Explain how the Third Reich, fighting a war in Europe, Asia and Africa, could spare the personnel and fuel required to gas 6 million Jews. Germany had a manpower and fuel shortage, especially after the allied forces bombed the Ploesti oil refineries which supplied much of Germany's gasoline and oil.
Germany was so short on manpower they were forced to use children as soldiers. Since Jews were about the only labor available to produce Germany's weapons and military supplies, why would Germany kill them?
It makes sense that those Jews who died did so from disease and starvation after the allies destroyed Germany's supply lines to the concentration camps.

I appreciate that. Thanks.

One of my self-chosen and professor approved projects in my under-grad history course (an elective) and the subject of my final term paper was a study of the Third Reich. Of course, my research on the subject turned up far more than I could possibly fit in a term paper, so the theme of my paper was focused on der Fuehrer himself with some references and footnotes on the "Final Solution". This effort was enough to compel me to continue studying Hitler and his regime long after I graduated. I wanted to see if I could understand the reasons that an entire nation could be driven insane. I graduated with a Master's in 1992 and have been at it off and on ever since.

I can't even begin to list the books and other sources that I have read and researched on the subject. It boggles the mind to know that there are human beings out there who deny that the Holocaust ever took place. There are a lot of Red herrings in Holocaust denial.

The Holocaust denial movement is world wide and is generally associated with four groups

* white supremacists and neo-Nazis.
* Pro-Palestinian activists and Islamic militants.
* Anti-Semites in general.
* General conspiracy theorists, iconoclasts, or curmudgeons who don't necessarily pursue such denialism based on any political motives.

Among them are such infamous and influential characters as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, David Duke, and George Lincoln Rockwell. It goes without saying that payne1000 here has chosen a truly dark path to follow.

Hey that was beautiful.I am a structural concrete form carpenter forman and in my career I have done steel beam construction enough to half assed keep up with you. If I may I think what your saying is. A floor or floors support structure failed,as the shock load slam down on the ones below, because of the shock loads from the weight above, witch there is only so much you can do about(3 hour stand time after compromised)crushed each floor below speeding up as it came down. With the weights we are talking about how fast it came down would be dependent on the amount of floors above and the weight of each floor above the
impact. At the most basic form of explanation. It was like how to a certain weight a aluminum can will let you slowly stand on it and not ccollapse.But lift your foot and stomp down it can easily be crushed. Above the planes impact is like your foot. When the planes hit it compromised a floor or floors and it dropped like your foot on a aluminum can. Because of the damage at impact the heat WAS enough to start the fall at a shorter than normal time because of the speed the heat was dispersed. That explains the explosions the people heard slow at first and increasing to a rumble the further down the collapse got. The explosions where the individual floors collapsing on each other. Now as long as the debris backs up what you say. All that would show up in the debris. One thing that looked suspicious was how the planes hit to the side of center. Not compromising the structure perfectly even. I would have thought from the impact up would have fallen to the side of the most damage. I understand after a certain speed and weight a near vertical fall would have happened. But at the start wouldn't you see a more pronounced fall in the direction of impact. Also as the floors above fell making contact with the floor below wouldn't a huge amount of material be ground off between the two structures. Further exaggerating the affect of a off center impact point. Also slowing the rate of collapse considerably because of lost material weight and again exaggerating even more a collapse to the side of impact. In the egg crate design you mentioned that's what I would have expected to see. You know kinda like that can you don't step down on perfectly centered. I think it was tower two that the plane was horribly off center. I am just a carpenter so I'm probably wrong. Again signs of that would show up in the debris.

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Thank you, kind and generous lady! What rewards you don't receive on Earth, I feel very confident you'll receive in Heaven! I'm sure, too, that the shoes and purse that you'll receive up there will be of a much finer quality than anything you could get here, on Earth. :thumbup:

Plus, this 'Payne in the azz1000' is a real trip; all of it bad, though. I'd prefer to hope that "his/hers/its" beliefs came from using some bad dope. I would've hoped that, by now, Payne and his handlers would've learned that those chemicals will mess up your mind; that one needs to be careful what is in the Kool Aide they're drinking, too.

It's already proven that Payne can't compose a rational thought. That's why he has to post propaganda developed by others. Plus, his last original thought died of loneliness years ago.

It's apparent to see, he does struggle mentally and emotionally. Instead of taking ownership of his life and developing a plan that can get him out of the financial, mental and emotional poverty he's currently in, he's choosing to wallow in self-pity and use Jews as the scapegoat and whipping boy for all of his failures and transgressions. Blaming someone else for your own failures is a hallmark characteristic of someone who is mentally and emotionally challenged. I sincerely pray that Payne can get the psychological help he desperately needs. Otherwise, he's a walking time-bomb; a threat to society and himself. I would ask that he go and talk to a Christian counselor; but, as he's already claimed himself an atheist, I don't think my recommendation, alone, would be the impetus for him to go to one. That would require some "divine intervention."

It's people, like Payne, that can easily become another Roof. Instead of going after African-Amercans in a Black church, I think Payne would go after Jewish children at a Jewish day care center. Payne doesn't strike me as having the balls to try to exhibit his frustrations by striking at a location where there is even a remote chance of someone possibly fighting back. No, Payne would be the quite type who plays out his well thought out scenario by suddenly becoming a bully, brutalizing those who can't fight back. That way, there's very little chance that someone can mess up his plan to make a statement.

By posting here, on the OPP, he's simply testing the waters, looking to see if he can garner any support for his ideology and maybe even pick-up an equally dim-witted accomplice. That's why he's been asking for responses to his outrageous comments. He wants to know who's for him and who's against him. Time will tell if I'm right or wrong.