eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Yep!
They be here:-)
" A few people, and very few, but a few, are trolls who are here to create dissension, to mock anyone who believes in the truth, and in democracy, and they use whatever attack they can use hoping to discourage people, and silence them. Sad, but that is really happening. What's really sad is, these people are going to win, at least in the short run. Of course, they don't realize that once the powers that be are done with them, they too will be discarded, but that is their fate. It's just like the Mafia. They hire someone to kill someone, then they kill the hit man. This is really going on.


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J Anthony Loc: Connecticut

You're a small mind, and you are not the ultimate authority on anything.
If you are incapable of transcending the narrow parameters of "my way or the highway", that's your problem. Then you're as hypocritical as you accuse others of being. There's good and bad in every rigid ideology once put into practice. If you're so adverse to thinking outside-the-box, then you're a hindrance as well. You have me all wrong with those knee-jerk assumptions of yours.
I've probably paid better attention to history than you, as I understand our salvation always lies in social and psychological evolution. You sound like a neanderthal to me, if that's really your attitude. And I'm as flawed as anybody. Good luck with that shite. No one ever said things would be easy. Sounds like you're ready to give up the ghost.

JW

Let's see, I am a small mind, it's my way or the hiway, I'm hypocritical, a hindrance, a Neanderthal, and I make knee jerk assumptions??? I'll have to get back to you. I need to try to absorb that.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

You may consider the gap between the left ( deep-seated communism/socialism), and conservatives. Even in the event considering the moderate left vs moderate right, the chasm is beyond reaching middle ground.
I would disagree that there is both good and bad in all ideals/policies as so many are just bad, with no wiggle room for comprises.
Social policies are flat out zero comprise, economic are 80%+ zero compromise, and anything close to a compromised agreement would be of no effect.
Government and international issues are as far apart as east is from the west.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Communism works like this; Two ateps forward, one step back. We didn't end up with the 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto over night.
Something to think about; and then share. Help defend what America has left.
The 10 PLANKS stated in the Communist Manifesto and some of their American counterparts are...
1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...).
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.
6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.
Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture… Thus read "controlled or subsidized" rather than "owned"… This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.
The PTB - Just added more control of the internet.
8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.
Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" . These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like "majority rules", and "pay your fair share". WHERE are the words "fair share" in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is "fair share" even suggested !! The philosophical concept of "fair share" comes from the Communist maxim, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. ... America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC ... Teaching ourselves and others how to "fish" to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be "needy"... Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet.
Do changing words, change the end result? ... By using different words, is it all of a sudden OK to ignore or violate the provisions or intent of the Constitution of the united States of America?????
The people (politicians) who believe in the SOCIALISTIC and COMMUNISTIC concepts, especially those who pass more and more laws implementing these slavery ideas, are traitors to their oath of office and to the Constitution of the united States of America... KNOW YOUR
None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free....
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J Anthony Loc: Connecticut

I've considered the gaps, deep and wide as they are, and we can go one of two ways here: it gets worse and we regress into chaos and civil war before society comes to it's senses, or we willingly change our thought processes and cooperate for a better world before we sink ever-lower This is not happy-talk, it's more or less a mathematical certainty.
I'm sure you know history as good as if not better than myself. Is it inevitable that things must always get as bad as they could before they get better? Have we learned nothing?
Those who make the mistake of assuming I'm some softhead hippy show only the limitations of their own thought-processes. It is frustrating that so few are capable of seeing the potential and possibility we hold in our hands. That does not mean great pain and sacrifice will not always be involved in that psychological and societal growth. But for Christs sake man, we can and should be doing better than this.
That's why, as with JW, I get a little ticked. I don't get the naysayers, "we can't, we can't, we can't!" Well, why the hell not? I believe unity is not only possible but necessary, yet it cannot be forced. Are we so lacking in will and imagination?

JW

Where have I said anything about can or can't? If you want to fix anything, you really need to understand what is in play. You can't begin to understand if you won't even look.

Fool is another invective you hurled in my direction... And all that in only two posts. I suggest that you learn to think before you turn your fingers loose on your keyboard...at least know what you are commenting on before you turn those digits loose.

J Anthony Loc: Connecticut

I was responding to your ludicrous assumptions. So I got a little defensive,so sue me. Maybe you should follow your own advice before you assume to know where someone is coming from.
I know very well "what is in play", which is why I seek to bypass the partisan tit-for-tat you seem to enjoy engaging in, which to me is an obstacle that needs to be overcome. Is that possible for you to comprehend?

JW

What ludicrous assumptions?

I have no idea where you are coming from but I can recognize verbal pablum and invective when I see them. As far as knowing what is in play, nothing you wrote suggests you have the first clue.

There is no tit-for-tat here. There is an attempt to dispell lies and misinformation...until some juvenile ego drops in to stick out its tongue.

ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa

JW: Your dealing with a useful idiot of the left!

JW

I don't doubt that. His behavior comes across too familiarly. I'm guessing he is a sock. I've always thought the use of sock puppets was the mark of a coward. I just wish he could be straight up about it but I suppose, we all do what we can with what we have to work with.

Danielle Loc: Las Cruces, NM

Boy, have you got that right. No wonder the progressives (communists/socialists) are taking over this country! With this kind of mentality, how could they lose? And, after all, isn't that where they were going all along -- the ultimate goal -- when they indoctrinated and brainwashed several generations of Americans in our public schools and universities?

For those who really don't understand the real definition of the communist (progressive) movement they are supporting -- the globalist movement which is going to cost all Americans (including those of you who support it) all of the Constitutional rights and liberties you are still enjoying to some degree in this country -- let me give you a couple of definitions taken from an old dictionary that I had in college. Of course, at that time, we never dreamed that communism would be taking over our country.

The definition of communism: "1 a: a theroy advocating elimination of private property b: a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed [ha! ha!] 2 a: a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that is the official ideology of the U.S.S.R. b: a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production with the professed aim of establishing a stateless society ..."

The definition of a communist is "an adherent or advocate of communism ... a member of a communist party or movement ... one held to engage in left-wing, subersive, or revolutionary activities"

Definitions taken from Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, copyright, 1973.

For those of you who have been thoroughly indoctrinated and brainwashed by the secular humanist religion (atheism, amorality, evolution, and a one world socialist viewpoint) in our public schools and universities, let me say this loud and clear:

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO FREEDOM OF INDIVIDUAL EXPRESSION -- NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS -- IN A TOTALITARIAN, COMMUNIST, OR SOCIALIST COUNTRY, OR A COUNTRY UNDER ISLAMIC SHARIAH LAW.

You'll think boring. No more rights to think or do what you like. No more go where you want or live where you want. No more freedom of self-expression. No more "politically correct" activists or women's Lib crap. You'll do it the government's way, or you'll pay the ultimate penalty: specified punishments, imprisonment or death.

In a communist society, everybody's poor but the government and the filthy rich. And, the government is in ultimate control over the people.

Have you been envisioning this wonderful eutopia of happy people? Everybody singing Kumbayah, doing the Mexican hat dance, and saying the Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic?

Better get over it. Here is the goal and the aim of the UN/New World Order Globalist Government with His Highness, Dictator Obama in control:

"Welcome to the United Socialist/Communist states of America, where we art pleased to "help" (control) you from cradle to grave. You are free to do as we tell you. Have a nice day."

As I've been saying all along:
Big chief in White House speaks with forked tongue. Chief's little Indians follow with no eyes, hear with plugged ears, and paint war paint on faces screaming 'racist, racist, racist!

Once the liberally brainwashed are living under the communist state they supported into being, they might just wish that they had not crucified the patriotic, Christian, and flag-waving Americans that gave them the country they once enjoyed living in. Just food for thought.

"Hope and change" equals "Hoax and chains."

Danielle Loc: Las Cruces, NM

I keep repeating it myself. Over and over again. Once the government is through using them to get the ultimate control they want, all of the women's Libbies, the homosexuals, the race-baiters and race-mongers and the rest of those who so love to promote their "politically correct" agendas, will get thrown under the bus with the conservatives, the true Jews, the Christians, and all of the complacent and asleep at the wheel Americans. The government is just USING them, but they're too brainwashed and blinded to know it or see it.

J Anthony Loc: Connecticut

J Anthony Loc: Connecticut

Aah, more hypocrisy and projection, how typical of the mentally-stumped!
Tell you what- present a factual argument about something- the economy, heakthcare, education, anything- and I'll take you to the cleaners.
Good luck, Mr Tit-for-Tat