone who values illegal invaders more than hard-working, loyal Americans and her military.

Sorry this is so long, but its worth the read.........
"Trump is waking some of the RINOs up. The criticisms of Trump are amazingly&#8203; missing something. They are&#8203; lacking in &#8203;negative stories from those who work for him or have had business dealings with him. After all the employees he’s had and all the business deals he’s made there is a void of criticism. In fact, long term employees call him a strong and merciful leader and say he is far more righteous and of high integrity&#8203; than people may think&#8203;.And while it may surprise many, he’s actually humble when it comes to his generosity and kindness. A good example is a story that tells of his limo breaking down on a deserted highway outside of New York City. A middle-aged couple stopped to help him and as a thank you he paid off their mortgage, but he didn’t brag about that. Generous and good people rarely talk of charity they bestow on others.&#8203;But as much as all this is interesting, the real thing that people want to know is what Donald Trump’s plan is for America. It’s funny how so many people say they don’t know what it is, or they act like Trump is hiding it. The information is readily available if people would just do a little homework. But, since most Americans won't do their own research, here, in no particular order, is an overview of many of Trumps positions and plans:

1.) Trump believes that America should not intervene militarily in other country’s problems without being compensated for doing so. If America is going to risk the lives of our soldiers and incur the expense of going to war, then the nations we help must be willing to pay for our help. Using the Iraq War as an example, he cites the huge monetary expense to American taxpayers (over $1.5 trillion, and possibly much more depending on what sources are used to determine the cost) in addition to the cost in human life. He suggests that Iraq should have been required to give us enough of their oil to pay for the expenses we incurred. He includes in those expenses the medical costs for our military and $5 million for each family that lost a loved one in the war and $2 million for each family of soldiers who received severe injuries.

2.) Speaking of the military, Trump wants America to have a strong military again. He believes the single most important function of the federal government is national defense. He has said he wants to find the General Patton or General MacArthur that could lead our military buildup back to the strength it needs to be. While he hasn’t said it directly that I know of, Trump’s attitude about America and about winning tells me he’d most likely be quick to eliminate rules of engagement that handicap our military in battle. Clearly Trump is a “win at all costs” kind of guy, and I’m sure that would apply to our national defense and security, too.

3.) Trump wants a strong foreign policy and believes that it must include 7 core principles (which seem to support my comment in the last point):

American interests come first. Always. No apologies.
· Maximum firepower and military preparedness.
· Only go to war to win.
· Stay loyal to your friends and suspicious of your enemies.
· Keep the technological sword razor sharp.
· See the unseen. Prepare for threats before they materialize.
· Respect and support our present and past warriors.

4.) Trump believes that terrorists who are captured should be treated as military combatants, not as criminals like the Obama administration treats them.

5.) Trump makes the point that China’s manipulation of their currency has given them unfair advantage in our trade dealings with them. He says we must tax their imports to offset their currency manipulation, which will cause American companies to be competitive again and drive manufacturing back to America and create jobs here.
Although he sees China as the biggest offender, he believes that America should protect itself from all foreign efforts to take our jobs and manufacturing. For example, Ford is building a plant in Mexico and Trump suggests that every part or vehicle Ford makes in Mexico be taxed 35% if they want to bring it into the U. S., which would cause companies like Ford to no longer be competitive using their Mexican operations and move manufacturing back to the U. S., once again creating jobs here.
6.) Trump wants passage of NOPEC legislation (No Oil Producing and Exporting Cartels Act – NOPEC – S.394), which would allow the government to sue OPEC for violating antitrust laws. According to Trump, that would break up the cartel. He also wants to unleash our energy companies to drill domestically (sound like Sarah Palin’s drill baby, drill?) thereby increasing domestic production creating jobs and driving domestic costs of oil and gas down while reducing dependence on foreign oil.

7.) Trump believes a secure border is critical for both security and prosperity in America. He wants to build a wall to stop illegals from entering and put controls on immigration. (And he says he’ll get Mexico to pay for the wall, which many have scoffed at, but given his business successes I wouldn’t put it past him.) He also wants to enforce our immigration laws and provide no path to citizenship for illegals.

8.) Trump wants a radical change to the tax system to not only make it better for average Americans, but also to encourage businesses to stay here and foreign businesses to move here. The resulting influx of money to our nation would do wonders for our economy. He wants to make America the place to do business. He also wants to lower the death tax and the taxes on capital gains and dividends. This would put more than $1.6 trillion back into the economy and help rebuild the 1.5 million jobs we’ve lost to the current tax system. He also wants to charge companies who outsource jobs overseas a 20% tax, but for those willing to move jobs back to America they would not be taxed. And for citizens he has a tax plan that would allow Americans to keep more of what they earn and spark economic growth. He wants to change the personal income tax to:

Up to $30,000 taxed at 1%
· From $30,000 to $100,000 taxed at 5%
· From $100,000 to $1,000,000 taxed at 10%
· $1,000,000 and above taxed at 15%

9.) Trump wants Obamacare repealed. He says it’s a “job-killing, health care-destroying monstrosity” that “can’t be reformed, salvaged, or fixed.” He believes in allowing real competition in the health insurance marketplace to allow competition to drive prices down. He also believes in tort reform to get rid of defensive medicine and lower costs. "

And on and On and On~~~~I like it~~Don't know that the Donald will pull the ticket but so far he's off and running and got the rest of them "running too"
Well now LA, I hate to have to agree with you but ... (show quote)

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Aug 5, 2015 10:38:42   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
lindajoy wrote:
Well now LA, I hate to have to agree with you but I certainly do as it relates certain things...I meant Trump, like it or , right or wrong will act in doing something.....He likes the attention and yes, I could see him building a wall and billing Mexico..Stopping their access to our guns, money and or letting them come into our country to peddle their drugs until they paid up..Sure can..

As it relates being a conservative, I think for business he is/will be and knows without Corporate America the economy and all that money other corporations need will not be her..So he'll work hard for them getting as a reward a job market again.

As candidates for president emerge it is important to know where each stands on issues that are important to AMERICA. The USA cannot afford to make another mistake in electing an anti-American Socialist, someone with a poor track record of public service, or someone who values illegal invaders more than hard-working, loyal Americans and her military.

Sorry this is so long, but its worth the read.........
"Trump is waking some of the RINOs up. The criticisms of Trump are amazingly&#8203; missing something. They are&#8203; lacking in &#8203;negative stories from those who work for him or have had business dealings with him. After all the employees he’s had and all the business deals he’s made there is a void of criticism. In fact, long term employees call him a strong and merciful leader and say he is far more righteous and of high integrity&#8203; than people may think&#8203;.And while it may surprise many, he’s actually humble when it comes to his generosity and kindness. A good example is a story that tells of his limo breaking down on a deserted highway outside of New York City. A middle-aged couple stopped to help him and as a thank you he paid off their mortgage, but he didn’t brag about that. Generous and good people rarely talk of charity they bestow on others.&#8203;But as much as all this is interesting, the real thing that people want to know is what Donald Trump’s plan is for America. It’s funny how so many people say they don’t know what it is, or they act like Trump is hiding it. The information is readily available if people would just do a little homework. But, since most Americans won't do their own research, here, in no particular order, is an overview of many of Trumps positions and plans:

1.) Trump believes that America should not intervene militarily in other country’s problems without being compensated for doing so. If America is going to risk the lives of our soldiers and incur the expense of going to war, then the nations we help must be willing to pay for our help. Using the Iraq War as an example, he cites the huge monetary expense to American taxpayers (over $1.5 trillion, and possibly much more depending on what sources are used to determine the cost) in addition to the cost in human life. He suggests that Iraq should have been required to give us enough of their oil to pay for the expenses we incurred. He includes in those expenses the medical costs for our military and $5 million for each family that lost a loved one in the war and $2 million for each family of soldiers who received severe injuries.

2.) Speaking of the military, Trump wants America to have a strong military again. He believes the single most important function of the federal government is national defense. He has said he wants to find the General Patton or General MacArthur that could lead our military buildup back to the strength it needs to be. While he hasn’t said it directly that I know of, Trump’s attitude about America and about winning tells me he’d most likely be quick to eliminate rules of engagement that handicap our military in battle. Clearly Trump is a “win at all costs” kind of guy, and I’m sure that would apply to our national defense and security, too.

3.) Trump wants a strong foreign policy and believes that it must include 7 core principles (which seem to support my comment in the last point):

American interests come first. Always. No apologies.
· Maximum firepower and military preparedness.
· Only go to war to win.
· Stay loyal to your friends and suspicious of your enemies.
· Keep the technological sword razor sharp.
· See the unseen. Prepare for threats before they materialize.
· Respect and support our present and past warriors.

4.) Trump believes that terrorists who are captured should be treated as military combatants, not as criminals like the Obama administration treats them.

5.) Trump makes the point that China’s manipulation of their currency has given them unfair advantage in our trade dealings with them. He says we must tax their imports to offset their currency manipulation, which will cause American companies to be competitive again and drive manufacturing back to America and create jobs here.
Although he sees China as the biggest offender, he believes that America should protect itself from all foreign efforts to take our jobs and manufacturing. For example, Ford is building a plant in Mexico and Trump suggests that every part or vehicle Ford makes in Mexico be taxed 35% if they want to bring it into the U. S., which would cause companies like Ford to no longer be competitive using their Mexican operations and move manufacturing back to the U. S., once again creating jobs here.
6.) Trump wants passage of NOPEC legislation (No Oil Producing and Exporting Cartels Act – NOPEC – S.394), which would allow the government to sue OPEC for violating antitrust laws. According to Trump, that would break up the cartel. He also wants to unleash our energy companies to drill domestically (sound like Sarah Palin’s drill baby, drill?) thereby increasing domestic production creating jobs and driving domestic costs of oil and gas down while reducing dependence on foreign oil.

7.) Trump believes a secure border is critical for both security and prosperity in America. He wants to build a wall to stop illegals from entering and put controls on immigration. (And he says he’ll get Mexico to pay for the wall, which many have scoffed at, but given his business successes I wouldn’t put it past him.) He also wants to enforce our immigration laws and provide no path to citizenship for illegals.

8.) Trump wants a radical change to the tax system to not only make it better for average Americans, but also to encourage businesses to stay here and foreign businesses to move here. The resulting influx of money to our nation would do wonders for our economy. He wants to make America the place to do business. He also wants to lower the death tax and the taxes on capital gains and dividends. This would put more than $1.6 trillion back into the economy and help rebuild the 1.5 million jobs we’ve lost to the current tax system. He also wants to charge companies who outsource jobs overseas a 20% tax, but for those willing to move jobs back to America they would not be taxed. And for citizens he has a tax plan that would allow Americans to keep more of what they earn and spark economic growth. He wants to change the personal income tax to:

Up to $30,000 taxed at 1%
· From $30,000 to $100,000 taxed at 5%
· From $100,000 to $1,000,000 taxed at 10%
· $1,000,000 and above taxed at 15%

9.) Trump wants Obamacare repealed. He says it’s a “job-killing, health care-destroying monstrosity” that “can’t be reformed, salvaged, or fixed.” He believes in allowing real competition in the health insurance marketplace to allow competition to drive prices down. He also believes in tort reform to get rid of defensive medicine and lower costs. "

And on and On and On~~~~I like it~~Don't know that the Donald will pull the ticket but so far he's off and running and got the rest of them "running too"
Well now LA, I hate to have to agree with you but ... (show quote)



Up to $30,000 taxed at 1%
· From $30,000 to $100,000 taxed at 5%
· From $100,000 to $1,000,000 taxed at 10%
· $1,000,000 and above taxed at 15%

I don't know about you but that amount of money would only be enough to open the doors & turn the lights on.

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Aug 5, 2015 10:48:46   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Serenity54321 wrote:
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Generally, nearly all the white females I talk to feel exactly the same way. The only.ones who don't are the far, far, leftists.

Hillary, unlike Bill, cannot win on the black vote alone. This could ax her election bid, especially if the scandals keep coming.


I hope we see the succession of that, Serenity..I really do..The womens vote holds a lot of power anymore..Why they all pander to us now..... :D :D

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Aug 5, 2015 10:48:46   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Double post, sorry

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Aug 5, 2015 10:53:45   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Up to $30,000 taxed at 1%
· From $30,000 to $100,000 taxed at 5%
· From $100,000 to $1,000,000 taxed at 10%
· $1,000,000 and above taxed at 15%

I don't know about you but that amount of money would only be enough to open the doors & turn the lights on.


I agree more would be needed in the lower tear, but hey, its a good format, flat rate tax bases I mean..Also liked Herman Cains 9-9-9- tax proposal too..Anything is better than what is used now..Herman had more to iron out with it as well, but it was a good starting point...Problem is nothing will happen, The Feds will never buy into it, it would reduce government man hours and eliminate any number of has been do nothings up there...

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Aug 5, 2015 10:57:31   #
Serenity54321
 
lindajoy wrote:
I hope we see the succession of that, Serenity..I really do..The womens vote holds a lot of power anymore..Why they all pander to us now..... :D :D


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The assumption that white women would automatically vote for Hillary just because she's also a white woman was a huge error in assumption. That single error may be enough to derail her whole campaign.

I read a commentary somewhere that Hillary's campaign is in "shock" at her astoundingly low approval rating among white females.

She is going to have to find a way to "romance" some of them back or she will flat-out lose this election.

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Aug 5, 2015 11:13:36   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
lindajoy wrote:
I agree more would be needed in the lower tear, but hey, its a good format, flat rate tax bases I mean..Also liked Herman Cains 9-9-9- tax proposal too..Anything is better than what is used now..Herman had more to iron out with it as well, but it was a good starting point...Problem is nothing will happen, The Feds will never buy into it, it would reduce government man hours and eliminate any number of has been do nothings up there...


If the masses don't have the money to by the stuff being sold the economy sucks.

Most of the problems we are having to day is supply
is too large & demand is not enough.

There is just not enough money in the hands of the Masses to
satisfy the demands of the market place & have money to pay taxes.

Failing to see what has happened to the average persons bottom line since Reagen makes one miss the picture of today's economics.

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Aug 5, 2015 11:19:17   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
lindajoy: I is was going to point out your mistake in spelling tier.

But I change my mind & feel that tear's is the best way to go.

We all need to shed a tear over the mess we are in.

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Aug 5, 2015 12:49:54   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Tgards79 wrote:
Don't you think you may be a wee bit overswayed by the pounding of the press for 24 years? She is a remarkable person, not perfect, but most of what you have read from both the liberal and conservative press has been sensationalized to make a story. That is what the press does, and she is good copy.


I don't pay much attention to the slanted press..I measure her worth by her actions or lack thereof....Her proven track record of accomplishing nothing while in different positions and her own bald face lies....That is my measurement....

She has gotten negative on occasion yet she's also gotten plenty of slide too.........

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Aug 5, 2015 13:20:00   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
lindajoy: I is was going to point out your mistake in spelling tier.

But I change my mind & feel that tear's is the best way to go.

We all need to shed a tear over the mess we are in.


Thank You Floyd..Right you are and I know better too...geeezzzzz...Maybe sub-conscious?? No, just not thinking when typing...Also good at that too.. :lol:

BTW, I agree with your post before this one as well....

Supply and demand makes or break...Think Foreign trade~~oil, specifically and we see a gone wild commodity that dictates over-reaching prices OPEC knows will fly because they are the "big boys" in the arena...Get away from it and they will get a handle on it quick enough..We saw a touch of that last few months when it hit record low levels because they had so much on demand and weren't moving it as quickly...

Without a viable working market, the money dries up and the domino effect of spending less impacts far more than just the inability to now buy...Corporate America saw it coming and is exactly why they hi-tailed out of our Country~~think GM after all the hand outs to save them..Build billion dollar factories in Mexico and China?? Keep their product over there too!!!

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Aug 5, 2015 16:34:13   #
okie don
 
You mean Socialist/Communistic ideals, I presume...

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Aug 5, 2015 18:44:10   #
markinny
 
Tgards79 wrote:
Don't minimize or dismiss Donald Trump. He is a high-speed train wreck obliterating the race for the GOP nomination as a functioning process. And there is no end in sight -- he is built to last, perhaps even through an independent run. And is Hillary Clinton a train wreck as well, in slow motion? Joe Biden is clearly beginning to wonder.
http://www.borntorunthenumbers.com/2015/08/july-2015-election-review-one-high.html


hillary is going down for the count.

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Aug 5, 2015 20:05:30   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
markinny wrote:
hillary is going down for the count.


She's skated many a "going down" from Watergate to Foster and everything in between..She knows how to play the criminal aspect of anything and that's about all she knows...I put nothing past her and can only hope she takes herself out..Her party want her because she surely is one of them!! She' is not Country first, she could care less about it or its citizens..line her pockets and she'll do anything for you..

I hear and read they are concerned and hedging a bit?? Hear and read it but if "actions speak louder than words" and they always do she's going in..............

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