Doc110 to be clear, I owe you nothing!

When a man says he is going to do something, out of my own respect for myself, I keep my word Marcus. Unlike you Marcus, you can't keep your word. Yes, you owe you nothing! But Marcus you have no respect for others, Christians or any concept of religion or God.

Your only a loudmouth brash-glib, a hypocrite Marcus. Your a one-liner misfit, no better than Bad-bob's thumb's up smiley face that he posts constantly.

You had plenty of time to write me and reply on the OPP forum. But you blew me off and did not answer me, as you thoughtfully said and respectfully said you would.

No Marcus, you can't be trusted, nor is you word any good. Your response clearly shows that your a hypocrite. You say one thing and do the opposite thing, no my friend your a liberal self-centered hypocrite, through and through.

Are you the self appointed "God" of the OPP?

Marcus Marcus, Marcus, another Red-Herring fallacy again, another deflection from the real issue at hand, "The decline of failure of religion.

And your lack respect of my belief, my faith and my opinion of God. I would be a hypocrite, if I was the self-appointed messenger of God on the OPP website forum, nor do I claim to be. You gave me that title all by your self, because you can't handle a normal discussion of idea's in a public forum, hence your one-liner's, convoluted truth and attack mode mentality.

Marcus, I'm only a man responding to your wild assertions of an Atheist and am trying to move the forum discussion forward.

Marcus what's your problem ? Cant we have an opened minded thoughtful detailed discussion about the real reasons for "decline of failure of religion?

And the lack of tolerance that you and others respectfully share their belief in God ?

Obviously this strikes a different cord to your narrow-minded viewpoint, and that you can't respectfully respond. Didn't you say this earlier "I owe you nothing!"

Very sad Marcus and I had so much high regard and respect, for your thoughtful and courteous response, I'm still waiting Marcus ? My guess is I'll be waiting for a cold day in hell, am I right ?

I seriously doubt that you have read all those religious texts, but if you did bravo, good for you. Seems like a huge waste of time.

There you go again with the distraction and fallacies, your being judgmental again. What I do with my time is no importance to you what I read or write its not a waste of time, reading and understanding is wisdom and knowledge Marcus.

Marcus thats why you couldn't respond to the Atheist, and prove the existence of God Marcus. The Atheist beat you at your own game.

Marcus you can't change people you can only change your self. It's by actions not words that change others. Unfortunately you can't see the difference.

Marcus it's all in the Information and the facts presented, only you can reject or accept another viewpoint. Hmmm, Marcus are you questioning my sincerity and my honesty. Why is everything a one-liner attack response with you.

Please Marcus my words and writing style seriously questions your red herring fallacy again and again. And calling me out, as a lier, is just another fallacy in your distraction and comments. No offense taken

Obviously I struck a nerve with you. Are you beginning to doubt your own faith? Someone as supposedly as well read as you claim to be on religious matters must have doubts.

Marcus there you go again with the distractions and Red Herring fallacies. My faith and my belief and convictions in Jesus Christ is only stronger you lack of maturity and discontent is very apparent. You See Marcus It's you lack of belief and conviction makes you say this.

Time will tell, when you take your last breath on earth, and all your self-doubts and assumptions were correct, "A prudent man wouldn't make a loosing bet like this." But I'm not you. I've seen the gambit of many people's reaction and many family members and friends reactions while working in the hospital as they take their last breath.

Some people die, gracefully, and some hatefully, you have the freedom to choose in belief or non-belief. That is the question here Marcus.



Why must all your responses be so long winded? Marcus as you stated below, "There may have been times when I lacked sufficient eloquence to properly communicate,my ideal, or my thoughts. We can't all be as well read and eloquent as you."

Marcus Don't you like my thoughtful approach to your one-liner responses, does this disturb you ? Is this what we can expect from you and your writing style at the OPP website forum ?

At least now, our conversations and opinions are beginning to take form, your beginning to write amicably, and with some sincerity, is this is a flowering, a new beginning, which has emerged from your one tracked one-liners.

I can't believe it your now writing complete sentences and paragraphs ? Thank God, no pun intended here your beginning to articulate your creative thoughts.. and open up and have a real discussion. Only time can tell, but my perspective is that you'll probably continue to act like BadBob, and be a one-liner misfit, no better than Bad-bob's thumb's up smiley face that he posts constantly.

No Marcus I choose to discuss issues rationally and with logic and facts to voice an opinion, unlike your one-liner glib comments.

I thought we agreed to be more civil in our discourse? I am being civil, I'm using vocabulary and a conscious expressions in my opinions and thoughts, I've only articulated words and viewpoints with respect, Marcus.

You simply proved my point it is always the theist that loses their composure. What is with you and this constant fallacious non-stop Red Herring responses, Im going to call you out every time Marcus.

Oh, duh, you have a new word in your vocabulary now, Isn't that so condescending of you Marcus. And you want to be to be more civil in our discourse? What a self-centered true hypocrite you are Marcus.

What race do you think I am ? Your answer says a lot about your narrow minded, bigoted outlook on life. My thought woulds be puce, an off shade of pink. You said that you are negroid, am I correct but you could be mulatto, or Asian, Red Herring time again, a distraction Marcus. I really don't care what race you are, except moving on with your personal biasses and personal issues. Stay focused Marcus, stay on subject. If your offended by this word, look up the classification of Humans.

You have judged a book by its cover. Obviously someone with a name like Marcus Johnson must be black. Right? Marcus If you had a last name like Schnable, I could probably deduce that you were Jewish. But since you have a Roman first name and a English last name, I wouldn't have the faintest ides Marcus, Nor do I really care, Red-Herring fallacy time again Marcus, stay focused would you, please.

Atheism is simply lacking a belief in a god or gods. That is all it is. Marcus I sent you a detailed fact filled reply on Theism, Deism, Agnosticism Atheism, Communism, and your definition of Atheism is a little bit immature and rather simplistic approach Marcus. But if there a God, or isn't there a God, depends on our ability to disprove God. The burden of proof rests upon atheism to validate its position.

The question that seems most perplexing is, "why are we determined to explain away God?" Let's give credit where credit is due. It seems that if there is a God, then we would be His creatures, and therefore, accountable to Him.

Of course, this is not acceptable to a determined portion of mankind's intelligentsia. "Scholars" have a good control of the majority through arenas such as the public school system and the broadcast media.

No Marcus your definition of Atheism is a little bit immature and rather over simplistic, Marcus.

In your previous post you were asking about all of these abortions, and your preceived over moral decline of our society. So whats your point Marcus, you've given another fallacy and Red-Herring a mis-direction again, could you please ask a rational question, I've given you an example, and facts to back up my comments, so please Marcus back up your ideas and thoughts with examples and solid ideas.

Do you see and understand Marcus, that you only take a myopic viewpoint that is written, then you mis-direct the conversation, to your one-lined comments and opinions, and then you leave out the total context of the issue. You deflect your opinion, for the reasons for "Failure of Religion" in America and around the world and try to make me justify your question again.

Your argument and conjecture doesn't bear any weight or adds to your position or the OPP website article-thread Marcus.

Another Red Herring fallacy, why do you keep on doing this, are you that immature, un-knowledgeable and clueless to make complete sentences and paragraphs. Let me help you on this Marcus, you forgot to include:

Marcus for example the new promiscuity, the new relaxed sexual standards, and our fatherless and motherless parentheses society, the infanticide i.e. abortion society in America and around the world. Has lead to a decline of morals and "Failure of Religion" in America and around the world.

These examples in this American nation, the "Just-Do-It," society, "If it Feel's Good" society. Our new norm in society, of killing innocent babies, "If it Feel's Good," "Just-Do-It," society in the USA, since the early 70's this normalcy behavior has taken over America ? Apparently it has in introspection. Don't you agree ?

Do you realize the USA abortionists, Planned Parenthood groups at Life Dynamics, the "Margaret Sanger's group" from the 1920's, they the USA abortionists, have killed more than 55 million babies, by abortion in America?

Only 70 years ago, most main-line Protestant Christians churches would never have tolerated "Abortion's." Unfortunately, now these main-line Protestant Christians churches allow and condone the killing of innocent life ?

A innocent Baby, Marcus. Where is the baby's voice, to be heard in Abortions ? Ironically It's the "If it Feel's Good," "Just-Do-It," society voice, It's the "New Religion" the "New God," the new "Selfish-Ism's," found common place in America and throughout most of the world that kills innocent babies..

With the culpable media groups, and corporate advertising, the pundits, the conforming social groups, television, movies, music, computer and phone's. With our new information age, and political-liberalism group's, that tell us how we should live our lives, these are new "Selfish-Ism's," the new America's acceptable norm's and common practice's and found in the world.

Can you tell me why weren't these "Men and Women" using birth control, or or practiced safe sex ? Had these "Men and Women" had some ounce of responsibility, there wouldn't be any need for abortions.

That's if these Men and Women, boys and girls were responsible ? And for underaged children 18 year olds, "Where were there parents," and did many of these lackadaisical, moral parents teach their children morality for their actions ? Probably not, thats why children are lured into gangs, drugs and unacceptable behaviors and moral decline in America and the world.

I remember a better world 50 years ago, and this new Amoral unbelief is the new persona in America and around the World. This is what parents struggle with their children. Did I do enough for my child ? It's called responsibility and accountability Marcus.



Ask your, all powerful, all knowing, all loving God why all this is happening. Why does your God sit back and do nothing in the midst of this destructive behavior? I already know the answer. "God works in mysterious ways"
A better answer is there is no god.

Marcus please stop with the mis-direction and Red-Herring fallacies. This is where all good and knowing Liberal Atheists, voice their shallow opinions and make Christians defend their religious belief in God.

All good and knowing Liberal Atheists know the answer to this question, It's Mankind and Womankind causing destruction in America and around the world. So as a Liberal Atheist why are you allowing this destructive behavior ?

Man and Woman are responsible and accountable for the abortion and infanticide of 55 million Americans Marcus, not God. Didn't Jesus say on the Cross, "Please forgive them, for they know not what they do." Hoes man and women have the ability to show compassion for murdered babies.

No Marcus, all that the 'Margret Sanger's" the abortionists have done is made a money enterprising corporate machine and have not done one thing to help the institution of Marriage and the Family. Its all about viewpoint, perspective and morality in marriage and with families and the ability to be responsible for one's actions.

Another Red-Herring fallacy Marcus. Your all to easy to blame all the worlds woe's and destruction on God. Jesus Christ told his Christian-Jewish-former gentile followers, to "Love one another as I have Loved you." This is his greatest commandment, that he gave his Christian followers.

Marcus I only walk on water in the winter time. :))

By the way Marcus quit blaming God for all of mankind and womankind for the iniquities, war, violence, destruction and murder of humans, on God.

It is Men and Women who do this to each other, not God. What a amoral response you have. If we had more morality and more respect for one another and a better moral philosophy towards the betterment of humans and societies, then all theses babies would not have been murdered Marcus. Don't you agree ?

Marcus so your lack of belief in God and your Atheistic belief in the goodness of mankind and womenkind is so naive, and and you have no answer for why "Men and Women" have a lack of responsibility.

If they had, then there wouldn't be any need for abortions and unacceptable behaviors and moral decline in America and the world. Mankind and Womenkind are the barrier for moral behaviors.



Oh by the way I had every intention of responding to your private message, but then you started on me with your post last night so I figured you wanted to do this publicly.

Bull-Shit Marcus this is just another misdirection and an excuse for your actions, your lying to your self again. Marcus, you never had intention of responding to my private message, this is just a child's excuse. Im Still waiting for more than a week now. Marcus you blew me off, like you probably do to others.

What a weak fallacy to your personal word. Your word is your bond, Marcus, if not, then you are not accountable for your actions. Pretty pathetic shallow reply, Marcus, what a lame response. You can do better than this, your a pretty sad individual.

When a man says he is going to do something, out of you're own respect,you should keep your word, Marcus. Unlike you Marcus, you can't keep your word.

Yes, you owe you nothing! It's like as I expected as with most liberals, this is not my first foray, into another failed discussion on the OPP website forum. It's happened several times before, "human nature, can't change them. Actions speak louder than words, Marcus.

I have never, not once, not ever, lied on the OPP. Yes you have Marcus and I posted your comments and replays for all the OPP website to view.

There may have been times when I lacked sufficient eloquence to properly communicate, my ideal,or my thoughts. We can't all be as well read and eloquent as you.

Thank you for the wonderful comment,"well read and eloquent as you." Your comment is most probably directed as a sarcastic and condescending remark from you which is typical for you.

Marcus, come on, mis-direction again. There may have been times when I lacked sufficient eloquence to properly communicate, my ideal, or my thoughts. Are you blaming this lie on ignorance or on stupidity, or both Marcus.

Its called accountability for our thoughts and actions Marcus. Either you keep your word Marcus, or you don't keep your keep your word. There is no grey area here, It's all black and white here on the OPP Forum site, can't get around this Marcus.

That's why I take the time to write, I want no misinterpretation of my words or my expression of my words to publicly be misconstrued Marcus.

But quite honestly I simply do not care enough about your opinions of me to even attempt to fabricate a lie. You are not someone I would care to impress.

Another mis-direction Marcus and excuse for your opinions and actions Marcus. Honestly, please don't denigrate yourself, by saying this word "Honestly."

Marcus It's very apparent that your a self centered person that tows the Liberal, Atheistic mantra, and you have no respect for anybody that disagreed with your philosophy and worldly viewpoint perspective.

So far I can say that your are not an man, of your word, you also lack of respect and "in-tolerance" to Christians, and their Faith and belief In God, or any religious institution, or any religious belief in God for that matter. Your self-serving to only your viewpoints and inflated ego interests.

Men and Women have freedom of choice. This is their new choice that's being offered to them "Selfish-Ism's," This is also your choice as you proceed further in your comments on the OPP website.

"This is not "Religion's or God's Failure." It's Mankind and Womenkind, their failures.

Any and all statements I make are based on sound facts and reliable sources.
Marcus one-liners are not, sound facts and reliable sources. You can do better than this comment and in this discussion forum.

Another distraction, a Red-Herring fallacy Marcus. You only give one-liners and cryptic misconstrued comments to serve your inflatable egotistical hubris behavior and actions and you are not accountable for your statements.

In other words your OPP message article-blog thread, is never going to move the discussion forward, It's to move your self-centered egotistical personal agenda, Liberalistic, Atheistic and viewpoint. Thats what you voice on the OPP Website Forum, and I thought you had more Moxie than this in your writing style and in your opinions.

Have a good day Doc110

Doc110 is doing his job that he is supposed to do. He is already at the end of the rainbow. He only wants to help u, not himself. Hes ok, in his words, i see nothing wrong in him. For ur own sake, be careful of what u say. U will be judged by every word that comes from ur mouth. U cannot tell Christ that u didnt say it. God sent his Son Christ Jesus to read the hearts of all mankind.
A Christian's job is to preach the Gospel thru out the world to lead sinners to Christ Jesus and follow His will (New Testament). If u have a problem with that, then God help you.

Doc110 is doing his job that he is supposed to do. He is already at the end of the rainbow. He only wants to help u, not himself. Hes ok, in his words, i see nothing wrong in him. For ur own sake, be careful of what u say. U will be judged by every word that comes from ur mouth. U cannot tell Christ that u didnt say it. God sent his Son Christ Jesus to read the hearts of all mankind.
A Christian's job is to preach the Gospel thru out the world to lead sinners to Christ Jesus and follow His will (New Testament). If u have a problem with that, then God help you.

You without a doubt are the most long winded say nothing person I have ever encountered.

Call something a red herring, whenever you have never no real answer.

Why does your omnipotent, omnibenevolent, omniscient god allow the decline of religion in America?

If you choose to humans for this failure then you are also blaming God .

So God is failing humans.

This is not a RED HERRING! Nor is it a misdirection.
It is absolutely pertains to the topic.

My definition of Atheism is accurate. You just don't like it. Atheism : disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
Plain and simple.
Burden of proof rest on those making the assertion of the existence of something.
It's not possible to prove that something doesn't exist.

Speaking of misdirection, why all those references to Al Sharpton, and others like him?

You assumed because of my name that I was a black man. Which then afforded you the privilege of talking down to me. And assume I lack an education.

I have no respect for Christians like you Doc110.
period. As you have done nothing to warrant any respect.

You make claims that you have personally witnessed a decline in society over the last 50 years. As though it's a fact and must be true because you said so.
It's quite possible that you could be wrong and maybe the decline of religion is actually an indication of an improvement in society.

Speaking of misdirection how the heck does abortion have anything to do with a decline in religion in America? Try and stay on topic Doc.

If you choose to respond please try and keep it brief and to the point.
Your ramblings are actually torturous.

Have a good day Doc110