The only way this can ever happen is to start a new political party. Everyone is disenchanted with the republican party the Tea party is to needy always wanting money to send faxes and such.
We need the American party to stand up for the people that pay the bills these idiots are making in Washington! I pay taxes on 3 levels fed state & local the only thing I get in return is my ditch mowed twice a year by the county not bad for $37,000 a year in taxes. We pay the bills we should have a say in how the money is spent don't you think?
A new party would be great, but I would like to have a mandatory ethics class for all politicans. I believe a majority of them would flunk.
I appreciate the suggestion of a new party, but I happen to agree with some others that that is not a likely solution, for the exact reasons some have listed. We already have other parties, far superior to the two "Major Parties", but precious few have the fortitude to switch to one of them - ergo, I doubt they'd switch to a new, unknown entity.
What this nation desperately needs is a "do-over". Eliminate everything BUT the Bill of Rights , and start from there. As long as we have the full context of the US Constitution, we will have these same problems, over and over and over. People have evolved to the point that they know how to work the system. Between citizens who work the system for their personal benefit, and politicians who work the system for their personal benefit, the taxpayers are SCREWED, with no end in sight. I wish everyone would make a list of everything government does we could easily do without. I personally think we could come up with a decent plan to have sanity rule rather than the insanity that is so popular today in the "control" circles. Goodness, we could make history by instituting a form of existence that includes respect for each other, and individual freedoms we never dreamed of having - and never being robbed by our employees within government.
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My response is not that I don't kind of agree with you, but what I think has screwed up the works.
The Constitution does not need a do-over, if it was followed as it was intended to be, we would not be having these problems. The problem has been lawyers trying to find ways (unconstitutional or not) to thwart the Constitutional meanings. The SCOTUS is supposed to use the Constitution to define whether or not Congressional law is Constitutional, they were not supposed to redefine the meanings and words of the Constitution to make the laws they liked Constitutional when they were not.
American law is largely based upon precedent and if the precedent is unconstitutional then all law derived from it is unconstitutional too. That is what is wrong with our laws as written and used.
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What you say is so very true! But where I am coming from is that what has become screwed up, not because of the Constitution, but because of POLITICIANS and JUDGES, will certainly be done again and again and again by the same group of people for the same reasons. Why should we not put a stop to it for good, remove some of their powers or take the money out of their hands, etc.? There are any number of tweaks that could remove some of their audacity and hubris.
We cannot undo that which has been learned. We can continue repeating it and having to repair the tear, or we can alter the power our government has in attempt to prevent the next tear. I don't champion scrapping the Constitution. I want to make it less susceptible to attack from those who see it as an obstacle to their wishes.
I believe in solutions. I think that the assumption of electing honorable politicians who will abide by the constitution is naive at best, dangerous at worst. Can you imagine seeing Maxine Waters defeated because she may be corrupt? Nancy Pelosi? Harry Reid? Elijah Cummings? Chuck Schummer? Joe Biden? Barack Obama? Hillary Clinton? Barbara Boxer? I maintain they are elected BECAUSE THEY ARE WELL KNOWN FOR THEIR CORRUPTION, AND THAT'S WHAT THEIR CONSTITUENTS WANT. How do I, in Arizona, effect that? I've been fighting the left's corruption since 1962, and all it has done is GROW.
We need a do-over. We need to get the money out of the Congress' hands and we need to do it NOW.
I also work a 40 plus hour a week job I don't have time to pander or lobby the government to do their job! No I don't attend school board meetings any more because my kids are all grown and gone with their own lives now. When I did attend it fall on deaf ears anyway the school system is in decay as well as the rest of the system. Defending the broken and for lack of better word useless mess we have tells me you must be a conformist. It is never to late for a change in venue. If it is broke we need to fix it but it will take bold and brash moves from the people of this great nation!
I fear it is already to late.
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I also work a 40 plus hour a week job I don't have time to pander or lobby the government to do their job! No I don't attend school board meetings any more because my kids are all grown and gone with their own lives now. When I did attend it fall on deaf ears anyway the school system is in decay as well as the rest of the system. Defending the broken and for lack of better word useless mess we have tells me you must be a conformist. It is never to late for a change in venue. If it is broke we need to fix it but it will take bold and brash moves from the people of this great nation!
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I feel for you, my friend! Most productive people are in the same boat you are in - busy providing for families and paying bills and taxes. You should NOT have to spend precious time fighting the government because it refuses to do its job without being forced to. I don't believe the system can be "fixed" because everyone now knows some dirty truths. And those dirty truths will forever more be with us. We haven't the power to fix dirty truths, but we CAN make those dirty truths more difficult to use damaging us. And we cannot do it at the ballot box. The ballot box is terminally flawed, and I see NOTHING that is going to repair it. Frankly, I don't believe it CAN be repaired. Cheating is cheating, and certain segments of our population excels at cheating. There is ONE way to prevent cheating, but a free people would be stupid to allow it - that would be something similar to an embedded microchip for identity. I would prefer something more democratic that what we have or have had in the past.
However, we aren't at the right point at this time. What we need done at this time is to enforce some of our existing laws that should be invoked against the President and his Attorney General. Both are operating outside the legal boundaries of their jobs, and NO ONE IN AUTHORITY WILL ADDRESS THE PROBLEM. I have the sinking feeling that they are AFRAID to address them - fearful for their very lives or fearful for their political lives. When evil exists in every level of government, it simply cannot be controlled. It seems to me what must happen is that evil MUST BE CONQUERED AT ALL LEVELS.
I would enjoy an entire thread addressing what can actually be done to solve our problems. I don't have all the answers, but I don't believe for a minute that rearranging the deck chairs will make a bit of difference in the outcome.
No, it's not too late to get our nation back. We must become aware, alert, and active in political decision making at all levels. This requires effort on our part. We trusted too many treasonous politicians from both sides of the 'aisle' for too long.
Which two nations in the world are most hated? These United States and Israel. Why? Both were consecrated to the God of the Bible: Israel by Solomon at the dedication of the Temple, with national leadership in attendance and the U.S. by George Washington, the 1st Cabinet, the 1st Senate and Representatives at St. Paul's Chapel, N.Y., N.Y. in April of 1789. Time to return to the God that blessed and made this nation great.
That means WORK. Stand ready to defend your life, liberty, and property and those of your family and neighbors. Keep in-formed, stay in touch with those of like faith and persuasion,
there is safety in the multitude of counselors.
If someone needs to take a class in ethical behavior, it's already too late.
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