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Oct 24, 2013 02:11:12   #
rumitoid
 
We are being kept in programmed stasis with our pruned ideas and petty differnces, perpetually at each other's throat so that we do not see how the breath of liberty is being taken from us. No conspiracy theory or time to deflect to party differences. THERE ARE NO PARTIES. We have no representatives in government! No one speaks for us or cares aboout us. Hate the libtard or conservatard and you hate your own freedom. Fool. Money and power have ruled for a while; principles and ideals are long gone. Yet if we come together we can bring that back. We need to bring that back.

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Oct 24, 2013 02:51:50   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
We are being kept in programmed stasis with our pruned ideas and petty differnces, perpetually at each other's throat so that we do not see how the breath of liberty is being taken from us. No conspiracy theory or time to deflect to party differences. THERE ARE NO PARTIES. We have no representatives in government! No one speaks for us or cares aboout us. Hate the libtard or conservatard and you hate your own freedom. Fool. Money and power have ruled for a while; principles and ideals are long gone. Yet if we come together we can bring that back. We need to bring that back.
We are being kept in programmed stasis with our pr... (show quote)


If we vote for someone in 2014 simply because they have a D or R after their name we are lost and can kiss the American Dream goodbye.

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Oct 24, 2013 05:24:56   #
Michael Nestorick Loc: Northeastern Pa.
 
We need a 3 Party system. We are falling into The New World Orders Plan a house divided falls.

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Oct 24, 2013 08:22:27   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
rumitoid wrote:
We are being kept in programmed stasis with our pruned ideas and petty differnces, perpetually at each other's throat so that we do not see how the breath of liberty is being taken from us. No conspiracy theory or time to deflect to party differences. THERE ARE NO PARTIES. We have no representatives in government! No one speaks for us or cares aboout us. Hate the libtard or conservatard and you hate your own freedom. Fool. Money and power have ruled for a while; principles and ideals are long gone. Yet if we come together we can bring that back. We need to bring that back.
We are being kept in programmed stasis with our pr... (show quote)


Well Said! The politicians are keeping us fighting each other and not them . And I'll add another that is fast dissapearing "freedom" .

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Oct 24, 2013 08:29:32   #
Liberty Tree
 
rumitoid wrote:
We are being kept in programmed stasis with our pruned ideas and petty differnces, perpetually at each other's throat so that we do not see how the breath of liberty is being taken from us. No conspiracy theory or time to deflect to party differences. THERE ARE NO PARTIES. We have no representatives in government! No one speaks for us or cares aboout us. Hate the libtard or conservatard and you hate your own freedom. Fool. Money and power have ruled for a while; principles and ideals are long gone. Yet if we come together we can bring that back. We need to bring that back.
We are being kept in programmed stasis with our pr... (show quote)


The really sad thing is that the few in Congress who try to speak up and do the right thing get beat down by both sides and the press. It makes those who would want to represent the people not to want to even run for office.

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Oct 24, 2013 08:33:51   #
stan3186
 
Michael Nestorick wrote:
We need a 3 Party system. We are falling into The New World Orders Plan a house divided falls.


What we need is a Constitutional Convention that results in adding Amendments that make loopholes and special interest written in laws illegal and punishable with removal from office and jail time as well as setting term limits on all offices, including the supreme court. It need to be retroactive to all laws presently on the books, therefore removing the loopholes that these thieves in Congress and the White HOuse take advantage of.

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Oct 24, 2013 08:43:17   #
OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!
 
BigMike wrote:
If we vote for someone in 2014 simply because they have a D or R after their name we are lost and can kiss the American Dream goodbye.


Sorry, I disagree. I used to vote for the person, not party, but not anymore. I quit doing that, and started voting straight Republican ticket after I learned that Democrats, regardless of personal beliefs, and regardless of their constituents wishes, vote almost entirely in lock step with their leader (right now it's Pelosi and Reid). If they stray from this, they are severely punished when it comes to re-election time.

I agree that the Republicans are not perfect, but they do not, for the most part, vote in lock step with their leaders. To the chagrin of the RINOS, the Tea Party electees being a good example of going against their leaders.

A three party system will only result in the Democrat Party being in power forever.

The solution is to get involved. Get your friends and neighbors involved in the election process. Educate yourself on the issues and political process, and educate those around you. Then, show up at the ballot box. If 4 million Republicans had not stayed home during this last election, Obama would not be President right now.

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Oct 24, 2013 08:47:28   #
Artemis
 
Michael Nestorick wrote:
We need a 3 Party system. We are falling into The New World Orders Plan a house divided falls.


We need no parties! I've have felt this for years, all be of independent vote and not be manipulated by this gang mentality of "parties," which is what the dogma is. Allowing the politicians to control and maneuver,and lead the group as the Sheppard to his sheep.

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Oct 24, 2013 09:05:53   #
joe1941
 
OldSchool wrote:
Sorry, I disagree. I used to vote for the person, not party, but not anymore. I quit doing that, and started voting straight Republican ticket after I learned that Democrats, regardless of personal beliefs, and regardless of their constituents wishes, vote almost entirely in lock step with their leader (right now it's Pelosi and Reid). If they stray from this, they are severely punished when it comes to re-election time.

I agree that the Republicans are not perfect, but they do not, for the most part, vote in lock step with their leaders. To the chagrin of the RINOS, the Tea Party electees being a good example of going against their leaders.

A three party system will only result in the Democrat Party being in power forever.

The solution is to get involved. Get your friends and neighbors involved in the election process. Educate yourself on the issues and political process, and educate those around you. Then, show up at the ballot box. If 4 million Republicans had not stayed home during this last election, Obama would not be President right now.
Sorry, I disagree. I used to vote for the person,... (show quote)


There should be absolutely no party affiliation on the ballot and nobody should be able to vote a straight party ticket.

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Oct 24, 2013 10:01:16   #
OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!
 
joe1941 wrote:
There should be absolutely no party affiliation on the ballot and nobody should be able to vote a straight party ticket.


I couldn't disagree with you more! You want to take away my RIGHT to vote straight ticket? I don't think so!

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Oct 24, 2013 10:05:50   #
bluejacket
 
Michael Nestorick wrote:
We need a 3 Party system. We are falling into The New World Orders Plan a house divided falls.


actually I think we need a no party system as parties tend to coalesce and acquire power and devolve into corruption

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Oct 24, 2013 10:17:09   #
Liberty Tree
 
stan3186 wrote:
What we need is a Constitutional Convention that results in adding Amendments that make loopholes and special interest written in laws illegal and punishable with removal from office and jail time as well as setting term limits on all offices, including the supreme court. It need to be retroactive to all laws presently on the books, therefore removing the loopholes that these thieves in Congress and the White HOuse take advantage of.


One solution is term limits, but those in office would never agree to that.

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Oct 24, 2013 10:22:07   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
The only apparent agenda for either party are aimed at the next election. I get e-mails from both parties and they end with either " help us keep the house " or " help us get the house back " and then ask for money. The ENTIRE Government has become institutionalized. Every issue becomes a platform for the next election. Consequently, nothing really gets done and things go on as they always have. Neither party is able to live up to it's ideals, assuming they even remember what they were.

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Oct 24, 2013 10:30:43   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Michael Nestorick wrote:
We need a 3 Party system. We are falling into The New World Orders Plan a house divided falls.


We have a third part now . The Independant party . But it dosn't work to well . They don't have the money the Dem's and Repbl's. have.
It's mosty all about money , you can sell anything to people if you have enough money to advertise on T.V.

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Oct 24, 2013 10:32:51   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
One solution is term limits, but those in office would never agree to that.


I agree with you , and that's a good start !

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