Race Fear Monger...
Jul 1, 2015 13:37:31 #
Don G. Dinsdale
Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
NEWS FROM THE HILL
Obama Sharpens His Message On Race
By Mike Lillis - July 1, 2015
President Obama is taking a more aggressive approach to the issue of race, repeatedly offering sharp commentary as he confronts Americas oldest, deepest divide.
Black lawmakers, Obamas strongest allies on Capitol Hill, have cheered the presidents new found willingness to address race head-on.
But they also see a nation thats still plagued by inequality, discrimination and, in some cases, overt racism first black president or none.
In terms of people feeling much better in regards to race no, thats not happened, and I dont know any thoughtful people who think it has, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.), former head of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC), said by phone. Whether he addresses the issues or not is not going to change the reality of the era.
Obama has repeatedly been confronted by the nations racial divide in his second term, but never so tragically as on June 17, when nine African-Americans were killed in a historic black church in South Carolina, allegedly by a white gunman who wanted to start a race war.
The violence provoked some of Obamas sharpest commentary as he delivered a eulogy on Friday for South Carolina state Sen. Clementa Pinckney, a friend of the presidents who was among the victims.
The presidents comments highlighted how his 2008 message of racial reconciliation has changed in the final stretch of his tenure in the Oval Office.
Maybe we now realize the way racial bias can infect us even when we dont realize it, so that were guarding against not just racial slurs but were also guarding against the subtle impulse to call Johnny back for a job interview but not Jamal, said Obama.
Cleaver emphasized that Obama has made strides in promoting African-Americans to positions of power in his administration, including Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson and Attorney General Loretta Lynch, the first black woman to hold the post. But the post-racial era many envisioned with Obamas ascent, he said, simply hasnt materialized.
Clearly we have seen advancements. Hes produced a number of firsts, Cleaver said. [But] is there a higher level of racial harmony? I dont think there has been. The evidence is too readily available.
Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) delivered a similar message, lamenting the cancer of entrenched racism that was thrust into the national spotlight following the Charleston church killings. The alleged shooter had reportedly posted online photos of himself waving the Confederate flag, as well as a manifesto with racist sentiments.
I consider this the most wonderful country in the entire world that has done such spectacular things to have people of color go from enslavement to the presidency, but this ... doesnt mean that we dont have a cancer that if we dont take care of it can actually disable us, Rangel said this week in an interview with radio host Rita Cosby.
Racial tensions, he said, have grown in the United States.
Such verdicts would certainly come as a disappointment to a president whose star launched on a keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, where he downplayed racial divisions in the name of national unity.
Theres not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; theres the United States of America, Obama, then an Illinois state senator, said at the time.
But time and again, events have pressured Obama to address what many see as a different reality. The fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin by a self-appointed neighborhood watchman in 2012, and the more recent police killings of unarmed black men in Baltimore, Long Island, N.Y., and Ferguson, Mo., have pushed the president to talk more openly about what it means to be black in America.
In December, Obama said he didnt expect his presidency to usher in a post-racial era.
If you look at the history of race in America, its usually not a single moment when suddenly everything gets solved, he told Fusion TV. Its a process.
A recent Gallup poll found that 13 percent of black respondents rank race relations among the nations top problems, a jump from 5 percent just a year earlier. By contrast, 4 percent of whites feel the same way, up from 1 percent in 2014.
Race is a tricky issue for the nations first black president, caught between navigating the political realities of a hyperpartisan Washington where Republicans control Congress and managing the expectations of African-Americans including many on Capitol Hill who have urged him to do more to further the status of blacks in society.
Rep. G.K. Butterfield (D-N.C.), the current head of the CBC, has repeatedly warned that black America is in a state of emergency, pointing to statistics that show African-Americans suffer disproportionately when it comes to employment, wealth, incarceration rates and a host of other measures.
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas), another prominent CBC member, put the blame squarely on the shoulders of Republicans for blocking Obamas legislative agenda, including efforts to hike the minimum wage, overhaul the criminal justice system and update the Voting Rights Act.
Hes had a social justice agenda, but you need to have a willing Congress, Jackson Lee said in a phone interview. I still have great hope for a post-racial society. It is not now.
On the policy front, Obama has taken specific steps to combat poverty and crime in minority communities. They include last years launch of My Brothers Keeper, a joint effort between government and businesses to educate and mentor young minority men, and this years creation of a task force designed to improve local police practices, including sensitivity training in the enforcement approach to minority neighborhoods.
Obama has also been on the front lines of the recent push to yank the Confederate flag from state government grounds a call he amplified during Fridays eulogy.
For many, black and white, that flag was a reminder of systemic oppression and racial subjugation, Obama said. We see that now.
There are signs that Obamas approach to the tragedy is resonating with the public. A CNN/ORC poll released Tuesday found that the presidents approval rating hit 50 percent for the first time since May of 2013 an uptick fueled in part by praise for his handling of race concerns.
However history ultimately judges the president on that issue, Cleaver suggested his greatest contribution might have been in showing the country that African-Americans are capable of reaching the highest levels of power and success.
Thats one of the things you cant actually measure, Cleaver said. Hes paved the way for progress in years to come that he wont personally enjoy.
~~~
If There Is a Race War or Battle(s) (Big Cities) Who Would Benefit The Most??? Is Black Racism As Mean Spirited As White Racism??? This Question Is Just For You: You Need Not Reply To It, Just Think For a Moment... If There Is a Black on White "Fight" Would You Join The Battle??? While You Think That One Over Take a Look Below...
Martial Law To Restore Order After The Out Brake of Black on White Race Wars... Remember Obama Doesn't Care What You Think, He Only Cares About How He Looks To History... Race War or Not, He Wins; He Either Is The Race Fuse, The Spark or He's The Peace Restorer...
~~~
One of Obama's Mentor:
Saul Alinskys 12 Rules for Radicals
Here is The Complete List From Alinsky.
* RULE 1: Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have. Power is derived from 2 main sources money and people. Have-Nots must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)
* RULE 2: Never go outside the expertise of your people. It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals dont address the real issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)
* RULE 3: Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)
* RULE 4: Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entitys very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)
* RULE 5: Ridicule is mans most potent weapon. There is no defense. Its irrational. Its infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)
* RULE 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. Theyll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. Theyre doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid un-fun activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)
* RULE 7: A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Dont become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)
* RULE 8: Keep the pressure on. Never let up. Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)
* RULE 9: The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)
* RULE 10: If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive. Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred managements wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)
* RULE 11: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Never let the enemy score points because youre caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If youre not part of the solution, youre part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)
* RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)
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Obama Sharpens His Message On Race
By Mike Lillis - July 1, 2015
President Obama is taking a more aggressive approach to the issue of race, repeatedly offering sharp commentary as he confronts Americas oldest, deepest divide.
Black lawmakers, Obamas strongest allies on Capitol Hill, have cheered the presidents new found willingness to address race head-on.
But they also see a nation thats still plagued by inequality, discrimination and, in some cases, overt racism first black president or none.
In terms of people feeling much better in regards to race no, thats not happened, and I dont know any thoughtful people who think it has, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.), former head of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC), said by phone. Whether he addresses the issues or not is not going to change the reality of the era.
Obama has repeatedly been confronted by the nations racial divide in his second term, but never so tragically as on June 17, when nine African-Americans were killed in a historic black church in South Carolina, allegedly by a white gunman who wanted to start a race war.
The violence provoked some of Obamas sharpest commentary as he delivered a eulogy on Friday for South Carolina state Sen. Clementa Pinckney, a friend of the presidents who was among the victims.
The presidents comments highlighted how his 2008 message of racial reconciliation has changed in the final stretch of his tenure in the Oval Office.
Maybe we now realize the way racial bias can infect us even when we dont realize it, so that were guarding against not just racial slurs but were also guarding against the subtle impulse to call Johnny back for a job interview but not Jamal, said Obama.
Cleaver emphasized that Obama has made strides in promoting African-Americans to positions of power in his administration, including Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson and Attorney General Loretta Lynch, the first black woman to hold the post. But the post-racial era many envisioned with Obamas ascent, he said, simply hasnt materialized.
Clearly we have seen advancements. Hes produced a number of firsts, Cleaver said. [But] is there a higher level of racial harmony? I dont think there has been. The evidence is too readily available.
Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) delivered a similar message, lamenting the cancer of entrenched racism that was thrust into the national spotlight following the Charleston church killings. The alleged shooter had reportedly posted online photos of himself waving the Confederate flag, as well as a manifesto with racist sentiments.
I consider this the most wonderful country in the entire world that has done such spectacular things to have people of color go from enslavement to the presidency, but this ... doesnt mean that we dont have a cancer that if we dont take care of it can actually disable us, Rangel said this week in an interview with radio host Rita Cosby.
Racial tensions, he said, have grown in the United States.
Such verdicts would certainly come as a disappointment to a president whose star launched on a keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, where he downplayed racial divisions in the name of national unity.
Theres not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; theres the United States of America, Obama, then an Illinois state senator, said at the time.
But time and again, events have pressured Obama to address what many see as a different reality. The fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin by a self-appointed neighborhood watchman in 2012, and the more recent police killings of unarmed black men in Baltimore, Long Island, N.Y., and Ferguson, Mo., have pushed the president to talk more openly about what it means to be black in America.
In December, Obama said he didnt expect his presidency to usher in a post-racial era.
If you look at the history of race in America, its usually not a single moment when suddenly everything gets solved, he told Fusion TV. Its a process.
A recent Gallup poll found that 13 percent of black respondents rank race relations among the nations top problems, a jump from 5 percent just a year earlier. By contrast, 4 percent of whites feel the same way, up from 1 percent in 2014.
Race is a tricky issue for the nations first black president, caught between navigating the political realities of a hyperpartisan Washington where Republicans control Congress and managing the expectations of African-Americans including many on Capitol Hill who have urged him to do more to further the status of blacks in society.
Rep. G.K. Butterfield (D-N.C.), the current head of the CBC, has repeatedly warned that black America is in a state of emergency, pointing to statistics that show African-Americans suffer disproportionately when it comes to employment, wealth, incarceration rates and a host of other measures.
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas), another prominent CBC member, put the blame squarely on the shoulders of Republicans for blocking Obamas legislative agenda, including efforts to hike the minimum wage, overhaul the criminal justice system and update the Voting Rights Act.
Hes had a social justice agenda, but you need to have a willing Congress, Jackson Lee said in a phone interview. I still have great hope for a post-racial society. It is not now.
On the policy front, Obama has taken specific steps to combat poverty and crime in minority communities. They include last years launch of My Brothers Keeper, a joint effort between government and businesses to educate and mentor young minority men, and this years creation of a task force designed to improve local police practices, including sensitivity training in the enforcement approach to minority neighborhoods.
Obama has also been on the front lines of the recent push to yank the Confederate flag from state government grounds a call he amplified during Fridays eulogy.
For many, black and white, that flag was a reminder of systemic oppression and racial subjugation, Obama said. We see that now.
There are signs that Obamas approach to the tragedy is resonating with the public. A CNN/ORC poll released Tuesday found that the presidents approval rating hit 50 percent for the first time since May of 2013 an uptick fueled in part by praise for his handling of race concerns.
However history ultimately judges the president on that issue, Cleaver suggested his greatest contribution might have been in showing the country that African-Americans are capable of reaching the highest levels of power and success.
Thats one of the things you cant actually measure, Cleaver said. Hes paved the way for progress in years to come that he wont personally enjoy.
~~~
If There Is a Race War or Battle(s) (Big Cities) Who Would Benefit The Most??? Is Black Racism As Mean Spirited As White Racism??? This Question Is Just For You: You Need Not Reply To It, Just Think For a Moment... If There Is a Black on White "Fight" Would You Join The Battle??? While You Think That One Over Take a Look Below...
Martial Law To Restore Order After The Out Brake of Black on White Race Wars... Remember Obama Doesn't Care What You Think, He Only Cares About How He Looks To History... Race War or Not, He Wins; He Either Is The Race Fuse, The Spark or He's The Peace Restorer...
~~~
One of Obama's Mentor:
Saul Alinskys 12 Rules for Radicals
Here is The Complete List From Alinsky.
* RULE 1: Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have. Power is derived from 2 main sources money and people. Have-Nots must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)
* RULE 2: Never go outside the expertise of your people. It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals dont address the real issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)
* RULE 3: Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)
* RULE 4: Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entitys very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)
* RULE 5: Ridicule is mans most potent weapon. There is no defense. Its irrational. Its infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)
* RULE 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. Theyll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. Theyre doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid un-fun activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)
* RULE 7: A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Dont become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)
* RULE 8: Keep the pressure on. Never let up. Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)
* RULE 9: The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)
* RULE 10: If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive. Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred managements wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)
* RULE 11: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Never let the enemy score points because youre caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If youre not part of the solution, youre part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)
* RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)
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Jul 1, 2015 14:00:01 #
bggamers
Loc: georgia
One of the biggest problems that I'v seen is president Obama and his wife causing racial tention. These two are the biggest racist I'v ever seen. I's really scarey
Jul 1, 2015 14:03:40 #
Jul 1, 2015 14:15:03 #
Geezer1948
Loc: Moving soon
Yes, Obama has loaded his staff, admiration, cabinet and court with a laudably diverse bunch of folks. And what does he or the country have to show for it in terms of accomplishments? Just like affirmative action, the focus has always been on the numbers...not on the results.
Jul 1, 2015 14:51:15 #
bggamers wrote:
One of the biggest problems that I'v seen is president Obama and his wife causing racial tention. These two are the biggest racist I'v ever seen. I's really scarey
yeah...any time black people don't just shut the phuck up about racism and just accept the status quo...racists get bothered...because it forces them to examine themselves......
Jul 1, 2015 15:14:36 #
KHH1 wrote:
yeah...any time black people don't just shut the phuck up about racism and just accept the status quo...racists get bothered...because it forces them to examine themselves......
Excellent execution of Rule #10 KHH1.
Jul 1, 2015 15:38:36 #
Geezer1948
Loc: Moving soon
Geezer1948 wrote:
Yes, Obama has loaded his staff, admiration, cabinet and court with a laudably diverse bunch of folks. And what does he or the country have to show for it in terms of accomplishments? Just like affirmative action, the focus has always been on the numbers...not on the results.
Sorry, that should have read " loaded his staff, administration, cabinet"
Jul 1, 2015 18:35:55 #
cSc61 wrote:
Excellent execution of Rule #10 KHH1.
The right tries numbers 3 & 5 but are abject failures at it......
Jul 1, 2015 19:45:38 #
KHH1 wrote:
The right tries numbers 3 & 5 but are abject failures at it......
Huh, I do believe that's the first time I've ever seen or heard someone accuse the right of following Alinsky's rules for radicals. There really is a first time for everything ...
Jul 1, 2015 20:44:26 #
cSc61 wrote:
Huh, I do believe that's the first time I've ever seen or heard someone accuse the right of following Alinsky's rules for radicals. There really is a first time for everything ...
The tactics are universal...it is apprent in OPP from the righties...ridicule and name call when made to look like dumbazzes.....create strawmen arguments on someone's behalf so you can derail the discussion by having them spend time explaining THEIR intended context of THEIR words....
Jul 1, 2015 21:23:28 #
KHH1 wrote:
The tactics are universal...it is apprent in OPP from the righties...ridicule and name call when made to look like dumbazzes.....create strawmen arguments on someone's behalf so you can derail the discussion by having them spend time explaining THEIR intended context of THEIR words....
I'm sure you do not believe for a second that it is only the right in OPP resorting to ridicule and name calling ... or that the left always represent themselves with temperance and tranquility. Only the truly delusional could see things that one-sided. Oh, and where I'm from, "dumbazzes" is considered derogatory ... normally used in some form of ridicule or name calling.
Jul 1, 2015 21:29:13 #
cSc61 wrote:
I'm sure you do not believe for a second that it is only the right in OPP resorting to ridicule and name calling ... or that the left always represent themselves with temperance and tranquility. Only the truly delusional could see things that one-sided. Oh, and where I'm from, "dumbazzes" is considered derogatory ... normally used in some form of ridicule or name calling.
I started it in response...when i posted the firt article they did not like and started that racist azz monkey, ghetto welfare shit...which is kool...just be able to take what you give...........
Jul 1, 2015 21:33:06 #
Yeah, those people are to be ignored usually. They bring little or no value add to the discourse.
Jul 1, 2015 21:43:06 #
cSc61 wrote:
Yeah, those people are to be ignored usually. They bring little or no value add to the discourse.
I hear you...i'll master that concept in due time.
Jul 1, 2015 21:54:52 #
Comment
Loc: California
cSc61 wrote:
I'm sure you do not believe for a second that it is only the right in OPP resorting to ridicule and name calling ... or that the left always represent themselves with temperance and tranquility. Only the truly delusional could see things that one-sided. Oh, and where I'm from, "dumbazzes" is considered derogatory ... normally used in some form of ridicule or name calling.
What? U didn't know that Negros burn down their own business in their neighborhoods and day don't rebuild or a decade. Yeah! Negros are the dumbest race on the planet. Lations are twice the numbers as Negros and they are never rioting and slashing and burning. Hispanics are the largest race by nearly double the Negro race. Ted Cruz has got it in the bag. He'll kick some black ass.
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