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Jul 6, 2015 15:15:41   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
Only Congress has the right to spend on infrastructure. The Fed only has the right to buy gummint-guaranteed assets with keystrokes, effectively repurchasing debt with keystrokes and reducing the debt and debt interest expense. What's not to like?

The Fed is a creature of Congress and has been changed by Congress and can again be changed by Congress. Congress is the key to changing the Fed. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO CHANGE THE FED!!!

The Fed is a necessary central bank, clearing checks and setting interest rates, very necessary functions. What exactly do you want to change about the Fed?
Only Congress has the right to spend on infrastruc... (show quote)


marv: I think most of us are Fed up with you!

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Jul 6, 2015 19:56:57   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Danielle wrote:
Anthony, hello. From what you have said above, I can only grasp that you are a person who is sincerely seeking the unity of people through common ground, and that, within itself, is a lofty and admirable goal. However, and especially now in this world and America, it's never going to work. If you are truly open-minded about finding root causes, I'm going to tell you why.

To really understand the root causes, you have first got to accept that human beings were created -- we did not evolve. (This is another topic, but just for a moment, even if you don't believe in a Creator, assume one. It's the only possible way you can understand what's happening in America and the world today, because politics as they manifest in our country and in world societies, stem from spiritual belief systems, and even more, from who we know to be God.)

Human beings were created as spiritual beings living within physical bodies. We have a mind, a will, and emotions (a soul) and we have a human spirit. The very essence of who and what we are is spiritual. The physical body is only a "home" we live in while we pass through this earthly life to beyond it.

When you look at what is happening here in America, in the Middle East, and all over the planet, you are looking at not only the battle of human beings -- their choices and their political and religious choices which are clashing against one another -- but, you are looking at a much greater battle between God's Kingdom and Satan's kingdom. (Again, if you don't believe in a Creator (?), I just ask you to bear with me and assume that there is a Creator.)

Here in this country, America was founded a democracy and a republic. Capitalism was a cornerstone.

Communism and socialism, however, are in direct conflict with and in opposition to democracy and capitalism.

From a Biblical standpoint, too, such foundations as democracy and capitalism are Biblically-based principals. (Again, I don't have hours to elaborate on this now, but God's people owned and sold land, had businesses, etc. The Lord, Himself, actually separated various areas of land and gave them to the various tribes of Israel.) If you look at Israel, today, for example, it is the only democratic country in the Middle East.

Here in America today, politically speaking, we have conservatives (patriotic, God-fearing Americans who believe in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Holy Bible, and the Declaration of Independence) and we have RINO or GOP Establishment Republicans who talk conservative talk to get the votes and then turn-coat and side with the progressive Liberals (the hardcore communist/fascist types).

We also have Democrats. Many of these people are law-abiding, family-based, Constitution believing people who are liberally deceived and sometimes completely brainwashed. A percentage of these everyday Democrats also believe in one Creator God.

Again, I repeat that a political stance of any individual is based upon their spiritual beliefs. If a person believes in no god; if a person believes that human beings are able to fix and repair it all without any Divine Intervention, then that person is a "god-player."

So, where is this all leading us? In a simple analysis, the majority of God's people in this country -- people who really know and call on the Name of the Lord God Almighty -- are true Jews and Christians. These people make up the ranks of conservatives and rank-and-file conservative Repubicans in America. They stand firm on the Constitution, individual property rights and free enterprise. They stand firm on the individual rights and freedoms assigned to all American citizens in and under the Constitution.

Those who don't know the Lord, deny God (are atheists), or who support communism, socialism, and big government takeover of everything in America, are not God's people simply because they deny Him and alienate themselves from Him. Many of these people, no matter how kind-hearted or foul-hearted they might be, are humanists. Unfortunately, all of these people are on Satan's team although many of them don't know it. In this group of people, you definitely have the progressive Liberals (hardcore communists/fascists) and any American who has been literally brainwashed through our public schools and university systems by the Secular Humanist religious agenda (atheism, amorality, evolution, and a one world socialist viewpoint).

Remember how the humanists touted "no religion in the public schools? Get rid of your Bibles?" Well, oops! The humanists forgot to tell us that Secular Humanism is a religion and it's stated to be a religion in the Humanist Manifestos I and II.

So now, today, we have more humanists in this country than we have Bible-believing conservative Christians. And, while those who know the Lord in a personal relationship would rather die than give ground to the progressive Liberal agenda which is utterly destroying America, this country, once predominantly Christian (both Democrats and Republicans) is now tipping the scale to the Left.

The Left, remember, is comprised of both hardcore progressive Liberals and ordinary Democrats. (Some of those ordinary Democrats believe in God as do a huge number of the Democrat-voting Catholics in the area where I live, and some of those Democrats are humanists.)

Okay. So now you've got a political spectrum of America. But, that isn't the whole picture. There's a "rest of the story":

Being invaded by illegals in America, who Americans are, for the most part, supporting to the detriment of all Americans, is a very bad thing, especially since a large percentage of these illegals are known drug cartel members, criminals, sex-offenders, ISIS, and the like. Obama stomped on the Constitution to bring these people here and keep them here against our immigration laws and Constitution, but that's only the beginning.

Under the present administration, the resident in the White House, his administration, and the UN have been moving in thousands of illegal imported Muslims and dumping them into all states of this country. The White House resident is also a huge supporter of Islam as well as terrorists in the Middle East with American tax-payer dollars. (If you don't believe me, please check out the facts.)

Islam and Judeo/Christianity do not cohabitate very happily. This goes back to Abraham, Ishmael, and Isaac in the Bible in the Book of Genesis. (Again, no time to tell the whole Biblical story.)

The god of Islam is Allah and Allah IS NOT the same God as the God of Israel, Isaac, and Jacob -- the One Creator God from which came Jesus Christ, the Savior of any and all who would accept Him and draw into a personal relationship with Him.

So besides the spiritual/political conflicts of democracy/capitalism against communism/socialism ...

and besides the spiritual/political conflicts of conservatives and rank-and-file Republicans against Liberal progressives/humanist Democrats AND Republican RINOS ...

we now have the battle of Islam against Judeo Christianity in this country. AND IN ALL OF THESE AREAS, YOU FIND THE BATTLE OF GOD'S KINGDOM AGAINST THE BATTLE OF SATAN'S KINGDOM. (And, by the way, you'll find all skin colors and races on both sides of the spiritual battle lines and in both camps!)

Yes, the battle lines are drawn in America, the Middle East, in Israel, and all over the globe. And the ROOT CAUSE of these battle lines IS SPIRITUAL, not political. It's God's people (God's Kingdom) against Satan's people (Satan's kingdom). And, believe me, you don't have to be an evil person at heart to belong to Satan's kingdom, although there are many who are. You simply have to reject or deny God and alienate yourself from any communication with him. You have to deny Jesus Christ as your Savior and Lord.

For this simple reason, America has tipped the scales from God's Kingdom predominanting in this country, to Satan's kingdom taking a very firm hold. America was once a very God-blessed nation. But, today, Obama says: "America is not a Christian nation." (The truth is that our White House resident would love to see the flag of Islam flying over the White House and he is taking every step he can to turn this country into a Muslim caliphate.)

(So here again, we have another spiritual battle. While communism and socialism are compatible with Islam to a point, when Islam takes over the schools, the courts, and the country, that point is a mute point. Shariah law will prevail.)

America will soon reap the curses of the evil and the atheism predominant now in this country. America will reap the curses of thousands of infants murdered weekly, many in pain-capable abortions; and America will reap the curses of the sodomy and the same-sex marriage agenda. In fact, we are reaping them now. America will also reap the curses of His majesty in the White House who is working so hard to destroy our allied relationship with Israel, for the Lord tells us in the Bible that those who bless Israel will be blessed, and those who curse Israel will be cursed. And, believe me, the Lord does not lie.

Muslims lie, however, if it advances their cause for Islam and to the glory of Allah. It's an old Muslim trick of war. So, on just about every count, Americans are being lied to by the Liberal media which has been heavily bought into by Soros and communist dollars, and Americans are being lied to by the White House and adminstration, many of whom are Muslim Brotherhood connected or Muslims themselves.

Can Americans find a unity and a common ground ever again in America? No, they cannot. They will not. No amount of "humanist" fixing or trying -- no matter how well-meant -- is going to fix and repair all of the separations and divisions in this country now, a huge number of those divisions being created within themselves through the communist/fascist ploys of "politically correct" agendas which elevate some social groups above the Constitution while deliberately stomping on the Constitutional rights of conservatives, true Jews, and Christians.

The true objectives of the hardcore progressive Left (the globalists, fascists, communists, and big money bankers) are to silence the voices of conservatives, Christians and true Jews and to throw us into prison, fine us, whatever, for our supposed hate crimes. It's not "politically correct" so you'll pay for it we're all being told. Yet the right to free speech and religion are Constitutional rights of all Americans, not just some select groups as in "the special bill of gay rights."

Within themselves, these "politically correct" agendas are fueling divisions, hatred, anger, and even violence in this country. That, of course, is the globalists' objective.

"United we stand; divided we fall." When Americans become "out of control" it's time to put the government into full control, right? A stroke of the executive pen and here comes Martial law upon all Americans. A sudden (and fore-known by the government) crash of the economy, and Americans will be in utter confusion, panic, and chaos. Another excuse for Martial Law.

There are already thousands of UN tanks sitting in waiting all over this country. UN tanks, equipment, and FEMA concentration camps which should not be in America. There are already NATO and foreign troops poised and ready for the takeover. And, even our own military is being prepared through training exercises such as Jade Helm.

Thankfully, God has the Master Plan, and all of this was Biblically prophesied thousands of years ago. The prophecies are unwinding at a rapid rate now and they're accurate and on target. All of these things must come to pass before the Lord returns ...in America, the Middle East, in Israel, and all over the planet.

America -- the great mystery Babylon -- is now unveiling herself. And she is fast becoming exactly what the Bible prophesied she would be. Due to her godlessness and evil, in the years ahead of us, this country will burn.

No amount of human fixing is going to fix the problem of SPIRITUAL DIVISIONS. No amount of human trying is going to unite what was destined to be by God Almighty Himself.

I can only suggest that all Americans pick and choose their spiritual positions very, very carefully. We've even got large Christian churches in this country trying to be politically correct and take in the Muslims under the guise that both Christians and Muslims worship the same God. No, they do not. Ministering to and praying for Muslims is one thing. Claiming to worship the same god that they do is a totally different story.

What side of the battle lines are you on -- that is truly the only legitimate question in these Latter Days. For no matter what is happening in this country right now or in the immediate future, as it was in the beginning, it will be in the end: God's Kingdom WILL PREVAIL.

The ROOT CAUSE is spiritual. The solution is in GOD'S HANDS ONLY.
Anthony, hello. From what you have said above, I ... (show quote)




There are no flaws (none), in your explanation and assessment of mankind (America's) present Condition as well as America's future. Excellent explanation! !!!

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Jul 6, 2015 20:10:08   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Marvin; Try to get this through your head.
Our government should not be borrowing money from a private corporation (The FED).
That is the trap that got the USA in this mess.
An $18 Trillion unpayable "debt".
It should be wiped off the books.
After all this is a Jubilee year.



MarvinSussman wrote:
Only Congress has the right to spend on infrastructure. The Fed only has the right to buy gummint-guaranteed assets with keystrokes, effectively repurchasing debt with keystrokes and reducing the debt and debt interest expense. What's not to like?

The Fed is a creature of Congress and has been changed by Congress and can again be changed by Congress. Congress is the key to changing the Fed. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO CHANGE THE FED!!!

The Fed is a necessary central bank, clearing checks and setting interest rates, very necessary functions. What exactly do you want to change about the Fed?
Only Congress has the right to spend on infrastruc... (show quote)

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Jul 6, 2015 20:23:09   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Danielle; I agree with most of what you say about Communism and Fascism. We are in a spiritual battle as well as a physical Battle. All atheists do not have a bad spirit, though they do not realize there is a spirit involved.

Ephesians Ch 6:10 to 6:18 > especially 6:12 - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of the world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

IMO Danielle; This is where you are off base. You seem to be unaware that Political Zionism got OB elected. You seem to be unaware that Political Zionism and its NWO created the State of Israel. Political Zionists, non Hebrews, run Israel and it is not a "Democracy".
IMO - there is real spiritual wickedness running that country.

The anti-Christ is the Polar opposite of Christ. That is his purpose and mission. Many are being deceived, because they have not figured who the great deceiver is, and who he uses. Luciferians / Illuminati plan on winning the war against God/Yahweh. They do not believe they will be answerable to Yahweh. They believe that their wickedness will go unpunished.
This is the warning to God's servant people: Revelation 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Matthew 7:18 A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

As long as The Internationalist banking cabal have a grip on America,politically and financially, there will be no reversal of what is going on in America, and the world.




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Danielle; I agree with most of what you say about ... (show quote)




Dn 2:20-22 scriptural obama is in power, because God places and removes kings/rulers or President's, God's plan (prophecy) never fails. I don't believe God is stacking the deck against america in order that his prophecies will be fulfilled, rather allowing the wickedness of man to make their choices (allows) thus obama is in office by God's choosing.

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Jul 6, 2015 22:07:25   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
There are no flaws (none), in your explanation and assessment of mankind (America's) present Condition as well as America's future. Excellent explanation! !!!


The fatalist-theory. We've been hearing it for hundreds of years. Yes, I agree a cataclysm is coming, but there are reality-based solutions and ways to tackle these problems.The question is, how will we handle it? Are we all supposed to drop to our knees and wait to be saved? Where's the personal responsibility in that?
The root-causes of our multiple crises are many things- spiritual, sociological, psychological, economical...And no one is implying that all can be hunky - dory and love and roses anytime soon. But we can do better.
I'm not an atheist, but nor am I a fanatic. I'm not saying Danielle or you are, but there are some contradictions to what you espouse. Just how many gods do you believe exist? If your answer is "one", then wouldn't that mean all religions are worshipping the same god in different ways?
You can insist all you like that the reason the world is in such a state is because everyone doesn't think or worship like you do. To me thats hypocritical arrogance at its worst. A more realistic take is that we've allowed the power - mad and sociopathic to lord over us. We've allowed society to be dictated by our baser instincts.This has happened again and again all through history, and empires burn and civilizations fall because we still have not learned our lesson. Not very Christ-like. Jesus was about spreading as much peace, love and prosperity as humanly possible in the face of oppression and insurmountable odds.To have a problem with that is rather anti-Christian.
The spiritual crisis that has been raging since the dawn of humankind is essentially about greed vs good.

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Jul 7, 2015 00:04:06   #
MarvinSussman
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
marv: I think most of us are Fed up with you!


I note for the record that you did not (because you can not) dispute any statement I made. Your only response is to spit, like a kindergartner.

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Jul 7, 2015 00:28:43   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
I note for the record that you did not (because you can not) dispute any statement I made. Your only response is to spit, like a kindergartner.


Hey Marvin; You Jackass.
Shut your pie hole!
Who wrote the "law"that gave the US a Zionist/ Marxist central bank? The Federal Reserve Act?
The European Banksters did on Jekyll Island, Georgia.
Who ignored Article I; Section 8 of the Constitution?

How you attempt to cover for these parasites, is beyond me.

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Jul 7, 2015 01:27:25   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
I note for the record that you did not (because you can not) dispute any statement I made. Your only response is to spit, like a kindergartner.


marv: For someone who claims he is educated....your very elementary!!!!!!!

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Jul 7, 2015 01:48:36   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
[quot e= J Anthony]The fatali st-theory. We've been hea ring it fo r hund reds of year s. Yes, I agree a cat.aclysm is coming, but there are reality-based solutions and ways to tack onle these problems.The question is, how will we handle it? Are we all supposed to drop to our knees and wait to be saved? Where's the personal responsibility in that?
The root-causes of our multiple crises are many things- spiritual, sociological, psychological. And no one is implying that all can be hunky - dory and love and roses anytime soon. But we can do better.
I'm not an atheist, but nor am I a fanatic. I'm not saying Danielle or you are, but there are some contradictions to what you espouse. Just how many gods do you believe exist?
You can insist all you like that the reason the world is in such a state is because everyone doesn't think or worship like you do. A more realistic take is that we've allowed the power - mad and sociopathic to lord over us. We've allowed society to be dictated by our baser instincts. Not very Christ-like. Jesus was about spreading as much peace, love and prosperity as humanly possible in the face of oppression and insurmountable odds.To have a problem with that is rather anti-Christian.[/quote]


First I believe in one God, the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. Second, I believe we are to watch for the signs as Jesus instructed, while fully doing our very best for not only today but tomorrow as well.
What is undeniable is fulfilled prophecies, and not just a few general interpretations, but specific prophecies of the end of the church age. 3500 year old prophecies fulfilled or in the process of fulfilling in our generation. Clearly only the mentally ill would stop seeking the best for our nation, but at the same time reality rears her ugly head. Just reported by the BLS, 4th month of job losses, while 375,000 ended unemployment without finding employment. Reports of failing small businesses increasing, while new business start ups continue decreasing, a historic 7 year trend. It's not the 18 trillion in debt that bothers me, it is our government's and our banks unfunded liabilities that have combined, topped 200 trillion dollars...wow, two hundred trillion dollars.
Europe two weeks ago officially stated they have reentered into a recession, and heading far deeper than their last (WHICH never really ended). Greece voted NO on further austerity, which means no bail out and removing themselves from the European union, which will happen quickly and that action alone will put the EU in a full spiral. Which means what for American manufacturing? The (recent last few months) high dollar value against world currencies has severely slowed new orders which is building inventories, which will starve summer quarter reports netting huge job losses and a nervous stock market. The fact that America had been on a decline for over a decade and heading for a sharp decline as we have seen the last two quarters proving where we are headed, towards collapse. Russia, China, India, the UK and a few dozen smaller countries all dropping the petro dollar (u.s. world currency) and dumping the Fed's T-bills like a bad infection. .....which means what to the very near future of the value of the American dollar?
The vast of the Republican and democrat party have and are voting for anti American agendas repeatedly, which favor the elite, largest banks, while destroying jobs, the middle class, and continue adding restrictions.
What efforts by the Democrat's or republicans are you aware of to add jobs other than government jobs the last 7 years? It's been 7 years and, all both parties have accomplished, has nothing to do with economic recovery, why? Why did obama direct over 3.5 trillion in QE to Wallstreet instead of mainstreet?

Conservatives are often accused of wanting the economy to fail by the liberals for the reasons of disputing reported economic data, claiming our leaders agenda is damaging the economy and as a result have turned a corner beyond repair. Very much the opposite is true, rather hearts are grieved and hopes of revealing the true state of the union, and the deceptions of the occupant of the Oval Office will Awake a sleeping portion of the American population to reconize how close the hour of collapse actually is and result in a call to action.
The majority of Americans have no idea how the ecomomy work's, and continue to support in lock step policies proven to fail. And most recently a decaying moral population, cheerleading the very things that have caused nations to fall historically.

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Jul 7, 2015 02:05:12   #
MarvinSussman
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Hey Marvin; You Jackass.
Shut your pie hole!
Who wrote the "law"that gave the US a Zionist/ Marxist central bank? The Federal Reserve Act?
The European Banksters did on Jekyll Island, Georgia.
Who ignored Article I; Section 8 of the Constitution?

How you attempt to cover for these parasites, is beyond me.


You have yet to state a single act of the Fed that's criminal or even problematic. All you have is prejudice, the repetition of BS you heard somewhere. You are a fact-free ignoramus.

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Jul 7, 2015 02:26:03   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
You have yet to state a single act of the Fed that's criminal or even problematic. All you have is prejudice, the repetition of BS you heard somewhere. You are a fact-free ignoramus.


http://www.dailygrail.com/blogs/fahim-knight/2010/1/federal-reserve-criminal-cartel-which-world-silent-about

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Jul 7, 2015 02:30:21   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
You have yet to state a single act of the Fed that's criminal or even problematic. All you have is prejudice, the repetition of BS you heard somewhere. You are a fact-free ignoramus.



This will make you sick....

http://pubrecord.org/nation/8622/pentagon-papers-wall-street/?mid=5354

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Jul 7, 2015 02:42:50   #
MarvinSussman
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
http://www.dailygrail.com/blogs/fahim-knight/2010/1/federal-reserve-criminal-cartel-which-world-silent-about


Pure NWO crap. Paranoid ravings. Farrakhan indeed!

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Jul 7, 2015 02:47:36   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
Pure NWO crap. Paranoid ravings. Farrakhan indeed!


http://pubrecord.org/nation/8622/pentagon-papers-wall-street/?mid=5354

Your delusional in the face of evidence. .

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Jul 7, 2015 02:49:13   #
MarvinSussman
 
jack sequim wa wrote:


Yes, the Fed moved money around to guarantee liquidity everywhere during the Bush Meltdown. It was all legal and every cent was accounted for. And if they lost a trillion, so what. It could have been much worse.

The Bush Meltdown was the fault of Congress, which refuses to regulate banks or Wall Street The Fed cannot regulate liar loans.

You are aiming at the wrong target.

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