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Apr 29, 2013 18:01:30   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
TheChardo wrote:
Answering a question with a question is just evasion, smart guy. Taxes are taking away your freedom? Did that just start since Obama became president? Health care? How? because it might cost something? What about the millions who will be free of the pain and expense of not having care?


Can you apply that question to this one? What happens to the millions of people who have employer supplied health care that will lose it? Will they have to go to national exchanges, whatever that is, to get their insurance? Yep, I bet there will be at least as many of them as there are right now who will get the new state supplied care. Answer my questions, please.

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Apr 29, 2013 18:12:13   #
shooterofgunmen Loc: Colorado
 
oldroy wrote:
Can you apply that question to this one? What happens to the millions of people who have employer supplied health care that will lose it? Will they have to go to national exchanges, whatever that is, to get their insurance? Yep, I bet there will be at least as many of them as there are right now who will get the new state supplied care. Answer my questions, please.


Hey buddy..this nimrod is incapable of answering questions. Like most of his kind he loves word games (inane). Trying to pin this guy down is like trying to wipe snot from porcelain. It just gets slimy.

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Apr 29, 2013 18:20:25   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
shooterofgunmen wrote:
Hey buddy..this nimrod is incapable of answering questions. Like most of his kind he loves word games (inane). Trying to pin this guy down is like trying to wipe snot from porcelain. It just gets slimy.


Chardo seldom answers any of my questions and it has been that way for two months. He tried for a time and lost his butt so he gave up trying.

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Apr 29, 2013 18:23:05   #
shooterofgunmen Loc: Colorado
 
oldroy wrote:
Chardo seldom answers any of my questions and it has been that way for two months. He tried for a time and lost his butt so he gave up trying.


I believe the real question is, Does he have any ass? Not looking too good from here.

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Apr 29, 2013 19:13:51   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
shooterofgunmen wrote:
I am done with you. You would be an excellent argument for abortion.


So you're pro choice?

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Apr 29, 2013 19:16:16   #
shooterofgunmen Loc: Colorado
 
TheChardo wrote:
So you're pro choice?


I am pro terminating you with extreme prejudice. The last thing to go through your feeble mind could be your transmission, if you can afford a car.

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Apr 29, 2013 19:25:31   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
weneedrubio wrote:
Is easy to tell your lifestyle, it is in all of your comments. You have no job because you have no respect for jobs and the taxes they pay. You are an extremely shallow thinker exposing your lack of true education and/or introspection. All you do is disparage others exposing your lack of character. You liberals are not smart or hard to figure out, you hate and envy and that is obvious in your choice of issues to champion and the leaders you elect. Look in the mirror for a change. Tell me something, what has Obama been honest about?
Is easy to tell your lifestyle, it is in all of yo... (show quote)


The temerity that you display...to presume to know so much about me is astoundin

g! Lack of education? LOL You have no idea. As far as Obama goes...he has been very honest and very consistent in taking the position that the rich most contribute there fair share to fix the economy. Overall, he has been truthful more often than not: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/

Where as Mitch McConnell is a liar more often than not: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitch-mcconnell/

and Boehner doesn't do to well either: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/john-boehner/

Then you have crazy ass bachmann: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/rulings/pants-fire/

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Apr 29, 2013 19:34:40   #
weneedrubio
 
You cite Politifact as a source are you cereal? You are so stupid it is difficult to talk to you. Obama went to Harvard he has to know that the rich pay 40% of taxes, the top 10% pay 65% and the top 50% pay all of them. He has to know that economically you bottom 50% are getting free ride, how much more do you expect to take for sitting on your asses? He also has to know that no matter what you do for people like you who do nothing they will never improve unless they start living a positive lifestyle. How about Hillary who may well rival Obama in level of dishonesty and it got people killed.

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Apr 29, 2013 22:49:12   #
dukeofsc
 
Because regardless of what you think,
say or do,
the process in this climate of DC is toothless.
Has been since "bubba" and the blue dress,
what kind of nation do you think we have when
the "Most Powerful Man in the World"
(supposedly) can get sex with an intern
right in the white house and walk away
with a slap on the wrist from the
congress and the senate of our time,
no different than Rome in her day,
decadence and decay will be our downfall.

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Apr 30, 2013 08:39:03   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Since "WE THE PEOPLE" voted him back in for four more years and "we the people" voted more demorats into the senate which will never vote to impeach Obama, it's a no way will it ever happen... Remember, it's a government "for the people, by the people and of the people" So what you have is what you voted for....

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Apr 30, 2013 08:55:23   #
shooterofgunmen Loc: Colorado
 
cold iron wrote:
Since "WE THE PEOPLE" voted him back in for four more years and "we the people" voted more demorats into the senate which will never vote to impeach Obama, it's a no way will it ever happen... Remember, it's a government "for the people, by the people and of the people" So what you have is what you voted for....


Did not vote the Useless Wonder

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Apr 30, 2013 09:00:01   #
josren44
 
It's amazing that everyone but you sees this situation with this fraud as ok. Why don't you read the comments here and everywhere concerning this crisis and then get the hell out of our country. You are by far, with all your commie friends(liberals,democrates) the most useless excuses for human beings.Just read the commenys and you will probably shooy yourself. Changing you to the better is utterly impossibe and if I'm wrong, so are millions of others. Wake up boy and smell the roses.Oh, I forgot, you do smell the roses but to you they smell like garbage.We need people like you like we need another a--hole.....

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Apr 30, 2013 09:01:26   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
weneedrubio wrote:
You cite Politifact as a source are you cereal? {Cereal? You shouldn’t rely so much on spell check. Are you able to refute any of the politifact conclusions? Are you saying, for instance that Bachmann is not a pathological liar?}

You are so stupid it is difficult to talk to you. Obama went to Harvard he has to know that the rich pay 40% of taxes, the top 10% pay 65% and the top 50% pay all of them. He has to know that economically you bottom 50% are getting free ride, how much more do you expect to take for sitting on your asses? He also has to know that no matter what you do for people like you who do nothing they will never improve unless they start living a positive lifestyle. How about Hillary who may well rival Obama in level of dishonesty and it got people killed.

{First of all, if you want to have a productive discussion about taxes and income. Don’t start out by calling me stupid. GOT THAT? It does nothing for your credibility and makes it appear that you’re too insecure in your convictions, to threatened by the truth to be civil. Secondly, while you’re disparaging my intellect, you seem to be so ignorant as to not realize that the numbers presented above is only part of the story, the part that fits your narrative about how the rich are getting screwed. Either that or you’re being blatantly deceptive and DISHONEST- knowingly using propaganda to make a one sided case while leaving out pertinent facts. I have to wonder if you, and the others on here are that wealthy, or if you've just been duped into doing the bidding of the rich.

I will submit to you that the real story is 1) The percentage of income that is paid as taxes, including state and local taxes, by various income groups and 2) income and wealth disparity , which is growing. While you people are whining about socialism, we are experiencing a redistribution of wealth upward, creating a growing plutocracy in America.

Starting with taxes paid, you might want to read the Washington Post article to which I provided a link below. The figures that you provide above are based strictly on Federal taxes which by no means tell the whole story. In case your reading comprehension or attention span is to short to absorb the whole thing, here are excerpts:

“……. the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He’s paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who’s not getting a fair shake?”
“the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income. As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you’re mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that’s another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you’re omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest.”
“… most Americans paying between 25 percent and 30 percent of their income —“ See the graph!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/09/19/heres-why-the-47-percent-argument-is-an-abuse-of-tax-data/

May I also point out that during the Obama administration, the top marginal tax rate of 35% is the lowest since the Reagan years. Between WWII until the Reagan Presidency, the rates ranged from 70% to 91 %. Likewise, the capital gains tax rate of 15% for individuals is at its lowest since 1941. And while the capital gains tax on corporations is historically high at 35%, that has been the rate since the Clinton administration and was only slightly lower at 34% from Reagan’s second term through much of Bush 41’s time in office. It should also be noted that this tax was raised from 28% under His Holiness Reagan during his first term. Do you still want to whine about taxes?

And, the other part of the story is wealth and income disparity which is creating a plutocracy in America . Read it! http://inequality.org/

At this point I’m tempted to use your tactic to ask if you’re to stupid to understand this, but I won’t stoop to that level. I’ll ask you. Are you?}



You cite Politifact as a source are you cereal? {C... (show quote)

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Apr 30, 2013 09:02:55   #
shooterofgunmen Loc: Colorado
 
Wow! First of all I am NOT a liberal/progressic
josren44 wrote:
It's amazing that everyone but you sees this situation with this fraud as ok. Why don't you read the comments here and everywhere concerning this crisis and then get the hell out of our country. You are by far, with all your commie friends(liberals,democrates) the most useless excuses for human beings.Just read the commenys and you will probably shooy yourself. Changing you to the better is utterly impossibe and if I'm wrong, so are millions of others. Wake up boy and smell the roses.Oh, I forgot, you do smell the roses but to you they smell like garbage.We need people like you like we need another a--hole.....
It's amazing that everyone but you sees this situa... (show quote)


Wow! First I am not a liberal/democrat/progressive. True blue conservative. As far as being a communist should you call me that face to face I would cut your little tiny nuts off and make you eat them. Friends?

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Apr 30, 2013 09:05:41   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
josren44 wrote:
It's amazing that everyone but you sees this situation with this fraud as ok. Why don't you read the comments here and everywhere concerning this crisis and then get the hell out of our country. You are by far, with all your commie friends(liberals,democrates) the most useless excuses for human beings.Just read the commenys and you will probably shooy yourself. Changing you to the better is utterly impossibe and if I'm wrong, so are millions of others. Wake up boy and smell the roses.Oh, I forgot, you do smell the roses but to you they smell like garbage.We need people like you like we need another a--hole....

Who you talking to boy! And what are you talking about....do you have anything intelligible to say or are you just going to engage in psychotic rants?
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It's amazing that everyone but you sees this situa... (show quote)

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