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Jun 30, 2015 00:50:12   #
paschn
 
"Impeachable offense"? Certainly appears that way;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVKlZRWeDI4&feature=player_embedded

That being the case, would that set aside their treachery towards making a group of private corporations, (Pharmaceuticals), immune to civil liability, as they have done?

Further would that not negate their additional treachery of granting citizen's rights but no liability to corporations?

The "trick" will be getting our elected, (appointed?) legislative branch to go against the wishes of their "owners", or getting the "JMHO's" of the country to pull their heads from their asses... good luck with that one.

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Jun 30, 2015 00:59:24   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
paschn wrote:
"Impeachable offense"? Certainly appears that way;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVKlZRWeDI4&feature=player_embedded

That being the case, would that set aside their treachery towards making a group of private corporations, (Pharmaceuticals), immune to civil liability, as they have done?

Further would that not negate their additional treachery of granting citizen's rights but no liability to corporations?

The "trick" will be getting our elected, (appointed?) legislative branch to go against the wishes of their "owners", or getting the "JMHO's" of the country to pull their heads from their asses... good luck with that one.
"Impeachable offense"? Certainly appears... (show quote)


Neither scenario is at all likely. Unless and until, the American public can pool their resources and outbid the Koch bros. and Soros, et al - we'll continue to be subject to idiocy, lunacy and the other associated items related to public slavery.

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Jun 30, 2015 01:06:32   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
I agree with you, SCOTUS have violated the Constitution an legislating laws.

Obama has done the same thing, wWith his 68 and counting EO orders.

Start viewing actual wording of the of these secret laws being passed and bookmark this site.

a. Secret Presidential Executive Orders http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/ppd/index.html
b. Secret PPD Presidential Orders http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/psd/index.html
c. Secret PSD Presidential Orders http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/direct.htm

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Jun 30, 2015 01:39:49   #
astrolite
 
Doc110 wrote:
I agree with you, SCOTUS have violated the Constitution an legislating laws.

Obama has done the same thing, wWith his 68 and counting EO orders.

Start viewing actual wording of the of these secret laws being passed and bookmark this site.

a. Secret Presidential Executive Orders http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/ppd/index.html
b. Secret PPD Presidential Orders http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/psd/index.html
c. Secret PSD Presidential Orders http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/direct.htm


Thank you very much! I just did! Bookmark all of them!

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Jun 30, 2015 07:51:27   #
Ox
 
Part of this is Baloney, of course, starting with the fact that Sotomayor is NOT a Jew--she's Catholic.

I don't like the man either, but the fact is that those "secret" directives have been signed by every president, and most are simply re-authorizations of policies started by earlier presidents. They are NOT secret to anyone other than those who have no idea where to look.

It does no good to go postal over routine matters. Find something NEW to be alarmed about.

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Jun 30, 2015 08:01:38   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Ox wrote:
Part of this is Baloney, of course, starting with the fact that Sotomayor is NOT a Jew--she's Catholic.

I don't like the man either, but the fact is that those "secret" directives have been signed by every president, and most are simply re-authorizations of policies started by earlier presidents. They are NOT secret to anyone other than those who have no idea where to look.

It does no good to go postal over routine matters. Find something NEW to be alarmed about.


Haha! It's the election season again. There will be the inevitable crisis line up. You know, another Ebola scare, ISIS coming across the Canadian border, etc., etc.

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Jun 30, 2015 11:21:43   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
Just look at the website, executive orders are just one thing. Open your eyes.

PSD and PPD's are something different. It's not how many EO's one passes, It's the one EO that allows for total control,

Obama made the Patriot Act permeant without a vote from Congress in secret. Do you know know your personal American Rights and Freedoms are now ?

Where was the left when this happened under Obama, But under Bush they were screaming about their rights as Americans ?

Go figure ! Bunch of deniers !

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Jul 1, 2015 06:11:21   #
jelun
 
Ox wrote:
Part of this is Baloney, of course, starting with the fact that Sotomayor is NOT a Jew--she's Catholic.

I don't like the man either, but the fact is that those "secret" directives have been signed by every president, and most are simply re-authorizations of policies started by earlier presidents. They are NOT secret to anyone other than those who have no idea where to look.

It does no good to go postal over routine matters. Find something NEW to be alarmed about.




And then, just a small point, are these secret if everyone in the US can know about them?

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Jul 1, 2015 10:25:56   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
did you know about this site ? Then it was a secret.

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Jul 1, 2015 10:36:28   #
jelun
 
Doc110 wrote:
did you know about this site ? Then it was a secret.



Another word that is found in the dictionary.

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Jul 1, 2015 17:27:12   #
astrolite
 
jelun wrote:
Another word that is found in the dictionary.


The question is which dictionary? I know several secret sites and their passwords. If I tell or publish them I get to be a guest of uncle Sam for about 40 years. And Believe me, the NSA is watching every one of us! And reporting anything that can be used against us to .....guess who? Not us that's for sure! And you wonder why our congressmen vote AGAINST THE TAXPAYERS? AND the SCOTUS also votes AGAINST US?? I know you liberals are trying to forget Hitlery ordering the FBI to "dig up dirt" on the 500 most popular republicans! They did, and she refused to give them back! But you liberals want us to believe that the "people who pull the strings of Obama and congress" aren't doing it again? I know....you will deny it and demand that I provide links from YOUR sites! Alinksi #9 again! It only proves you are a disgusting liberal!

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Jul 1, 2015 18:38:29   #
jelun
 
astrolite wrote:
The question is which dictionary? I know several secret sites and their passwords. If I tell or publish them I get to be a guest of uncle Sam for about 40 years. And Believe me, the NSA is watching every one of us! And reporting anything that can be used against us to .....guess who? Not us that's for sure! And you wonder why our congressmen vote AGAINST THE TAXPAYERS? AND the SCOTUS also votes AGAINST US?? I know you liberals are trying to forget Hitlery ordering the FBI to "dig up dirt" on the 500 most popular republicans! They did, and she refused to give them back! But you liberals want us to believe that the "people who pull the strings of Obama and congress" aren't doing it again? I know....you will deny it and demand that I provide links from YOUR sites! Alinksi #9 again! It only proves you are a disgusting liberal!
The question is which dictionary? I know several ... (show quote)



You have one thing right, the drivel you post is totally unbelievable.
While I am not always as happy with the SCOTUS as I was last week I certainly don't believe they decide issues against my desires.
I guess I just have more respect for out gov't as flawed at it is.
BTW, it probably isn't the best idea to "impress" with wacky stuff like secret sites.

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Jul 1, 2015 18:38:29   #
jelun
 
[quote=astrolite]The question is which dictionary? I know several secret
duplicate.

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Jul 1, 2015 19:05:05   #
astrolite
 
jelun wrote:
You have one thing right, the drivel you post is totally unbelievable.
While I am not always as happy with the SCOTUS as I was last week I certainly don't believe they decide issues against my desires.
I guess I just have more respect for out gov't as flawed at it is.
BTW, it probably isn't the best idea to "impress" with wacky stuff like secret sites.


I assume you are for the TPP as well, you seem to prefer anything that takes away any of our freedoms! And like all liberals you adhere to Alinksi instead of admitting the truth (but in this case you did admit prefering anything that damages America) Why don't you move to Cuba....quick before communism collapses........when Obama quits supporting it! Wackey Stuff?? Did you hear that from your grandchildren? And do you really think that every user of the internet makes it's info available for you to read? The volume that is encrypted and password protected is probably greater than that for public consumption! Governments, corporations, terrorist groups, ect. I forgot to add......the controlled media : Ie: JournaList ? used by you communists to coordinate your talking points!

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Jul 1, 2015 19:28:50   #
jelun
 
astrolite wrote:
I assume you are for the TPP as well, you seem to prefer anything that takes away any of our freedoms! And like all liberals you adhere to Alinksi instead of admitting the truth (but in this case you did admit prefering anything that damages America) Why don't you move to Cuba....quick before communism collapses........when Obama quits supporting it! Wackey Stuff?? Did you hear that from your grandchildren? And do you really think that every user of the internet makes it's info available for you to read? The volume that is encrypted and password protected is probably greater than that for public consumption! Governments, corporations, terrorist groups, ect. I forgot to add......the controlled media : Ie: JournaList ? used by you communists to coordinate your talking points!
I assume you are for the TPP as well, you seem to... (show quote)



Yup, nutty as squirrel shit.

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