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Jul 19, 2015 10:24:54   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I will address only your first paragraph.

The repugs, the ultra-conservs, etc, have turned against this president and even announced their wish to do anything and everything to remove him, no matter the cost to US citizens. And they have done it for the most part. Even turned from things that they themselves first espoused, like the insurance mandate. LOL! A repug idea from the get go. And for it to within a week of Obama announcing it to be a part of Obamcare. Within the week!

To be so fervently against one person to such an nth degree can mean not much other than racism, for I've never witnessed it like this before. Add to that the continual references to his color and name (I can understand the name issue), then what do you think a rational, church bred, objective kid is going to think? Der.
I will address only your first paragraph. br br T... (show quote)



Why only one paragraph, to address? I'm not racist, nor of my nearly two years on this forum have I uttered so much as a whisper, or hint convitable of such. Yet KHH1 calls me one, and has told me to "PHUCK off" for simply disagreeing. I find his posting, selected with intent to incite.
As for the affordable care act, I too am against it and at first could not understand why medicare and Medicaid where not expanded, especially since the poor that where claimed to not have insurance, already qualify for medicaid.
Time and space does not allow for the reasons the ACA just does not make sense when such a lower cost existing two systems already exists. My greatest concern is the insanity of the % of cost of our GDP, the highest in the world, with less care than countries at half and less that percentage. This high percentage when combined with existing medicare/ medicaid % of GDP push us way past the tipping point of economic suicide which is 75% of programs to GDP, pre-ACA we where at 54% to GDP. Pro-ACA Economists are projecting the next decade, employment vs subsidized enrollment the individuals paying would need to triple, or the government participation in order to maintain status-quo, which includes the reduction of services rolling out this year thru 2017 via procedures being turned down, medications turned down by insurance companies. Which brings us back to no alternative than our government transitioning into 100% state run, take out the middle man (insurance companies) which is actually the goal. Peoples from around the world came to America for medical care, with the advancements of a free competitive market and the hundreds of billions spent on R&D which today is running at 80% post ACA and projected half that in less than a decade.
I still believe the best choice for Americans would have been open the competition of insurance companies by removing the law of not being able to purchase health insurance across state lines, put limits on liability law suits, and remove the barriers of the FDA and the millions of dollars and years to put proven medications on market which has removed the little guys from R&D and the ability to enter the market. Currently we have a monopoly of the biggest pharmaceutical companies raping the system, and under the current system reducing their R&D.
I agree the conservatives did nothing to bring about change, but during the deepest recession since 1929 all energy was use to "force" push this plan through, voted on behind closed doors not one conservative even given the chance for an up or down vote. Bottom line both parties have failed us, and the corruption of the parties and their unchallenged power growth, sadly I believe is beyond repair, not because of anything other than our elected officials have become lawless and all powerful. When we see the Dems putting a GOP before congress or GOP to a Dem, it's all political and the ones (most of congress and the Senate) are left alone so long as their votes are able to be bought when needed. I will close my comments with regardless of your or my party affiliation, in today's world, we all have failed, corruption in the extreme of our elected officials, from mayor's, governors, congress, and Senate as well as everything in between.

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Jul 19, 2015 11:27:11   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Sure. Care to try again? I thought you were better Loki?


Simply one more thing you were wrong about. Kind of like your fairy tale about Hirohito's suicide, then trying to cover it with another lie that it was his successor who died of cancer in 1989, instead of just admitting your mistake.
Inbreeding occurs far more frequently among the aristocracy than the "hillbillies." You seem to think yourself a member of the aristocracy. As far as brothers marrying brothers, I suppose you people procreate via adultery.

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Jul 20, 2015 00:31:42   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Loki wrote:
Simply one more thing you were wrong about. Kind of like your fairy tale about Hirohito's suicide, then trying to cover it with another lie that it was his successor who died of cancer in 1989, instead of just admitting your mistake.
Inbreeding occurs far more frequently among the aristocracy than the "hillbillies." You seem to think yourself a member of the aristocracy. As far as brothers marrying brothers, I suppose you people procreate via adultery.


You'll have to do better but, you are correct about known history. I've been reminded that some things are not out in the open. Your history will tell of a naval commander who had his plane flown into the sea. Another version will be that he went on a mission, claiming to be unaware of Japan's surrender. Take your pick. I forgot that some things have been left unsaid.

By the way, inbreeding is a way of isolating desirable traits in individuals. Technically speaking, it's not that big of a risk.

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Jul 20, 2015 00:52:39   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You'll have to do better but, you are correct about known history. I've been reminded that some things are not out in the open. Your history will tell of a naval commander who had his plane flown into the sea. Another version will be that he went on a mission, claiming to be unaware of Japan's surrender. Take your pick. I forgot that some things have been left unsaid.

By the way, inbreeding is a way of isolating desirable traits in individuals. Technically speaking, it's not that big of a risk.
You'll have to do better but, you are correct abou... (show quote)



Technically speaking, it appears the law of averages caught up with the procreators down at your end of the gene pool.

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Jul 20, 2015 00:57:52   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
KHH1 wrote:
**Obama did not "tear" into no one.....he is a cool, calm guy...he looked kind of amazed (subtly) that the guy would even ask such a question. He answered the question. He also did what no other President has been known to do...even asked/almost dared for additional questions.....also said that he wishes anyone out in the politcal realm would come forward with alternatives.....and if they think war is the alternative, man-up and be honest, and then the dialogue would continue. This article insinuates that "angry black man" right-wing stereotype....watch the press conference....and you'll see the difference between that and this article.....'sigh'


Obama tears into reporter for asking about Americans imprisoned in Iran

By T. Becket Adams•7/15/15 3:00 PM
President Obama was displeased Wednesday afternoon when a reporter asked him how the White House could celebrate its nuclear deal with Tehran when four Americans are languishing in Iranian captivity.

CBS News' Major Garrett questioned the president during a scheduled White House press briefing on the Obama administration's recently announced nuclear deal with Iran.

"As you well know there are four Americans in Iran. Three held on trumped-up charges, according to your administration, and one whereabouts unknown," he said, referring to Christian pastor Saeed Abedini, retired U.S. Marine Amir Hekmati, Washington Post Tehran bureau chief Jason Rezaian and former FBI agent Robert Levinson, who went missing in Iran years ago.

Garrett continued, "Can you tell the country, sir, why you are content with all the fanfare around this deal to leave the conscience of this nation, the strength of this nation, unaccounted for in relation to these four Americans?"


The president at first seemed at a loss for words, but eventually responded to the CBS News reporter with criticism.

"I got to give you credit, Major, for how you craft those questions. The notion that I am content as I celebrate with American citizens languishing in Iranian jails — Major, that's nonsense and you should know better," Obama said.

"I've met with the families of some of those folks. Nobody's content," he added.

Garret responded to the president's criticism after the briefing, explaining that he intended to be "provocative."

"Sometimes you have to take a scolding from a president to get to an answer," he said during a CBS News live report. "That's part of my job."

"Politics, especially those elected as president, are very adept at creating straw men … that's exactly what the president did," he added. "Clearly it struck a nerve. That was my intention. Was it provocative? Yes. Was it intended to be as such? Absolutely."

Garrett added that he found it odd that the White House agreed to a deal that does nothing for the four imprisoned Americans, even as the administration has said repeatedly that it's not "content" with leaving them behind.

The deal struck between the United States and Iran, the product of some 20 months of negotiations, has the United States agreeing to ease economic sanctions in return for guarantees that the state sponsor of terrorism will pursue nuclear power for peaceful purposes only.

The agreement does not, however, do anything for the four imprisoned Americans.

Secretary of State Jon Kerry conceded as much this week when he said in reference to the deal announced Tuesday, "[W]e continue to call on Iran to immediately release the detained U.S. citizens. These Americans have remained in our thoughts throughout this negotiation, and we will continue to work for their safe and their swift return. And we urge Iran to bring our missing Americans home as well."
**Obama did not "tear" into no one.....h... (show quote)


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Jul 20, 2015 05:01:07   #
Anonymous Loc: Hamtucket jersey city
 
Loki wrote:
Technically speaking, it appears the law of averages caught up with the procreators down at your end of the gene pool.


The gene pool of the masses?

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Jul 20, 2015 08:50:10   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Anonymous wrote:
The gene pool of the masses?


The gene pool of the poor swimmers, aka "the shallow end."

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Jul 20, 2015 17:22:26   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Loki wrote:
The gene pool of the poor swimmers, aka "the shallow end."


Ok Mr gene pool. Where does one go to have a 90min IPA, draft, while the lady is browsing virtually the biggest book store in the USA?

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Jul 20, 2015 18:16:29   #
Anonymous Loc: Hamtucket jersey city
 
Loki wrote:
The gene pool of the poor swimmers, aka "the shallow end."


Shallow says the guy that hates liberals. :lol:

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Jul 20, 2015 19:01:25   #
KHH1
 
America Only wrote:
MIC...KEY....M...O...U..S...E!

Nappy! No white boy yet right? Hahahahahahahhohohohohoheheheheh;lalaa;a;a;;a;;alalalalalalllalalalallololo,ololHOE!


Poor uneducated white people cannot play the race card..maybe if you was a real white person and not the waste of the race.......you would not be viewed as trash by your own.....watching a black officer arrest one of your neo-nazi homies on tv...my how times have changed........

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Jul 20, 2015 19:05:43   #
Anonymous Loc: Hamtucket jersey city
 
KHH1 wrote:
Poor uneducated white people cannot play the race card..maybe if you was a real white person and not the waste of the race.......you would not be viewed as trash by your own.....watching a black officer arrest one of your neo-nazi homies on tv...my how times have changed........


Then they say any non racist white person is a "closet racist." No we've just actually met and gotten to know some black people. They like to pretend to know people they've never met.

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Jul 20, 2015 19:30:04   #
KHH1
 
He was actually assisting the supremacist...at a klan rally...one really decent officer....

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Jul 20, 2015 19:32:50   #
KHH1
 
Anonymous wrote:
Then they say any non racist white person is a "closet racist." No we've just actually met and gotten to know some black people. They like to pretend to know people they've never met.


I do not understand the premise of your statement......

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Jul 20, 2015 20:36:58   #
Anonymous Loc: Hamtucket jersey city
 
KHH1 wrote:
I do not understand the premise of your statement......


One of them called me a closet racist. Apparently im racist and didnt know it.

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Jul 20, 2015 23:23:04   #
KHH1
 
Anonymous wrote:
One of them called me a closet racist. Apparently im racist and didnt know it.


I get called one all the time...for speaking back to racists in a likewise manner...despite declaring openly that I detest people based on philosophy and not race......so I realized that I will be to some people what they want to view me as...no matter what I state to the contrary........

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