Am I stupid for thinking this man bad his 1st Amendment rights abridged? Ok, some of you will say I am stupid for thinking that but I don't think those two policemen have any right to...

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Ok, some of you will say I am stupid for thinking that but I don't think those two policemen have any right to threaten him and then take his sign. I was really surprised to hear that the Secret Service wanted to search his house. This is not the world I have lived my first 75 years in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3DR5tkjeAU

UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA

They were likely just doing their jobs. Be smart about how you express your Constitutional Rights and the lesson learned is that if you are challenged about what you express, be sure to cooperate because you never know what is prompting them to do their job - it could be a complaint from an advisory.

oldroy wrote:

Ok, some of you will say I am stupid for thinking that but I don't think those two policemen have any right to threaten him and then take his sign. I was really surprised to hear that the Secret Service wanted to search his house. This is not the world I have lived my first 75 years in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3DR5tkjeAU

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

UncleJesse wrote:

They were likely just doing their jobs. Be smart about how you express your Constitutional Rights and the lesson learned is that if you are challenged about what you express, be sure to cooperate because you never know what is prompting them to do their job - it could be a complaint from an advisory.

No single policeman or two of them has a right to take away a man's right to express himself. They violated the Constitution by violating his rights as a citizen.

UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA

Right, I agree. Unless they had a subpoena that it was part of evidence in an investigation. But then, the simple answer is why didn't he just make another sign? Look, they probably got a call from a passerby or an advisory of him and they were obligated to investigate it. No one barred him from making another sign. Watch how you express yourself - it could end up causing you a lot of legal grief.

oldroy wrote:

No single policeman or two of them has a right to take away a man's right to express himself. They violated the Constitution by violating his rights as a citizen.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

UncleJesse wrote:

They were likely just doing their jobs. Be smart about how you express your Constitutional Rights and the lesson learned is that if you are challenged about what you express, be sure to cooperate because you never know what is prompting them to do their job - it could be a complaint from an advisory.

Uncle Jesse, I agree. Their are plenty of criminals that use their constitutional rights (i.e. search and seizure). Getting in a Quixotic argument with the police is a waste of time. How 'bout posting a sign and walking away from it, instead?

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

oldroy wrote:

No single policeman or two of them has a right to take away a man's right to express himself. They violated the Constitution by violating his rights as a citizen.

Hmmm, it seems that as long as Oldroy isn't bothered it'll be ok. Our Constitutional Rights are trampled every day, and this is an example of a non-productive fight. I have the same issues with moving violations. In fact, I was literally pulled over in front of a crack house and handed a ticket once. I asked the Policeman about the house and he didn't seem too interested in a real crime. I do everything in my power every day to make sure the police in my hometown won't have a job any more, since they don't seem to understand Constitutional Rights or where their paycheck comes from.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

I did a search on this and it seems this is done often. After reading several of the articles, most refered to social media with life threats against a standing president. As much as I disagree with Obama I think they have every right to at least look in to it. They did with Clinton and both Bush's.

In the heat of the moment people need to be careful with their threats of bodily harm.

oldroy wrote:

Ok, some of you will say I am stupid for thinking that but I don't think those two policemen have any right to threaten him and then take his sign. I was really surprised to hear that the Secret Service wanted to search his house. This is not the world I have lived my first 75 years in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3DR5tkjeAU

Homestead

oldroy wrote:

Ok, some of you will say I am stupid for thinking that but I don't think those two policemen have any right to threaten him and then take his sign. I was really surprised to hear that the Secret Service wanted to search his house. This is not the world I have lived my first 75 years in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3DR5tkjeAU

Yeah, he did have his first amendment right violated, never mind the illegal search and seizer and still, he supports Obama 100%.

This guy should listen to this video, particularly around the 7 minute mark, Yuri Bezmenov, is talking about him.

Yuri Bezmenov (former kgb) Psychological Warfare Subversion & Control of Western Society - Complete
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZnkULuWFDg

JerryMac

If you and everyone else do not stand up for your rights at every opportunity they will be taken away slowly but surely. This mans rights were violated and everyone of us should be sending off letters in protest to this action. But instead as seen by some here, "ain't no big thang."
Really? Just doing their jobs? Isn't a part of their job protecting the rights of citizens? Isn't a part of their oath to protect and defend the constitution against all enemies? And aren't they the,selves the enemy when they violate some ones constitutionally protected rights?

Yes a lot of times it is a useless gesture. I stood around for an hour or more once preaching to to cops about my constitutionally protected rights. I had three squad cars and five cops circled around my vehicle with my kids inside telling them how they were wrong.

Don't ever just shrug it off. If that is all it is worth to you then you deserve to loose your freedom.

cold iron Loc: White House

UncleJesse wrote:

They were likely just doing their jobs. Be smart about how you express your Constitutional Rights and the lesson learned is that if you are challenged about what you express, be sure to cooperate because you never know what is prompting them to do their job - it could be a complaint from an advisory.

Hummm, just doing there jobs! The Nazi said that after the 2nd WWII , "we where just doing our jobs sticking the JEWS in the gas chamber". Well, once America was a country of laws, we had, I say had a constitution giving us rights to not be searched with out a warrant. No so much any more.

JerryMac

cold iron wrote:

Well, once America was a country of laws, we had, I say had a constitution giving us rights to not be searched with out a warrant. No so much any more.

The constitution didn't give us any rights, it only protects our rights..... Suppose to protect our rights.

UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA

Way off here. There's always some one in the crowd yelling fascism, communism, socialism, totalitarianism, etc. It is quite ridiculous but that is what society has become...protecting obscenity and criminal loop holes for a DA's fear of having a constitutional law suit on the record. Just make another sign and save the posts to youtube until the time the gestapo censors your cultural activities.

cold iron wrote:

Hummm, just doing there jobs! The Nazi said that after the 2nd WWII , "we where just doing our jobs sticking the JEWS in the gas chamber". Well, once America was a country of laws, we had, I say had a constitution giving us rights to not be searched with out a warrant. No so much any more.

cold iron Loc: White House

JerryMac wrote:

The constitution didn't give us any rights, it only protects our rights..... Suppose to protect our rights.

semantics

JerryMac

cold iron wrote:

semantics

I will correct it every time I see it. No one, nothing, gives anyone freedom or rights. We are born with it. We allow people to take away our rights and freedoms. And then we have to fight to get them back. But they are not ever given to us.

genelong4 Loc: High Point, NC

JerryMac is absolutely right. According to the founders of this country, the rights are God given and the Constitution
just protects our rights.